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jackson25 02-25-2010 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tortoisekeeper (Post 3017601)
I apologize. I read bred to my 2lb yorkie and did not notice stud.

No problem.

BonBon 02-25-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tortoisekeeper (Post 3017601)
I apologize. I read bred to my 2lb yorkie and did not notice stud.

I had to read that line 3 times before I picked up on it - it wasn't very clear to me.

Nancy1999 02-25-2010 11:15 AM

Lol, a two pound yorkie with a Shih Tzu? Who is this proverbial 2-pound stud, that just mates with anyone? I read about him on so many breeder sites. :rolleyes:

YorkieBabycakes 02-25-2010 09:25 PM

Posting puppies
 
I'm new too, but after reading the rules about exposing personal info .....like address. Someone might see this post, find that web page and go to her house and harm her or her family. I'm afraid to post puppies for sale here now. Because I have Yorkies and one Shih Tzu; also my daughter has her one Maltese she wants to show and breed are we now flagged as a puppy mill?

I thought re-homing a pound puppy would be a good thing. Taking a dog from the death row and finding a good family to take it is wrong? You don't know that she tried to pass the dog as her own breed lines, maybe she told them it was a re-homed dog. And there's always a re-homing fee, even the pound charges one. Maybe she is a like a dog whisperer and turned the dog around. Maybe she saw a some potential in the dog. Must have, if it's now licking and cuddling with the new owners. Maybe she is an angel from heaven and this is our test to treat her nice. Don't be a beast and condemn her. If she makes a little money for her work then that might be her payment in life. Dose she live in a mansion? Maybe this is her God given gift in life. May God bless her for finding dogs that make people happy. It sounds like the Mexico thing is a down right lie.

I don't keep a male to breed my female because I don't have the room. Is it bad to find a referred breeder to take your females to? So what if the papers are in the mail. Maybe the breeder is retiring a former stud and is starting with a new one.

Your never met this person why so hard on her and judging her in this way. I'm not against designer breeds. I didn't see any mutts mixes with more then two breeds mixed on her web page. Ask any Vet he will tell you to buy a mix not a purebred.

Scared to post again for fear of criticism, I know I'm in for persecution and judgement but I don't care.

YorkieBabyCakes

YorkieBabycakes 02-25-2010 09:51 PM

Posting here is scary
 
I'm new too, but after reading the rules about exposing personal info .....like address. Someone might see this post, find that web page and go to her house and harm her or her family. I'm afraid to post puppies for sale here now. Because I have Yorkies and one Shih Tzu; also my daughter has her one Maltese she wants to show and breed are we now flagged as a puppy mill?

I thought re-homing a pound puppy would be a good thing. Taking a dog from the death row and finding a good family to take it is wrong? You don't know that she tried to pass the dog as her own breed lines, maybe she told them it was a re-homed dog. Maybe she is like a dog whisperer and turned the dog around, or she saw a some potential in the dog. Must have, if it's now licking and cuddling with the new owners. Maybe she is an angel from heaven and this is our test to treat her nice. Don't be a beast and condemn her. If she makes a little money for her work then that might be her payment in life. Dose she live in a mansion? Maybe this is her God given gift in life. May God bless her for finding dogs that make people happy. Even the pounds charge a re-homing fee. It sounds like the Mexico thing is a down right lie.

I know I don't keep a male to breed my female because I don't have the room. Is it bad to find a referred breeder to take your females to? So what if the papers are in the mail. Maybe the breeder is retiring a former stud and is starting with a new one.

Your never met this person why so hard on her and judging her in this way. I'm not against designer breeds. I didn't see any mutts mixs with more then two breeds mixed on her web page. Ask any Vet he will tell you to buy a mix not a purebred.

Scared to post again for fear of criticism,

YorkieBabyCakes

RoscoesMommy42 02-26-2010 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieBabycakes (Post 3018530)
I'm new too, but after reading the rules about exposing personal info .....like address. Someone might see this post, find that web page and go to her house and harm her or her family. I'm afraid to post puppies for sale here now. Because I have Yorkies and one Shih Tzu; also my daughter has her one Maltese she wants to show and breed are we now flagged as a puppy mill?

