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txshopper73 · 12-09-2005, 05:59 AM

well, she's sitting in my lap right now giving me kisses. I called my boss at 6:50 and told her what happened. She said not to worry and stay home with my Gracie. God bless Mrs. Reyna!

Gracie has been whining wanting to get back to her puppies. She doesn't understand why she can't be in there with them.

On the way to the vet's office this morning, I started crying. Then Gracie was crying/whining. She started biting my fingers and that made me cry even more because I knew that she had to be in pain. Oh my, my poor baby...I could have lost her.

BamaFan121s · 12-09-2005, 06:06 AM

OMG Kimberley! I feel so bad for you and poor Gracie! I find myself watching Trixie for signs of that CONSTANTLY. But like you, I probably wouldn't have thought twice about it if she just hobbled slightly...I would have just thought she was stiff from just waking up. Thank God it was during the week and someone was up that early!

I am so glad she is dong better...that is SO odd to have happened with her being on all the right supplements

Please let us know if you find out anything else and to why she got this. Kisses to Gracie from me and Trixie...she will need lots of lovin this weekend (like she doesn't get it ALREADY

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schatzie · 12-09-2005, 06:09 AM

Gracie had a special angel that day....YOU.

I am relieved to hear that she is doing ok and back to give you kisses and lovin!

Gracie is a special girl and she's lucky to have a Mommy just like you!

cbrownfish · 12-09-2005, 06:26 AM

So sorry to what has happen to her. But glad that she is ok for now.
I will pray for her and hope that she will be fine.
(((((((((BIG HUGS)))))))) to her

cbrownfish · 12-09-2005, 06:28 AM

Do you know why this happen.
Is this something that could happen to my peyton??
As you do know that she is going to have babies any day now.
What should I do NEW after she has the puppies?
What is the different kind of food that I should feed her after the babies come??

Yorkielove123 · 12-09-2005, 06:51 AM

OMG!!!!!!!!!! Thank God everything turned out!!! How scary for you. Give her lots of kisses from us!!! Again, thank God she is fine!!!!!!!!!!!

centralnewyorki · 12-09-2005, 07:04 AM

Kimberley- thank goodness she is okay. I never would have thought a shot of calcium would work such wonders. What a wonderful boss you have- if only there were more like her out there! Have a good day with your baby and her babies!

Yorkieluv · 12-09-2005, 07:08 AM

Oh my, I am so sorry to hear about that episode with Gracie. I know you must have been terrified

You're a wonderful yorkie mommy though, and you knew what to do and acted quick. It's great that your hubby was up so early!
I'm so glad that she's going to be okay! That was quite a scare...

I'm so sorry to hear about Cricket...I know that must be so difficult for you, even 5 yrs later...May she rest in peace

Sherry Lynn · 12-09-2005, 07:08 AM

OMG Kim!! I bet your heart is still pounding!!

Since I'll never breed, I won't have to worry about a new mommy, but should the 'average bear' be worried about calcium intake? The only supplement (other than Derma Care) I use is Yogurt Drops, and I just checked - no calcium...

Give Gracie hugs and kisses for me. That poor sweet baby!

And a big cyber hug to you!!

yorkieusa · 12-09-2005, 07:22 AM

OMG Kim, I was so scared when I started reading that...

I couldn't imagine what had happened until you got to the point. You must feel completely drained right now after having a scare like that. Thank goodness your husband found her when he did and what a blessing you had the ol' doc to help you out. Thank God for him! Let us know how little Gracie is doing. I still have kind of a hollow feeling in the pit of my tummy after reading this. Gosh! How close that was.

SoCalyorkiLvr · 12-09-2005, 07:23 AM

How horrible and scary!

This was like Deja vu and reliving the stories Michelle told when Bitsy went through this. There were many other breeders who posted their stories about their experiences with eclampsia...some of whom were not so lucky. It is very serious and every breeder needs to watch for it closely and be prepared.

I agree with YorkieRose that calcium should be given as a matter of course after whelping.

I will also never breed, but for cbrownfish and rrosenberry who asked about the need for calcium for new mommies, please use this experience to educate yourselves and take the necessary steps NOW to be prepared in case it happens to you because it is all too common. None of us want to have another mommy yorkie suffer unnecessarily.

Kimberley, I am so sorry this happened to your Gracie and I hope she is fine from here on out.

txshopper73 · 12-09-2005, 08:09 AM

Well, from what I understand, a bitch can get it at any time. Like I said, last time, she had a wonderful whelping, wonderful milk, everything was perfect. This time, she had the runny tar poop and now eclampsia. Lord, she gave me such a scare!

