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02-13-2010, 07:21 PM | #16 | |
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I just wanted to know what might cause this breeder to mention "parti gene carrier" on a dog thats a pet only with an inflated price. | |
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02-13-2010, 07:41 PM | #17 | |
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02-14-2010, 12:40 AM | #18 |
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| I just wanted to say that I visited ColorfulYorkie.com and was blown away with the beauty of the pups. I myself have 3 beautiful Traditional's but hope to be the proud owner of a chocolate, gold or parti in the next few months....Just incredible |
02-14-2010, 03:31 AM | #19 | |
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They are very pretty!!!
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02-14-2010, 04:30 AM | #20 |
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| Oh wow a couple of drivers on here! Yay I'm not the only one! We drove 48 hours round trip to drop off a puppy in CO. We ate with the family and enjoyed their company! Talking on the phone is nothing like meeting a family in person! I loved every minute of it! Now I want to drive every one of my babies so I can meet the families!! If I have a baby that's going to live out of town. I prefer it to shipping. So much more personal. Sorry for getting off subject. Yea I too don't understand for the higher price of a carrier on limited reg. if you can't breed or aren't supposed to breed there's really no reason to charge more. I know a carrier can produce a parti if bred to another parti or carrier. But if you're not supposed to breed then why charge more? I would charge what I would charge for a standard colored Yorkie. Since you're not breeding. Right?
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02-14-2010, 08:39 AM | #21 | |
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You might be interested in reading about the first Parti registered with the CKC due to the efforts of Cindy Newhook at Pixie Dust Yorkies. You can read it on the PYTC PARTI YORKSHIRE TERRIER CLUB - News | |
02-14-2010, 08:56 AM | #22 |
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02-14-2010, 09:26 AM | #23 | |
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Another problem has complicated things; some biewer breeders are breeding biewers to parti's. Let me just say there is a huge difference between different biewers and what the breeders objectives are, although the to the untrained eye, the differences are not that apparent. Some are breeding because it's the newest thing, and they can get premium prices, and others are breeding because they believe that this particular strain that was developed in Germany, has enough unique traits that make it different enough from the yorkie to eventually become a new breed. A biewer breeder breeding for the money can breed to a parti carrier who was sold on "limited registration". They aren't planning to register with the AKC anyway. So there is a demand right now for some of the carriers, and that always ups the price. What happens when there is no longer a demand, so many of the regular yorkies will now have this recessive gene. How will this effect them Yorkies the long run? A Biewer buyer has a very difficult time right now supporting breeders who are really interested in improving their breed. It isn't that easy to figure out the difference based merely on what the breeders themselves say. Parti breeders need to be especially careful where their carriers go, just as one time traditional breeders needed to be careful. Limited registration doesn't really protect, spay and neuter is the only real protection. I would stay away from biewer breeders who registered with the CKC, and other registries and look for a registry/club that didn't approve of the Yorkshire Terrier parti/biewer mixing anymore.
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02-14-2010, 10:35 AM | #24 | |
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02-14-2010, 10:36 AM | #25 | |
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One in America and one in Canada. The CKC I was talk about is the "Canadian Kennel Club". The Canadian Kennel Club is like our AKC. And there are Biewer breeders who do believe the true Biewer is the German version of the American Parti’s since they were produced by 2 traditional yorkies. And YES they do believe in breeding back to the Yorkshire Terrier or the Parti's. Since the Biewer’s can not be registered with AKC, breeders do use the some of the other American registries like CKC,APRI and ACA. | |
02-14-2010, 10:37 AM | #26 | |
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02-14-2010, 10:41 AM | #27 |
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| [QUOTE=Nancy1999;3002750]Another problem has complicated things; some biewer breeders are breeding biewers to parti's. Let me just say there is a huge difference between different biewers and what the breeders objectives are, although the to the untrained eye, the differences are not that apparent. Some are breeding because it's the newest thing, and they can get premium prices, and others are breeding because they believe that this particular strain that was developed in Germany, has enough unique traits that make it different enough from the yorkie to eventually become a new breed. A biewer breeder breeding for the money can breed to a parti carrier who was sold on "limited registration". They aren't planning to register with the AKC anyway. So there is a demand right now for some of the carriers, and that always ups the price. What happens when there is no longer a demand, so many of the regular yorkies will now have this recessive gene. How will this effect them Yorkies the long run? A Biewer buyer has a very difficult time right now supporting breeders who are really interested in improving their breed. It isn't that easy to figure out the difference based merely on what the breeders themselves say. Parti breeders need to be especially careful where their carriers go, just as one time traditional breeders needed to be careful. Limited registration doesn't really protect, spay and neuter is the only real protection. I would stay away from biewer breeders who registered with the CKC, and other registries and look for a registry/club that didn't approve of the Yorkshire Terrier parti/biewer mixing anymore.[/QUOTE] I agree. They fought so hard to get the partis registered AKC, why would you want to have them registered CKC? |
02-14-2010, 10:45 AM | #28 | |
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02-14-2010, 10:56 AM | #29 | |
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The first Parti registered with the CKC "Canada Kennel Club" was an America bred AKC Parti. | |
02-14-2010, 10:56 AM | #30 | ||
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They would be selling biewers through the CKC. If you mix a parti with a biewer it can pass for a biewer. There are genetic clusters that could indicate that the biewer is different than the Yorkshire terrier, if they are breed back to the Yorkshire terrier, the offspring will lose these clusters and the genetics will be watered down with a regular/parti yorkie. Some breeders believe that we should keep the lines separate, and I tend to believe this too.
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