Help/Ideas please
 

Today was a big day for us, as our little miss Abby had 3 puppies. This is the first time we have gone through the process of a C-section delivery.

Although Abby and puppies are doing great, Abby does seem to be afraid of them, and not really wanting to nurse. I had to put her in a kennel and close her and the pups in so that she would stay with them. Now the vet said that because they were delivered with her asleep this behavior was normal, and she would "kick in" the momma ways.

I just wanted reassurance, i guess from other Yorkie owners that something like this was normal. I feel like there is something I could be /should be doing other than watching and making sure they are warm and with her.

Any thoughts or ideas, heck even words of encouragement are greatly appreciated.

The vet is right , but he missed telling you to supervise her closelly throught the first few days, when i have a c-section like this i set ready to be up all night and all day , the second night you may take naps.
She may kill the puppies if she pushes them away, they may get cold and die if they are away from mom's body heat , also they need to nurse almost non-stop for that nice colostrum and with them nursing the oxitocine will be produced, that is the hormone that will cause her natural instincts to come alive and love the puppies. It sounds like all is good but you really need to be checking her and puppies non-stop for this first night ... do you have a heating pad there to keep things warm? I always use one after any delivery , specially c-sections. Make sure she is eating well too, i like to use "a/d" after c-sections , it gives them plenty of nutrients and it is easy to digest after surgery ... after the milk really comes down and she is liking the puppies to potty and staying with them without having to be locked up , you will be fine to rest.
It sounds like all is going well... just a lot more homework when you have a c-section... Just brew a huge carafe of coffee and enjoy ... all will be well :)
Congrats !!!!
XOXO

We made it through night 1. Thanks for some ideas, I ended up laying with her in the puppy pin with the puppies and a heating pad most of the night. The pups fed on and off all night and stay warm and seem to have slept well.
Momma dog still seems really exhausted from yesterdays events. I think this will be a whole weekend of laziness for me around the house just laying with her and the babies.
She does try to leave the pups kinda like she is saying, "ok need a break" so every couple of hours ive been getting her out and way for 10-15 mins for a bit of "her" time.
Will try to post photos!!

see if these photos attach this time

The babies are precious!
One thing I notice is that your lil mommy is not even 1 year old yet. From what I've read, this could increase the chance that she will have a hard time being a good mommy to the pups. After all, she's still a baby herself. She also looks very small...how big is she?

I hope all goes well for you & the new babies.

I just looked at the picture too and was thinking the same thing...Mom looks like a puppy herself:(

Thank you for reminding me, when I added her I put her BD in wrong, she is a year and 3 months. She is little. Vet says she will always be. She is 2.4 pounds and was 5.2 pounds minutes before csection. Oddly enough her (Abby's ) mom and dad are both twice her size. lol. somehow she just decided that she wanted to be the midget of the family. lol

I'm sorry I must have misunderstood. She weighed 2.4 lbs before you bred her & you still bred her? :confused: Did you research breeding before you bred her? If you did, you should have discovered that breeding a yorkie that small is very, very dangerous & is not recommended.

Your lil mommy looks very young...she may not bond with them at all cause of her age(I could be wrong) but I would watch her and the pups very closely, make sure she licks there lil bottoms so they potty...if she don't you will have to use a cotton ball and do it yourself every few hours...Mom and the babies are beautiful..Good luck.

Welcome to YT and congratulations on a safe delivery and healthy pups.
I agree with JDS though on this one.
She was far too small at 2.4lbs to be bred in the first place, heck my 14 week old pup is over 3lbs so I can only imagine how tiny she must be.
PLEASE do not breed her again, you have been VERY lucky.
You may not have known she was too small to breed then, but you do now and if you continue to breed her you really are risking her life.
I do not mean to preach I only care about Abby.
I wish you luck with her pups.

WOW less then 3 lbs?! You've been a member here since 2008 and you did not research ANYTHING before breeding her. I hate to be rude but shame on you! She had a c-section, she could of DIED!!!!!!!!! 1 year and 3 months, wow I'm sorry I even opened this thread, this is just so sad. I pray she and her babies don't run into any problems. PLEASE spay her because next time she could DIE!

Barbi1977
She is 2.4 pounds and was 5.2 pounds minutes before csection.


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i have a 10 year old and she is about 41/4 pounds and i thought she was to small to breed i also had a lil one she was 2 pound on the nose and i never even thought about having babies i just can not believe
guess i just need to stop typing

My God, she is small. No wonder she had to have a c-section. What on earth possessed you to breed such a small baby? And I do say baby because 15 months is too young, even in a normal sized girl.

Sorry, but everything about this is animal cruelty in my book. :mad:

Well,
You are doing good then... keep up the good work and i believe you will be exhausted but , one has to do what needs to be done...
Unfortunately i have to agree with the other posters as she was too small for breeding, but you got very lucky , very very very lucky ... so do your part and keep mom and puppies safe, eating, warm and nursing... eventually the mother instincts will kick in and she will take over, but due to her minuscule size, you will need to be available 24/ 7 for a few days longer and all will need closed supervision through the nursing process... eclampsia will be your next phantom ... so keep going.
Make sure puppies are gaining weight , use a nice kitchen scale and follow up to make sure their "necks" are getting thicker and they are putting weight ...
What is she eating? Are you feeding her "a/d" ? This is a prescription food you get from your vet, she must have this as with surgery you do not want to risk give her eggs or cheese or anything that will cause her stomach to get upset, the last thing you need is a digestive disagreement ....
Puppies are precious and so it is mom, no doubt about that !!!
XOXO

I agree!!! and to me she looks younger than 15 mos...if I was guessing I would say 8 or 9 mos tops...by the time my girls were 15 mos they were growing into there adult colors she isn't. JMO.

