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Cooper2010 06-27-2010 03:29 PM
Then why is backyard/bad breeder there?

I can see the worm/deworm tag as having a place but the other things seem to be wrongly applied from what I've read.

Cooper2010 06-27-2010 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3178258)
This thread is not about rehoming a dog, it is a discussion on deworming puppies. It is not a matter of I believe this and you believe that, it is a matter of irresponsibly feeding poison to puppies withdout first determining if they need it.

If the adult dogs do not have worms, then the puppies will not have worms. And if the adult dogs have worms, then take care of that problem and there will be no reason to deworm the puppies 5 times.

Over exposer to pesticides causes cancer. Hopefully the people that were routinely deworming puppies, will change their way of doing things.

The tags are there so this thread will come up if someone does a search on any of those words.
With all due respect, I believe that is exactly what it is.

bjh 06-27-2010 04:13 PM
I know some people that bought dogs from well know show breeders and their dogs had coccidia and/or giardia. Anyone that has a large number of dogs is at risk of getting it no matter how clean they try to keep their place.

Cooper2010 06-27-2010 04:18 PM
I'm finding it hard to believe that a person who's been here since 2006 with over 2500 posts is all of the sudden a bad/backyard breeder over deworming methods.

It seems vindictive. Just my opinion.

It also leads me to believe that the tagging feature may be easily abused.

Mardelin 06-27-2010 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bjh (Post 3178334)
I know some people that bought dogs from well know show breeders and their dogs had coccidia and/or giardia. Anyone that has a large number of dogs is at risk of getting it no matter how clean they try to keep their place.
Show people/BYBer/Puppy. The parasite is there, laying dormant in a dam and not in all dams. The stress of a pup being taken from it's mother/littermates and moving to a new home may be all that is needed to bring it out. The one thing that one needs to know is that once the coccidiossis is in ones home, you never get rid of it. And it has nothing to do with cleanliness or filth....it's there.

Mardelin 06-27-2010 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Cooper2010 (Post 3178342)
I'm finding it hard to believe that a person who's been here since 2006 with over 2500 posts is all of the sudden a bad/backyard breeder over deworming methods.

It seems vindictive. Just my opinion.

It also leads me to believe that the tagging feature may be easily abused.
I don't think the number of posts has anything to do with anything......

This forum is a place to share information. It may not be recieved by some posting within the thread, but it may help others that are reading the thread.

bjh 06-27-2010 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Cooper2010 (Post 3178342)
I'm finding it hard to believe that a person who's been here since 2006 with over 2500 posts is all of the sudden a bad/backyard breeder over deworming methods.

It seems vindictive. Just my opinion.

It also leads me to believe that the tagging feature may be easily abused.
What is the tagging feature? I haven't heard of that.

Cooper2010 06-27-2010 04:27 PM
I agree. From what I've read, some of those are warrantless based on this topic.

Cooper2010 06-27-2010 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bjh (Post 3178349)
What is the tagging feature? I haven't heard of that.
If you run your mouse over the icon on the right where an attachment icon usually is, you'll see several references to one person.

If you look at the bottom of this page under post reply, there's a bookmark window, underneath is a tag window. It seems anyone can apply tags.

Cooper2010 06-27-2010 04:46 PM
I just clicked on edit tags and added "health" so anyone can do it.

WinstonMom 06-27-2010 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Cooper2010 (Post 3178342)
I'm finding it hard to believe that a person who's been here since 2006 with over 2500 posts is all of the sudden a bad/backyard breeder over deworming methods.

It seems vindictive. Just my opinion.

It also leads me to believe that the tagging feature may be easily abused.
I agree with this. I have not been on the forum very long and have tried to keep an open mind, but I see nothing here that should warrant some of the tags, like backyard breeder, or bad breeder. I don't know any of the people here so I base my opinions strictly upon what I read.

WinstonMom 06-27-2010 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3177813)
Read post #172 You took what was said out of context. it is this type of misquoting that starts arguments.
Nothing was exactly misquoted. I am simply saying that I feel that such comments, if made to me, would be considered offensive. Not trying to start an argument, just stating a fact.

Cooper2010 06-27-2010 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by WinstonMom (Post 3178403)
I agree with this. I have not been on the forum very long and have tried to keep an open mind, but I see nothing here that should warrant some of the tags, like backyard breeder, or bad breeder. I don't know any of the people here so I base my opinions strictly upon what I read.
Exactly. I've spent most of the time reading the NUMEROUS forums here, and I don't know anyone either. From what I've read, the bad breeder tags, etc should be edited by the person that put them there.

There is no need for that based soley on this topic.

My gut feeling is that someone didn't like what another said, so they applied the tag. There is always room for disagreement without hostility.

Cooper2010 06-27-2010 05:55 PM
Also, if anyone's noticed, the original poster has left the building.

JeanieK 06-27-2010 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bjh (Post 3178334)
I know some people that bought dogs from well know show breeders and their dogs had coccidia and/or giardia. Anyone that has a large number of dogs is at risk of getting it no matter how clean they try to keep their place.
That is not the issue here. the issue is should puppies be dewormed routinely, without first determining if the have worms.


New research shows that it is not good and should not be done. Feeding poison to our puppies unnecessarily is not good. it causes other issues down the road. Why not just get a simple stool sample test done first.

One little test. And then if the puppies do have worms, you can treat all of your dogs, because if one has worms, chances are they all do, and you can prevent it the next time by keeping your adult dogs worm free, and you won't have to deworm the puppies.

it's about education, it's about new breeders learning from experienced breeders.


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