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09-16-2011, 02:30 PM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: rochester, new york, usa
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| First time birth looking for local EXPERIENCED help hi, im a first time breeder. i first did alot of research, went by all the "breed standard" and vet guidlines with my 2 pet yorkies (i have 3 total but my tiny girl is spayed) i love them to death and am very worried about the entire whelping process. what are any "signs of distress" to look for and when should i rush to the vet, when to hold off? my darling is not in labor YET and pregnancy will actually be confirmed tomorrow by ultrasound (at 30 days we think) but what im really looking for is help. a local experienced breeder to me would be great to have around once my darling does go into labor but all advice is also greatly appreciated also. i would consider paying a breeder to come over and help me through it when it does begin. i live in the Rochester ny area. thanks to all who can offer any helpful advice |
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09-16-2011, 04:04 PM | #2 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kansas City, MO
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| go on YTCA for some amazing breeders in your area and hopefully someone can help you. for others reading this it's not a wise decision to go ahead with breeding unless you have previously had a mentor to learn and train under. asking for help is a good thing when you realize you are in over your head, but it would have been much better had you had a mentor all along who could teach you and show you the ways before you tried it all on your own. wishing you the best of luck with the whelp and hoping you don't have any complications and that you find a mentor right away to help in the whelping since it's something you have never done before. prayers for your bitch that she makes it through this. www.ytca.org |
09-16-2011, 04:30 PM | #3 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: upstate ny
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| I wish I could help but I think I'm a bit too far away! Good luck and I hope things go well for you! |
09-16-2011, 09:14 PM | #4 | |
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Take her to the vet at the signs of labor. Pay your vet and very well I might add to do the labor for you. Get the vet to aid in whelping or board your dog there. Have your dog spayed prior to bringing her home. Get the vet and or their preference in finding homes. Be sure to have all the pups spayed and neutered after they receive their shots and ensure no more pups are produced. Following breed standards includes responsible breeding as in breeding for a goal like your next show potential and only creating and selling the pups that aren't show quality by birth definition and conformity. Wat titles does your dog hold the Dam ad what about the Sire: AKC registered on open registration in your name? Chic and OFA certified? Furthermore what testing did you do on your female prior to birth was it your male that impregnated was he genetically tested as well? That's all the help I can offer you should have assisted in several whelping and deliveries prior to considering throwing two dogs together and hoping t follow any standard otherwise it's considered BYB (back yard breeding). Also any worth while vet would have already prepared you for such and would have asked you to bring in your female when realizing your inexperience... Consider payment-?-pay up and be VERY thankful if you find someone IMHO you are asking for someone to run into a burning building you set on fire. As you are saying, I hear: I planned a demolition burn then I forgot to get out my most precious belongings, can you go get them for me now that I poured gasoline all over and tossed a match in.
__________________ Shan & 8 kids now! Last edited by concretegurl; 09-16-2011 at 09:17 PM. | |
09-17-2011, 04:48 AM | #5 |
Donating YT 10K Club Member | Good sites to read..... Whelping Puppies, Breeding Dogs Dog Breeding and Canine Reproduction by Debbie Jensen. Dog Breeding and Whelping guide for dog breeders. I'd highly encourage you to purchase Myra Harris Savant's book - Puppy Intensive Care. It's loaded with good information...from the supplies you need for whelping all the way through to birth and beyond. This can be purchased from Amazon usually less than Myra's site. She also has seminars. There is one in PA on the 23rd....shouldn't be too far from you. Seminar Schedule Good luck.
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09-17-2011, 05:14 AM | #6 | |
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Very good advice...
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09-17-2011, 08:22 AM | #7 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: rochester, new york, usa
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| thank you all for the NICE replies. i will read up on all these articles and will buy that book. i already have about 10 books i have purchased and read through the past few years on breeding whelping and care but any additional help or info is always good. i actually found out today that the mating did not work and i will be trying again at her next heat. until then i have found a very nice breeder to speak with around my area and possibly watch and assist with their births so i can get more knowledge. i just wanted to say that the other negative replies on here are a bit sad. i am trying to do this the correct way and yes my dogs have been had a few genetic tests that the vet has recommended before hand, and i have been given the ok. How did all of you start out breeding?? ARE WE ALL NOT BEGINNERS AT SOME POINT??? its better to help and educate with kindness rather then with nasty comments. THANK YOU AGAIN TO ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE POSITIVELY REPLIED IM VERY GREATFUL FOR ALL YOUR HELP!! |
09-17-2011, 10:50 AM | #8 |
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| I'm guessing I posted the negative reply: sorry you feel wanting the best for the welfare of dogs is negative. I'm not a breeder: I don't have breeding quality dogs, that have been certified as such, I didn't spend years working under an experienced reputable breeder, I don't show, I don't have a kennel club, network of fellow breeders for any emergency support etc: therefore I don't toss my dogs together after reading (which I have) and call it getting started. Seems you now have the opportunity to do things correctly I hope you seize it.
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09-17-2011, 03:13 PM | #9 | ||
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Sigh. For the life of me, I will never understand why anyone thinks that reading a few books or articles and asking questions online constitutes preparing to breed. For some reason, this seems to be an acceptable substitute for spending time with a responsible breeder as an apprentice before you even think about trying it on your own. At the risk of being chastised again by the polite police, I think it's really pathetic that we always seem to have a cheering squad on her for irresponsible breeding practices who use the line "you have to start somewhere" to defend breeding a dog and then coming online to look for a mentor. Or the line "if we don't tell them the right way to do it here, where else are they going to learn it?" Ummm, how about referring them to people who actually DO know what they are doing? I think it's incredibly selfish to use a dog as a guinea pig. If it's being "mean" to say that, well then so be it. I'd rather be mean than particpate in the abuse of an animal. BTW, I just finished reading a great article about plastic surgery. I watched a few you-tube videos on it, too. I think I'm ready to throw out a shingle and do face lifts. Any volunteers to be my first test subject, erm...I mean patient? I'd really appreciate it if someone could walk me through my first one online, too.
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09-17-2011, 04:13 PM | #10 |
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| LOL "polite police" Sorry Ann I'm imagining you with a Bobby hat & billy club: waving it at me... That's just it right-start somewhere...I believe it should be an internship...under a reputable AKC breeder whom shows assisting with shows, grooming, training, health, obedience, and among many other things breeding/whelping. Alright off my peta-stool and back to changing diaper & de-matting. Rhett-Momma, I got a Dermawand you can zap me with...... The irony in some things: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...staste-ny.html Internet fix all DIY
__________________ Shan & 8 kids now! Last edited by concretegurl; 09-17-2011 at 04:17 PM. |
09-17-2011, 05:01 PM | #11 |
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| rochester I am in a suburb of Rochester, Penfield..you can PM me if I can be of help. My female, Tea', just had a litter four days ago Debbie Tea' + 5 Katie Tasha |
09-17-2011, 07:26 PM | #12 | |
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ps...Casey would prefer just some tape across her mouth instead of anesthesia
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09-17-2011, 07:48 PM | #13 |
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| No me first, pick me, pick me, my Dermawand came with a DVD instructional video got a strip of leather to bite down on ready too
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09-17-2011, 11:55 PM | #14 | |
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09-18-2011, 12:48 AM | #15 | |
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