I thought re-homing a pound puppy would be a good thing. Taking a dog from the death row and finding a good family to take it is wrong? You don't know that she tried to pass the dog as her own breed lines, maybe she told them it was a re-homed dog. Maybe she is like a dog whisperer and turned the dog around, or she saw a some potential in the dog. Must have, if it's now licking and cuddling with the new owners. Maybe she is an angel from heaven and this is our test to treat her nice. Don't be a beast and condemn her. If she makes a little money for her work then that might be her payment in life. Dose she live in a mansion? Maybe this is her God given gift in life. May God bless her for finding dogs that make people happy. Even the pounds charge a re-homing fee. It sounds like the Mexico thing is a down right lie.

I know I don't keep a male to breed my female because I don't have the room. Is it bad to find a referred breeder to take your females to? So what if the papers are in the mail. Maybe the breeder is retiring a former stud and is starting with a new one.

Your never met this person why so hard on her and judging her in this way. I'm not against designer breeds. I didn't see any mutts mixs with more then two breeds mixed on her web page. Ask any Vet he will tell you to buy a mix not a purebred.

Scared to post again for fear of criticism,

YorkieBabyCakes


Another newbie popping up in support! It's so interesting how this happens. People are upset because she is puposely mixing breeds, of course you wouldn't be upset since you do it to. I can assure you, if you are all for doing this, be prepared for ridicule. YT has a lot of people very dedicated to the betterment of the breed, and mixing is not betering. Lots of people on here also have yorkie mixes. That is great! They are absolutely beautiful! I love all dogs! But does that mean it is ok to breed them that way? Just understand there are a lot of strong opinions here about this, so be prepared for that if you intend to stay.

red98vett 02-26-2010 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieBabycakes (Post 3018530)
I'm new too, but after reading the rules about exposing personal info .....like address. Someone might see this post, find that web page and go to her house and harm her or her family. I'm afraid to post puppies for sale here now. Because I have Yorkies and one Shih Tzu; also my daughter has her one Maltese she wants to show and breed are we now flagged as a puppy mill?

I thought re-homing a pound puppy would be a good thing. Taking a dog from the death row and finding a good family to take it is wrong? You don't know that she tried to pass the dog as her own breed lines, maybe she told them it was a re-homed dog. Maybe she is like a dog whisperer and turned the dog around, or she saw a some potential in the dog. Must have, if it's now licking and cuddling with the new owners. Maybe she is an angel from heaven and this is our test to treat her nice. Don't be a beast and condemn her. If she makes a little money for her work then that might be her payment in life. Dose she live in a mansion? Maybe this is her God given gift in life. May God bless her for finding dogs that make people happy. Even the pounds charge a re-homing fee. It sounds like the Mexico thing is a down right lie.

I know I don't keep a male to breed my female because I don't have the room. Is it bad to find a referred breeder to take your females to? So what if the papers are in the mail. Maybe the breeder is retiring a former stud and is starting with a new one.

Your never met this person why so hard on her and judging her in this way. I'm not against designer breeds. I didn't see any mutts mixs with more then two breeds mixed on her web page. Ask any Vet he will tell you to buy a mix not a purebred.

Scared to post again for fear of criticism,

YorkieBabyCakes

I'm staying out of the body of this thread but bolded a comment in RED I want to reply to. I'm directing this to anyone

Getting dogs from shelters IS a good thing - but anyone who's been to a shelter can easily see how bad the problem is - so why would someone say they save dogs then turn around and ADD to the problem by breeding indiscrimantly ?

They're only ADDING to a known problem - which is there are too many dogs being bred for profit which in turn - adds to the ongoing shelter population.

If one is going to truly save dogs then it makes no sense to me that someone would claim to be saving them when in reality they're just adding to the pet population that we all know won't change until people start being responsible.

Reese1 02-26-2010 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieBabycakes (Post 3018530)
I'm new too, but after reading the rules about exposing personal info .....like address. Someone might see this post, find that web page and go to her house and harm her or her family. I'm afraid to post puppies for sale here now. Because I have Yorkies and one Shih Tzu; also my daughter has her one Maltese she wants to show and breed are we now flagged as a puppy mill?

