The liver is frozen... Do i thaw it before boiling?

No need to thaw before thawing as far as I know, I always boil it before thawing without problem. Praying she recovers.

I will keep the little one in my prayers.

Just saw the updates to this thread- hadn't realized momma had delivered! I am praying for the little girl. I certainly hope the breeder is responsible for all these vet fees and it makes her re-consider. Good Luck to you- I know how much you care for these little ones and I really hope this little girl pulls through.

Oh my gosh, I just got on here and started reading the updates. I feel like I am on the edge of my chair. I have all fingers, toes and eyes crossed. I have prayers going strong. I do hope all these babies are healthy soon.
I can't wait to hear more.

I have to second this :thumbup: Keeping this little one in my thoughts. :(

We lost her. :( We got to love her for 6 hours...she was a little fighter. I am so sad, but we have 2 healthy boys and 2 healthy girls. They are all nursing very well. I re-weighed them, and both boys are 4 oz and the girls are 4.5. The little one was 3 oz. Here are some pics of the babies. The last one is the little angel, about an hour before she passed. Mama is doing great, and drank some more whelping pudding and a scrambled egg. She did great for her first litter....she was just as calm and laid back during labor as she has been. Shes such a sweet little girl. The owner said after all of this, she thinks she is going to quit breeding. Maybe this was an eye opener. Thank you for all of your prayers.

I am saddened about the little Angel girl but am thrilled to hear about the healthy others. Congratulations on doing a great job! Hopefully this will be the last litter for this breeder.

So sorry to hear about this little girl.

I am so sorry about the littlest angel. She won't have to fight any longer. I am very happy to see the other 4 are going to be fine. Way to go lil' mommy!
Congratulations on a job well done!!!

Very cute pics :)

I'm so sorry you lost the little girl. Hopefully, this breeder will listen to you.

The little one was just not meant to be.....she didn't pass because of anything you did...you gave her every chance.

Drinking whelping pudding????? My whelping pudding should be set to chill to set and spooned out. Now there is the Goat's Milk recipe that I give immediately after a whelp or inbetween pups being whelped....

Your little girl has 4 pups...you will have to provide with PetCal tablets. Also, keep Oral Cal Plus on hand for her as there is the possibility of eclampsia....make sure she's eating a minimum of 4 meals a day.

It just dawned on me I havent told the rest of the story...I have talked to Yorkierose, (ps. thank you so much for talknig me through)....Originally, the first sac appeared. I called the owner and she came right over. She was pushing and having no luck....suddenly, a second sac appeared. I knew exactly what was happeing, but the breeder DIDNT! I started trying to push the sac back up, but the mama was bearing down hard, and the second pushed through beside the first. The vet is guessing this is when her cord may have gotten strained and the intestines leaked out...not sure, but just a guess. I have frantically been calling my vets cell phone number during all of this and kept getting his voicemail. Meanwhile, the first sac is still there and not budging. I finally got ahold of another vet who agree to meet me with her. I was heading out the door, and the mama starting really pushing again...by this time, nearly 2 hours have passed since it first appeared..so, I just started pulling gently as she pushed...and the baby came out. I was sure she would be dead, after being stuck for so long, but I quickly cleaned her up and she went to crying. My first tears of the morning. The other 3 came fairly quickly after with no trouble. We could have lost both girls and the mama. And from there is where I went ahead to the vet, and then to the next vet who did the babies surgery.

For anyone who is considering breeding your babies, please. please dont! Leave this to the experts!! Too many things can go wrong...just as they did. I feel so fortunate we have four healty babies and a momma to nurse them. I will encourage everyone and anyone to NEVER breed!

ps. My vet still hasnt called me back...arrrgggg. That is sooo frustrating too, becaue I just talked with him and he knew it was most likely going to be this weekend. I dont know if he had answered the first time though, that things would have been different. It all happened so fast. I feel like maybe I failed, but at the same time, had I not been with the mama, I dont think her owner would have known what to do at all.

Sorry...yes, I gave her your goats milk, distilled water, and karo liquid recipe. I have made the actual one with the yogurt and geletin and it is setting.

Job well done. Like I have said before this little momma is so lucky to have you.
You did everything you could have for the little girl. And sounds like you have got the results you wanted with the owner. No more babies. Try to relax now :)

For mom I usually add an egg yolk.....on the Goats Milk. Without the egg yolk for puppy supplementing and for pups at room temperature. Hopefully you won't have to supplement the pups and mom will take care of it all.

Breeding is very difficult. And as one becomes more experienced, a breeder gets more reluctant to breed because of those possible emergencies that may affect the dam and the pups.

This breed can bring you to your knees.....breeding is not for the faint at heart.

So far, they are all nursing and have full tummys. She is being a very good mother. Im more concerned for her at this point vs the pups because the pups are doing so well. I just poured some goatmilk/water/kayro over some food and she ate it all. The "pudding" is still setting in the fridge..I wish I would have asked you what flavor of geletin was best! Too late now!

Oh, I just caught up some on your thread and the loss of that little girl is terrible - the reason I can't raise puppies - could not take it - any of it. Thank the Lord for the pro's. Thank goodness the mommie dog made it and her other pups are well. I sure hope the mommie dog can go to a real home! That would be spectacular for her. She's a little heroine - could be somebody's best friend.

Sorry that the little girl didn't make it:(. Like Mardelin said the poor little one was not meant to be. Glad the rest of the litter is doing well. The pictures are adorable, you did a great job with everyone.

No, No, No.

You have gone above and beyond for dogs that are not even yours, do not blame yourself. Be very proud of the 4 healthy pups and a healthy mom.

non flavored geletin....

You're right keep the dam healthy, she'll take care of the pups.

Uh oh...is it ok if it is flavored? I did read the package and it doesn't contain xylotin (may have misspelled that one).... But I haven't given her any yet, so I can re-make it....

Thank you. My daughter was heartbroken we lost the one. She was born with gastreoschesis (intestines on the outside of her body)...she told me the baby was just like her.... And would not stop praying for the baby. Made it that much worse when she didn't make it....

Ps... How is your baby? Is she better?

Aww- I am so sorry to hear that- I can imagine that is really rough on her. Is she the same daughter that you are going to keep one of the little girls for? If so hopefully that will cheer her up- if she has a lot of responsibility for the pup it will hopefully take most of her attention.

She is doing 100% better, like nothing was ever wrong- thanks for asking :)

Congrats on all of your babies you did great don't blame yourself for the little one lost..it happens to the best sometimes there is just nothing you can do

I am so proud that you was taking care of this little mom

Awww Kendra, I'm just now seeing this and am so sorry you lost the little girl but so happy everyone else is doing great . I knew you could do a good job and were ready for anything. I am very grateful for ALL who were there for Kendra and want to say THANK YOU ALL ! you are ANGELS.:)

Yes, it is the same daughter (my only). I think she just felt a bond with her! But she is still very excited about one of the other 2 girls!
She actually just joined YT to start reading! Lol

I'm so glad your baby is ok.... That was scary!