She's doing just fine. Fed the babies again and went to the grocery store to get goat's milk for mama. She seems to like it. She is staying right by my side.

It's so pitiful, she stands by the x-pen, looks at her babies and cries. It breaks my heart everytime.

I've been instructed that I can let her go back in with them but at time intervals. She can no longer nest with them as she did in the past. Puppies this young have a tendency to free feed and that's probably why she got so drained.

Also, once they have it, they have a tendency to get it again but nothing is written in stone about that. Also, it is NOT hereditary from what I understand. Anyway, I'll keep everyone posted. Thank you for your kind words. We're gonna make it!

SoCalyorkiLvr · 12-09-2005, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbrownfish

Do you know why this happen.
Is this something that could happen to my peyton??
As you do know that she is going to have babies any day now.
What should I do NEW after she has the puppies?
What is the different kind of food that I should feed her after the babies come??

For breeders who want to learn more I found this link:http://www.thepetcenter.com/gen/ec.html

It is basic but it explains it well and gives suggestions for diet and what to fee to prevent it .

I fouhd this too:Prevention of eclampsia

Inappropriate calcium supplementation can predispose a bitch or queen to develop eclampsia.
Once a female has had milk fever during a lactation period, there is an excellent chance that it will repeat with future litters if preventative steps are not taken. Supplementation of dietary calcium does not seem to play a large role in preventing eclampsia. In fact, over-supplementation during pregnancy may actually cause it. All calcium supplements must be in the proper ratio with phosphorus. This ratio should be about 1:1 (i.e., 1 part calcium to 1 part phosphorus). In addition, it has been suggested that dog foods high in soybeans will be high in the plant product phytate. Phytates combine with calcium and can render the calcium unavailable to the bitch’s body and therefore make her more susceptible to eclampsia. To remedy the problem, feed diets low in soybean.

In conclusion, it is of great importance for breeders to be able to recognize the signs of eclampsia. If you feel your female is showing these signs, remove the kittens or pups to prevent further nursing and seek veterinary assistance at once.

I hope it helps.

rnnw62 · 12-09-2005, 08:20 AM

What a scary way to start the day....Ugh! That had to be a
horrible experience and I am glad that it turned out O.K.
Our thoughts will be with you and Gracie today...

StewiesMom · 12-09-2005, 08:25 AM

Kimberley - I'm so sorry to hear about what happened. Luckily, you acted fast and your vet is a very qualified man. I can't imagine what must have been going through your head

12-09-2005, 05:59 AM	#16
txshopper73 Donating YT 14K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 14,226 Blog Entries: 1	well, she's sitting in my lap right now giving me kisses. I called my boss at 6:50 and told her what happened. She said not to worry and stay home with my Gracie. God bless Mrs. Reyna! Gracie has been whining wanting to get back to her puppies. She doesn't understand why she can't be in there with them. On the way to the vet's office this morning, I started crying. Then Gracie was crying/whining. She started biting my fingers and that made me cry even more because I knew that she had to be in pain. Oh my, my poor baby...I could have lost her. __________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley

12-09-2005, 06:09 AM	#18
schatzie *Moderator Emeritus* Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tontitown Arkansas Posts: 4,909	Gracie had a special angel that day....YOU. I am relieved to hear that she is doing ok and back to give you kisses and lovin! Gracie is a special girl and she's lucky to have a Mommy just like you! __________________ ~~~~ Schatzie and Ransom ~~~~

12-09-2005, 06:51 AM	#21
Yorkielove123 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 882	OMG!!!!!!!!!! Thank God everything turned out!!! How scary for you. Give her lots of kisses from us!!! Again, thank God she is fine!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Libby, Bounce, Romeo, & Isabella Go colts!!!

12-09-2005, 07:04 AM	#22
centralnewyorki YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central NY state Posts: 1,741	Kimberley- thank goodness she is okay. I never would have thought a shot of calcium would work such wonders. What a wonderful boss you have- if only there were more like her out there! Have a good day with your baby and her babies! __________________ Susan & Olivia Visit Olivia's Dogster Page!