I thought re-homing a pound puppy would be a good thing. Taking a dog from the death row and finding a good family to take it is wrong? You don't know that she tried to pass the dog as her own breed lines, maybe she told them it was a re-homed dog. Maybe she is like a dog whisperer and turned the dog around, or she saw a some potential in the dog. Must have, if it's now licking and cuddling with the new owners. Maybe she is an angel from heaven and this is our test to treat her nice. Don't be a beast and condemn her. If she makes a little money for her work then that might be her payment in life. Dose she live in a mansion? Maybe this is her God given gift in life. May God bless her for finding dogs that make people happy. Even the pounds charge a re-homing fee. It sounds like the Mexico thing is a down right lie.

I know I don't keep a male to breed my female because I don't have the room. Is it bad to find a referred breeder to take your females to? So what if the papers are in the mail. Maybe the breeder is retiring a former stud and is starting with a new one.

Your never met this person why so hard on her and judging her in this way. I'm not against designer breeds. I didn't see any mutts mixs with more then two breeds mixed on her web page. Ask any Vet he will tell you to buy a mix not a purebred.

Scared to post again for fear of criticism,

YorkieBabyCakes

I don't understand the logic of the statement in red. What difference does it make if they are mixing two or more, they are still "mutts" as you put them! Which is what shelters and rescues are full of!
YES, saving a dog from a shelter & adopting from rescue is a wonderful thing, so to add to the other comments, why would you risk the potential by mixing so many breeds?

joeys mom 02-26-2010 09:50 AM

I have never been afraid or embarrassed to support my family or friends or concerned for receiving criticism for my support of them, if I feel they are in the right. And I would not hide the fact that I am their friend or love them, what does that have to say for itself?

As far as exposing someone to danger, we had a member that was doing the right thing by making the public aware they needed to check references and paperwork before buying or selling a dog of this breed in that area, it could have been a breeder, hobby breeder or backyard breeder. Your friend/loved one is the one THAT CHOSE to confirm it was her...Her website gives more information about her and her practices than was ever exposed on here.

Now, the one thing I would love to address is your thoughts on rehoming animals from SHELTERS......My opinion on this does not include the aid of helping individules rehome animals.....If an animal comes from the shelter, they are ADOPTED. Shelters do not make it a practice to put down a purebreed dog...they know of all the rescues and send them off to them. Alot of good homes are available to animals, and alot of familes would love to have a small, cute dog. But can not afford to purchase a $1500 dog, and give it the medical attention it needs, however, they can adopt a dog (usually for under $100) and give it the medical attention it needs. Yes, there is an adoptiong fee. That fee goes to food, shots, medical care, nutering, spaying, cleaning supplies etc of each animal. Sure isn't enough to care for the animal, is it?? Now, lets say this nice caring breeder comes into the shelter, and picks over the good animals and takes 2 with them. They clean them up, groom them and them puts them on their website to rehome them,,,Why would the rehoming fee be $100-$2000. Couldn't be medical, because the shelters would not adopt out an animal needing that kind of medical attention. Perhaps $100 to cover the cost of what they have in the animal but anything more is profiting from the animal. Now, is this breeder going to disclose the fact that animal is from the shelter, are they going to ask $100-$2000 and tell people the problems this animal may have for a lifetime!!! or is it going to be sold for $400 to a family that can afford a small animal that they can care for,,,,My thought yes, that is just what will happen, then this family has a dog that might not be able to be crated at all, never learns correct potty habits, then finds itself back in another shelter to have this happen over and over again. While that very caring breeder can set back and say, oh, look at all those poor dogs I have saved from death.... while she has $800 feathering her purse.. The shelter would have $200 that has already went to the care of the other two dogs that the breeder adopted, to continue trying to care for hundreds of MUTTS that no one wants,,

Angels from heaven comes in many forms, I don't thing there is one that will be making profit from animals that have already been through what shelter dogs have been, nor do I think you earn wings for being deceitful to people about the true history of something you charge a REHOMING fee for. I wonder if your friend/loved one has ever thought, what if God came into her life as a cute little doggie and she done this to him, would he be smiling on her?????? What if he came as a child, whom when she put that cute little doggie in her arms, that child took the dog home, only to have it peeing all over the house and that child had to give up that little dog that she loved so much,,, would God be happy with that??????

