Nutri Cal

[bjh]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Barb,

My repro vet informed me that NutriDrops work as Oxytocin......Absorbs via the gums much faster....I always rub a drop or two into the pups gums prior to putting them with mom.

NutriCal has a high content of sugar and giving it a whelping mother can cause her to crash....

Oral Cal Plus does not make them vomit as Calsorb does.....the malt flavor making it more palatable, although the same.....well the price on Oral Cal Plus is a bit more expensive.

Doesn't the whelping pudding have a lot of sugar? That was my concern about giving moms the whelping pudding. I give such a small about of Nutri-cal that I am not concerned about a crash. I don't recommend people giving Nutri-cal on a daily basis, just for emergencies only. I am always open to trying something new so I do appreciate your input and I will definitely be trying the Cal-sorb plus.

[dawn27]

Ok just so that I have it right:

Nutri Cal can be given to a puppy but not to the whelping mother.
(It is used as a pick me up of sorts?)

But

Nutri Cal Drops can be given to the mother during whelping but not to a puppy. (Helps mother if she need a pick me up?) if whelping has stalled or she has no energy?

Are they not the same thing. just in a different form? One being drops and the other paiste.

[bjh]

Originally Posted by dawn27

Ok just so that I have it right:

Nutri Cal can be given to a puppy but not to the whelping mother.
(It is used as a pick me up of sorts?)

But

Nutri Cal Drops can be given to the mother during whelping but not to a puppy. (Helps mother if she need a pick me up?) if whelping has stalled or she has no energy?

Are they not the same thing. just in a different form? One being drops and the other paiste.

Nutri-cal and Nutri-drops are different. Nutri-drops can be given to mom and pups. Nutri-drops are very potent so you do not want to give more than a drop to a new born pup. Nutri-cal is a paste and you would never give it to a new born pup.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by dawn27

Ok just so that I have it right:

Nutri Cal can be given to a puppy but not to the whelping mother.
(It is used as a pick me up of sorts?)

But

Nutri Cal Drops can be given to the mother during whelping but not to a puppy. (Helps mother if she need a pick me up?) if whelping has stalled or she has no energy?

Are they not the same thing. just in a different form? One being drops and the other paiste.

Ok! Let's do this again.

NutriCal can be given to a pup, but not a newborn pup. It's used with much discretion. To be kept on hand should a pup have a hyperglycemic attack.

NutriDrops can be given to a mother during a whelp should she lag behind, it works much as Oxcytocin.....A couple of drops can be rubbed into a pups gums after the whelp, just before it is put to mom for nursing.

No, they are a bit different, one having a more higher sugar content (NutriCal) than the other......NutriDrops absorb almost instantly and does not have to go through the digestive track to work.

The one thing you always want to keep on hand is Oral Cal Plus for a nursing mom in case of eclamptic episode.

Breeders' Edge&#174 Oral Cal Plus - Revival Animal Health
To keep eclampsia at bay, so it never comes at all… forget everything about giving tums, cottage cheese, cheese, icecream.. etc. It’s useless. The body needs the calcium to be delivered with the correct ratio of Vit D and Phosphorus or it doesn’t absorb it, it’s useless. Pet Cal has this correct ratio. Another thing that has it is, believe it or not.. a scrambled whole egg! Of course everyone knows not to start calcium until the litter is whelped.. no giving it to PG bitches… I do give some calsorb during whelping If things slow down on a larger litter, but never before whelping. Make it a general practice to scramble your bitch an egg every day, and depending on weight, give ½ to a whole pet tab per day. I gave it to a 8 lb bitch ½ in the morning ½ at night…this is the “daily dose” for about a 20 lb dog who was NOT nursing a litter…so just fine for ½ the size, but nursing a litter. I would grind up the pet tab in the food processor and put the powder in the egg when I scrambled it.

Also, check your dog food for Soybeans, soy protein, or anything related to soy in any way. For SOME reason that is not completely understood by me (many menopause supplements contain soy, or are soy based, so this seems to be a contradiction).. soy protein can interfere with the absorption of calcium in dogs. If your food has soy of any sort, change to a food that does not for the duration of the weaning of the litter.

[yorkietweetie]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Ok! Let's do this again.

NutriCal can be given to a pup, but not a newborn pup. It's used with much discretion. To be kept on hand should a pup have a hyperglycemic attack.

NutriDrops can be given to a mother during a whelp should she lag behind, it works much as Oxcytocin.....A couple of drops can be rubbed into a pups gums after the whelp, just before it is put to mom for nursing.

No, they are a bit different, one having a more higher sugar content (NutriCal) than the other......NutriDrops absorb almost instantly and does not have to go through the digestive track to work.

The one thing you always want to keep on hand is Oral Cal Plus for a nursing mom in case of eclamptic episode.

Breeders' Edge&#174 Oral Cal Plus - Revival Animal Health
To keep eclampsia at bay, so it never comes at all… forget everything about giving tums, cottage cheese, cheese, icecream.. etc. It’s useless. The body needs the calcium to be delivered with the correct ratio of Vit D and Phosphorus or it doesn’t absorb it, it’s useless. Pet Cal has this correct ratio. Another thing that has it is, believe it or not.. a scrambled whole egg! Of course everyone knows not to start calcium until the litter is whelped.. no giving it to PG bitches… I do give some calsorb during whelping If things slow down on a larger litter, but never before whelping. Make it a general practice to scramble your bitch an egg every day, and depending on weight, give ½ to a whole pet tab per day. I gave it to a 8 lb bitch ½ in the morning ½ at night…this is the “daily dose” for about a 20 lb dog who was NOT nursing a litter…so just fine for ½ the size, but nursing a litter. I would grind up the pet tab in the food processor and put the powder in the egg when I scrambled it.

Also, check your dog food for Soybeans, soy protein, or anything related to soy in any way. For SOME reason that is not completely understood by me (many menopause supplements contain soy, or are soy based, so this seems to be a contradiction).. soy protein can interfere with the absorption of calcium in dogs. If your food has soy of any sort, change to a food that does not for the duration of the weaning of the litter.

Ok I think I am following now, the nutri-cal should only be given to puppies, but not new born puppies. But the nurti drops can be given to a whelping dog and also to a new born puppie right before they begin to nurse for the very first time...

Is that right????

[bellemarie]

None of these products seem to be available in ni- I'm not sure about the general uk, but can't find anywhere... It would be worthwhile finding a us online shop to ship them just so I'd have them, wouldn't it? Granted I do use different glucose and calcium etc. supplements, but you guys seem to swear by these, so you kinda have me convinced!

[dawn27]

Thank you..... for all of your help! I understand it more clearly now..

Please post a link for Nutri drops...

[dawn27]

Below is a list of dif brands, which one would you suggest useing? If different from the list Please post a link...

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