12-09-2005, 07:08 AM	#24
Sherry Lynn Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,437	OMG Kim!! I bet your heart is still pounding!! Since I'll never breed, I won't have to worry about a new mommy, but should the 'average bear' be worried about calcium intake? The only supplement (other than Derma Care) I use is Yogurt Drops, and I just checked - no calcium... Give Gracie hugs and kisses for me. That poor sweet baby! And a big cyber hug to you!! __________________ Sherry Lynn Dublin and Widget

12-09-2005, 06:06 AM	#17
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	OMG Kimberley! I feel so bad for you and poor Gracie! I find myself watching Trixie for signs of that CONSTANTLY. But like you, I probably wouldn't have thought twice about it if she just hobbled slightly...I would have just thought she was stiff from just waking up. Thank God it was during the week and someone was up that early! I am so glad she is dong better...that is SO odd to have happened with her being on all the right supplements Please let us know if you find out anything else and to why she got this. Kisses to Gracie from me and Trixie...she will need lots of lovin this weekend (like she doesn't get it ALREADY )

12-09-2005, 06:26 AM	#19
cbrownfish YT Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 338	So sorry to what has happen to her. But glad that she is ok for now. I will pray for her and hope that she will be fine. (((((((((BIG HUGS)))))))) to her

12-09-2005, 06:28 AM	#20
cbrownfish YT Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 338	Do you know why this happen. Is this something that could happen to my peyton?? As you do know that she is going to have babies any day now. What should I do NEW after she has the puppies? What is the different kind of food that I should feed her after the babies come??

12-09-2005, 07:08 AM	#23
Yorkieluv Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 7,178	Oh my, I am so sorry to hear about that episode with Gracie. I know you must have been terrified You're a wonderful yorkie mommy though, and you knew what to do and acted quick. It's great that your hubby was up so early! I'm so glad that she's going to be okay! That was quite a scare... I'm so sorry to hear about Cricket...I know that must be so difficult for you, even 5 yrs later...May she rest in peace

12-09-2005, 07:22 AM	#25
yorkieusa Crazy about Kacee! Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 21,173	OMG Kim, I was so scared when I started reading that... I couldn't imagine what had happened until you got to the point. You must feel completely drained right now after having a scare like that. Thank goodness your husband found her when he did and what a blessing you had the ol' doc to help you out. Thank God for him! Let us know how little Gracie is doing. I still have kind of a hollow feeling in the pit of my tummy after reading this. Gosh! How close that was. __________________ Karen Kacee Muffin 1991-2005 Rest in Peace My Little Angel

12-09-2005, 07:23 AM	#26
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	How horrible and scary! This was like Deja vu and reliving the stories Michelle told when Bitsy went through this. There were many other breeders who posted their stories about their experiences with eclampsia...some of whom were not so lucky. It is very serious and every breeder needs to watch for it closely and be prepared. I agree with YorkieRose that calcium should be given as a matter of course after whelping. I will also never breed, but for cbrownfish and rrosenberry who asked about the need for calcium for new mommies, please use this experience to educate yourselves and take the necessary steps NOW to be prepared in case it happens to you because it is all too common. None of us want to have another mommy yorkie suffer unnecessarily. Kimberley, I am so sorry this happened to your Gracie and I hope she is fine from here on out.

12-09-2005, 08:09 AM	#27
txshopper73 Donating YT 14K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 14,226 Blog Entries: 1	Well, from what I understand, a bitch can get it at any time. Like I said, last time, she had a wonderful whelping, wonderful milk, everything was perfect. This time, she had the runny tar poop and now eclampsia. Lord, she gave me such a scare! She's doing just fine. Fed the babies again and went to the grocery store to get goat's milk for mama. She seems to like it. She is staying right by my side. It's so pitiful, she stands by the x-pen, looks at her babies and cries. It breaks my heart everytime. I've been instructed that I can let her go back in with them but at time intervals. She can no longer nest with them as she did in the past. Puppies this young have a tendency to free feed and that's probably why she got so drained. Also, once they have it, they have a tendency to get it again but nothing is written in stone about that. Also, it is NOT hereditary from what I understand. Anyway, I'll keep everyone posted. Thank you for your kind words. We're gonna make it! __________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley

12-09-2005, 08:20 AM	#29
rnnw62 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,610	What a scary way to start the day....Ugh! That had to be a horrible experience and I am glad that it turned out O.K. Our thoughts will be with you and Gracie today... __________________ Shelly, Teddy, Toby,Hanne & Indigo

12-09-2005, 08:25 AM	#30
StewiesMom Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,306	Kimberley - I'm so sorry to hear about what happened. Luckily, you acted fast and your vet is a very qualified man. I can't imagine what must have been going through your head __________________ Kristy & Stewie