If I saw your friend/loved one today, I would not be unkind to her, I would love her just as I do my neighbors. However, I do not beleive she is doing somethings right, and I feel she needs to learn the true love of the lord, It's not guoting scripture trying to defend actions she has taken, nor should she use it in promoting her business. She might want to try living it. That will take her alot further in life, and to the most important part of life, the end..My hope and prayer for her, is she learns something from all of this and promotes good business practices,,, when you do right by the public and disclose all information, she will strengthen her name and business... no one can make changes to our reputation except ourselves....you guys can spend time and energy on looking to blame this forum for her downfall or look at some of the concerns people seem to have to improve her image to the public. Wishing you both the best.....Sharon

Cerise 02-26-2010 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Absolution (Post 3017431)
Mel,

It looks like you have run afoul of the elitist Yorkie clique, who think they are superior to anyone breeding mixes - somehow confusing maintaining breeding standards with righteous behavior. There will always be a market for both high-end purebred with controlled lines and cheaper mixes for people who want a pet. Some of the best tempered breeds are mixes. As a parent looking for a loving pet for the kids, I would go to you and not the betterment of the breed folks. They are welcome to stay in their chickeny flock around their RV's at the dog show and cluck cluck about the rest of us. Hang in there sis.


:eek: Okay, this whole statement is IMO beyond spiteful. What good are you doing mixing all those breeds for pets that end up sickly and/or in shelters? And I don't care to hear that mess about mixed breeds are healthier. You come supporting your "sis" who is obviously a scam artist, but the both of you JUSTIFY her breeding/rescuing/swapping/selling practices that are just simply foul, and have the nerve to claim members on YT are elitist. And what is up with all the Bible quotes? Is that suppose tho make you seem more respectful or ethical? :mad: PPLLEEAASSEE!!!

Yes, :( sadly there will always be people who want a cheap pet. And there will always be people with cheap hearts (because your business practices show that you don't truly care about ANY breed) who look to make MONEY off of them. Hypocrites use the Bible in so many ways that I am beginning to get dizzy every time I meet someone who claims they love God and then ruin that claim by the words that come out of their mouths.

4doggiemama 02-26-2010 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerise (Post 3019121)
:eek:. And what is up with all the Bible quotes? Is that suppose tho make you seem more respectful or ethical? :mad: PPLLEEAASSEE!!!
.

It's quite interesting how many times I've checked out an unethical breeders web site that there are bible verses on the home page. What a misrepresentation of the Christian faith!:( I have begun to wonder if a person needs to run the other way when there are bible verses on a site. For those of you who are wondering, I am a woman of faith and it doesn't have to do with disliking the verses.:) And, yes, I do know that there are ethical breeders who choose to be up front with their faith which is great as long as it's sincere and not used to trap someone. ~Joanne~

red98vett 02-26-2010 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 4doggiemama (Post 3019664)
It's quite interesting how many times I've checked out an unethical breeders web site that there are bible verses on the home page. What a misrepresentation of the Christian faith!:( I have begun to wonder if a person needs to run the other way when there are bible verses on a site. For those of you who are wondering, I am a woman of faith and it doesn't have to do with disliking the verses.:) And, yes, I do know that there are ethical breeders who choose to be up front with their faith which is great as long as it's sincere and not used to trap someone. ~Joanne~

I agree ....There will always be lowlifes who believe quoting verse and stating they're Christian will lure someone into believing they're legit.... then there's those who truly are legit but people question it because there's so many scammers these days.

Micah my love 02-26-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 3019682)
I agree ....There will always be lowlifes who believe quoting verse and stating they're Christian will lure someone into believing they're legit.... then there's those who truly are legit but people question it because there's so many scammers these days.


:thumbup::thumbup: you are so right

livingdustmops 02-26-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 3019682)
I agree ....There will always be lowlifes who believe quoting verse and stating they're Christian will lure someone into believing they're legit.... then there's those who truly are legit but people question it because there's so many scammers these days.

Sadly it works on some people and I do not believe a reputable breeder would have this on their website.

Reese1 02-27-2010 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 3019682)
I agree ....There will always be lowlifes who believe quoting verse and stating they're Christian will lure someone into believing they're legit.... then there's those who truly are legit but people question it because there's so many scammers these days.


:thumbup::thumbup:


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