This little girl could very well be soft coated. However, some take longer to grow into adult coat.

The fact that she was bred on her first heat could be the very reason she hasn't taken to being a mom. Breeding should not be performed until 2nd heat and/or 18 months of age. Mental maturity should be taken into consideration as well as the size of a girl. As proven with this little one, she was too small and needed a C-section. She may have been 5 pounds and whelp time, but that was very much because of the pups she was carrying.

Good luck with these pups and take care of your little girl. Her health is very important to the health of these pups.

I am just totally shocked yet again. :(

Barbi your pups are cute as they all are. Please know the signs of eclampsia, if you don't already, also your tiny Mom with three pups will need lots of health/food support. go to the whelping pudding recipe that is posted on this thread.

Like others here, this dog was way too young and very much too small to be bred. Please spay her as soon as possible.

I'm very happy Mom and pups are doing well right now, but the road is long, and you need to be alert along that long road.

Please let us know how all are doing we truly only hope the best for these pups and Mom.

I really, really hope that the puppies and the Mom are ok.
I just have to be honest, it breaks my heart that she was bred at such a young age and even worse IMO at such a small size, on purpose. :(
Most reputable breeders would never breed a female that small, EVER. You are incredibly lucky that she survived.
I hope you have her spayed, so she can enjoy a life as a wonderful pet!

She looks much younger than 15 mos...still looks like a puppy!

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/att...?ads=1&postid=

While I am NOT defending this breeder, I have a 4 yr old in a puppy clip..and at 3 pounds everyone thinks she is maybe a year.

I wish the poster well...please consider spaying your bitch...it is very difficult for a small mom to produce milk for a litter...she will need help.

I'm guessing the BD entered is correct. Look at her f'aced, her color hasn't even changed yet. She's just a puppy

Lady I cannot believe that you would even think of breeding that baby girl. What were you thinking?

I have a 2.75 pound female that I cannot imagine breeding. My 8 week old puppies are bigger than she isd.

You will be very fortunate if this baby does not die from eclampsia. But since you didn't bother to do any research, you no doubt have no idea what that is.

I have a 3 pound yorkie and would never breed her. That is why I had her spayed, so I would never have to worry about her. OMG!! I can't believe you bred her. That is way toooooooo tiny. Also beside her having a dark coat, wrong texture, she also has down ears. I would have her spayed as soon as she gets over taking care of these babies. You are so lucky she did not die. You have a hard road ahead, since she is so young and will have to make sure the pups nurse every 2 hours. Also with mama's small size you will need to watch for ecampsia. I hope you will be staying by her side 24/7 - you have to watch her closely.

You always post with such class..

'awh I see your other posts
 

So in May last year you stated you planned to bred abby.

Did after 2yrs as a member here, did you do any research on the risks of breeding a very tiny girl??? And pray tell me what that research said. Post the links.

I'd surely love to have a word or two with whoever told you that breeding a 2.5lb girl was safe, and just the nblooody thing to do!

So why did you breed her? For fun? To give pups to your family and friends? To make money off her very tiny back?

According to your earlier posts, you bred large bred dogs before, and then when your two died, you fell in love with the Yorkie and wanted to breed them.

So tell me who was your mentor? And how many health checks if any did you do on the sire and dam?

I know these posts are supposed to be educational, but I am aghast at what you did, and DIDN"T do.

I hope you don't try to sell these pups on this site

2.5 pounds!? :eek: How horrible. Yes, to answer the question, I several thoughts and suggestions do come to mind... Unfortunately, I do not think that voicing them would sit well with the mods. :rolleyes:

:clapsmile

Wow...
 

I'm no breeder and I don't ever in my life plan on becoming one, but even *I* know that is too small a dog. I did research on breeding in order to continue my search for a possible adequate breeder (since rescues haven't been coming through, although now I may know the cause of that...) and even I understood that breeding a pup that small is too risky and unhealthy. I wanted such info so that I could *avoid* buying from people who have poor breeding practices, and someone who endangers the lives of her mum and pups certainly falls into the category of poor breeding practices.

If someone who isn't ever planning on becoming a breeder can thoroughly read the stickies and other threads in this section... certainly someone who is *planning* on breeding should at the very least skim for important points for crying out loud! In reality, they should be reading it *more* thoroughly than some random non-breeder like me... yeesh. :/

Ignoring research, anyone can plainly see that those pups are too large in comparison to the mum. The first thing I thought when I looked at them was, " Awww pups! So cute!" I am an animal lover after all...but that was quickly followed up by, "Wow, those pups are basically the same size as other breeds of pups I've seen... omg they look so big in relation to the mom!"

You would not have passed my breeder questionnaire. Breeding this little girl in the first place disqualified you on question 1. :(

:(
That picture w/ mom is heartbreaking to me. She just looks miserable.

I hope everything continues to go well for her and pups. My heart goes out to that little mommy. So sad.