Snow Blue Yorkies?

[SnowBlueYorkies]

BREEDER: In the respected world of dog ownership, a breeder is someone who breeds only when they breed for the betterment of the breed and intend to keep one of the offspring. The primary difference between puppy raisers and breeders is “awareness of responsibility; responsibility to the breed, to their goals, to the dogs they have bred and to the dogs they hope to breed. They also have a never-ending responsibility to the people who have bought her dogs, to the people who are about to buy her dogs and to the public image--not only of the dogs they have been producing but of the breed itself.” A breeder is a creator; they work toward a goal of perfection in their mind’s eye. They do not allow themselves to be deterred by others’ views or by what is currently popular; they don't breed to fill a market of what will sell. A breeder takes the time to mentor, to share their philosophy and help those who ask over the rough spots. They instill within those who have purchased their puppies a sense of belonging, a pride in ownership. Breeders are there to answer questions, to encourage training, to teach critical assessment before breeding. They take responsibility for the dogs that they produces for the life of the dog, always willing to take them back if necessary. Breeders are not motivated by money or supplying a market. They do the necessary genetic background testing and assure the dogs they breed are free of genetic problems. Breeders are those who have paid their dues, studied, learned, been mentored and now are also mentoring. A breeder will have earned and continue to earn the right to be respected.
Thank you Lissitte, that describes me very well. I take great pride in all of my yorkies. Anyone who has one of my yorkies or has spoken to me personally knows this. I don't breed litter after litter after litter to try to find the perfect show puppy and toss the rest out because they didn't fit the bill. I am very selective so they are placed in just the right loving pet home. It just happens that mine are a different color, I love that about them. They are beautiful loving yorkies.

[HannahandMo]

Since it is ok to post slandering reviews about other breeders-I have posted mine and your pleasant association with him :-)

[Wylie's Mom]

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[BiewerYorkie]

The breeder I got Zachary from was targeted on some RipOff site by ONE person. There was a second one that did so also but reposted that she wished she could have taken back the first post since she over reacted from reading the first persons post and then discovered she was wrong.

Luckily, a bunch of us discovered what had been done and posted ourselves to the opposite of what had been said. Unfortunately, I am sure some damage was done that cannot repaired.

It's called "jealousy" and some people just can't stand to see someone do well and succeed.

Louise

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by SnowBlueYorkies

BREEDER: In the respected world of dog ownership, a breeder is someone who breeds only when they breed for the betterment of the breed and intend to keep one of the offspring. The primary difference between puppy raisers and breeders is “awareness of responsibility; responsibility to the breed, to their goals, to the dogs they have bred and to the dogs they hope to breed. They also have a never-ending responsibility to the people who have bought her dogs, to the people who are about to buy her dogs and to the public image--not only of the dogs they have been producing but of the breed itself.” A breeder is a creator; they work toward a goal of perfection in their mind’s eye. They do not allow themselves to be deterred by others’ views or by what is currently popular; they don't breed to fill a market of what will sell. A breeder takes the time to mentor, to share their philosophy and help those who ask over the rough spots. They instill within those who have purchased their puppies a sense of belonging, a pride in ownership. Breeders are there to answer questions, to encourage training, to teach critical assessment before breeding. They take responsibility for the dogs that they produces for the life of the dog, always willing to take them back if necessary. Breeders are not motivated by money or supplying a market. They do the necessary genetic background testing and assure the dogs they breed are free of genetic problems. Breeders are those who have paid their dues, studied, learned, been mentored and now are also mentoring. A breeder will have earned and continue to earn the right to be respected.
Thank you Lissitte, that describes me very well. I take great pride in all of my yorkies. Anyone who has one of my yorkies or has spoken to me personally knows this. I don't breed litter after litter after litter to try to find the perfect show puppy and toss the rest out because they didn't fit the bill. I am very selective so they are placed in just the right loving pet home. It just happens that mine are a different color, I love that about them. They are beautiful loving yorkies.

You said "I don't breed litter after litter after litter to try to find the perfect show puppy and toss the rest out because they didn't fit the bill. "
Check with any reputable show breeder, trust me on this one, no one tosses anything out in looking for a show puppy. Any puppies that are not quite what we want for show we look for loving caring homes being very careful they do not end up in the wrong place. Show breeders have sold a very nice show dog spay/neuter for pet to have it in a good pet home and didn't want to sell it to a show home which would have brought in way more money. As many reputable show breeders are actually more concerned about their puppy or dog money is NOT the bottom line.
As a show breeder with a full understanding of purebred dogs and the breed standard of the Yorkie, we strive to breed to that standard. Our purpose is never to breed to fill a pet market and we never try to breed wrong colours because that's what sells.
Chocolates are the result of a double recessive gene. Trying to breed for it is not in the best interest of the breed not only because of wrong colour but also health issues with double recessive genes. And that is just for starters.
There is never a good reason to purposely breed against the breed standard regardless of which purebred breed you are addressing.
There is still some very well founded doubts about parti colour yorkie and their purebred Yorkie status. Having seen one yesterday with the piebald colouring including on the skin,I have my doubts they were from purebred stock originally as the Yorkie does not carry piebald gene.
Arguments all over the place whether or not they are pure yorkies really should not come into it though because purebreds have breed standards. Changing a standard to suit a pet market? What the heck for? I am sure the original breeders taht worked so hard to have the Yorkie recognized as purebred and wrote the standard would be rolling in their graves now if they could know how irresponsibly some people have handled the breed and what they strived for and their considerable hard painstaking work and expense. Getting a breed recognized by a bona fide registry is not an easy road. Check with the AKC to find out what is involved. It does not happen overnight.

[chachi]

Wasnt she banned under her other ussername

[DBlain]

I happened to see this thread when searching the forums for something on a differnt topic. I am surprised no one mentioned her thread that I just saw in the picture forum. I know nothing about this gal but I was tempted to ask how the dog could come from champion lines because I did not think non standard colors would come from two standard color yorkies, but then I am not a breeder so I don't know these things so I decided to keep my mouth shut. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/my-...ful-paris.html

[DBlain]

I see Jodi just posted what I was thinking of posting.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by DBlain

I happened to see this thread when searching the forums for something on a differnt topic. I am surprised no one mentioned her thread that I just saw in the picture forum. I know nothing about this gal but I was tempted to ask how the dog could come from champion lines because I did not think non standard colors would come from two standard color yorkies, but then I am not a breeder so I don't know these things so I decided to keep my mouth shut. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/my-...ful-paris.html

all of the non standard colors originated from show lines due to in-breeding. In the, past those puppies were always hidden and never talked about. It is only recently that breeders have decided that the variety of colors should be bred. After all they are part of the make up of the yorkshire terrier.

it's just that a few narrow minded people, who are hung up on the Standard that was set by the YTCA to be used for judging, believe that all yorkies have to be bred to that standard. People!!! lighten up, that standard is to be used for judging, the other colors are naturally occurring and there is nothing wrong with them. Get over yourselves already. The YTCA did not create the yorkie, it just set a standard to be used by judges in the show ring.

[SnowBlueYorkies]

FYI Paris did come from 2 traditional color yorkies. She has been DNA'd.

[GreenwoodBiewer]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

all of the non standard colors originated from show lines due to in-breeding. In the, past those puppies were always hidden and never talked about. It is only recently that breeders have decided that the variety of colors should be bred. After all they are part of the make up of the yorkshire terrier.

it's just that a few narrow minded people, who are hung up on the Standard that was set by the YTCA to be used for judging, believe that all yorkies have to be bred to that standard. People!!! lighten up, that standard is to be used for judging, the other colors are naturally occurring and there is nothing wrong with them. Get over yourselves already. The YTCA did not create the yorkie, it just set a standard to be used by judges in the show ring.

- Diana

[SnowBlueYorkies]

Its funny how others on here post their colored yorkies but no one says a thing to them. They just always want to single me out. I am certainly not the only person who has other colors so not sure why they always want to bring me up to make nasty comments about. All one has to do is type in Parti yorkie breeder in google search to see how many breeders there are, hundreds. All I can think is someone must be jealous to keep singling me out. My yorkies are not kennel dogs they are house dogs and I have 8 yorkies that are very very well cared of.. If some of you would take the time to talk to me personally and get to know me you understand what I am about.

[SnowBlueYorkies]

BTW I was NEVER banned from YT.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by DBlain

I see Jodi just posted what I was thinking of posting.

Yes, I did post to the other thread because it's the TRUTH! Ask any reputable show breeder and they will back up my statements. Furthermore, if a color fault were to show up in a show dog lines they would not sell a dog with color faults to be bred. Reputable breeders hold their show lines very closely and do not let any "johnny come lately" breed for profits. So whomever this breeder is that sold not one but two dogs with a color fault would not be considered "reputable" by any stretch of the imagination.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Yes, I did post to the other thread because it's the TRUTH! Ask any reputable show breeder and they will back up my statements. Furthermore, if a color fault here to show up in a reputable show dog they would not sell a dog with color faults to be bred. Reputable breeders hold their show lines very closely and do not let any "johnny come lately" breed for profits. So whomever this breeder is that sold not one but two dogs with a color fault would not be considered "reputable" my any stretch of the imagination.

And just who is it that has decided what a reputable breeder will and will not do? where is this rule written? Or is this perhaps "just your opinion"?

I believe, that the two dogs that were used to create this chocolate, were both traditionals.