to own your stud or not??

[carmen in nj]

let me let you in another little detail about owning a stud, if you REALLY get to know your stud REALLY WELL, he will let you know which girl is close to season by the way he starts courting her.. I been watching my Harry for the past 3 years, if the girls are off, he plays but when they are close he chases them, he play bites their legs, is really fun to watch him and he has NEVER being wrong yet.. by the time i see the first blood he has been courting for a week...LOL He is close to retirement now, he will be 6 on sept.2010, and I swear I am so torn, but I want the best for him so he is going to be neutered and he can live the rest of his life as the KING of the castle that he is.. He produces GORGEOUS puppies, his coat is super silky and he always tested phenomenal, but I don't want to abuse his tributes either..he is MY BOY...
hugs,
Carmen in nj

[chachi]

So studs do mark after they are bred which was the point I was trying to make on the other thread and was corrected. The term peeing machine actually came from a long time breeder on here I respect. Now I dont know they become peeing machines so maybe I shouldnt have said that but according to her they do

[KYBLUE]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

I love my boys too.

But, coming to a conclusion on whether to buy a stud or to pay for stud services is a bit more complicated than that.
If you're planning to breed, one must look at the female without those rose colored glasses. You must assess her with a critical eye ( her assets as well as her faults) and know every aspect of her background. Find a stud that will complement her or has assets that can fix her faults. One must know what it takes to be able to know how to fix or change things. In other words, canine genetic classes.

Owning your own stud comes with a lot of responsibility of knowing how to manage a dog after he has been used for breeding.....It can be done with a minimal amount of issues, but you need to know learn how to manage those issues before they get out of hand. My biggest problem is that my boys go off food whenever there is a girl in Season. I've had to resort to hand feeding them at times. Nothing more pathetic that watching a love sick boy that won't eat.

[carmen in nj]

Originally Posted by chachi

So studs do mark after they are bred which was the point I was trying to make on the other thread and was corrected. The term peeing machine actually came from a long time breeder on here I respect. Now I dont know they become peeing machines so maybe I shouldnt have said that but according to her they do

In reality all dogs mark more or less, girls in heat tend to mark too, my mentor has a girl that everytime she is in heat marks her room.. I have not experience that with my girls. and even a neutered dog might have marking tendencies. bred or not a dog is a dog and is going to mark more or less, my stud only marks the door where the bitch in season is, and he only marks when she is HIGHLY receptive, which I LOVE because tell me the right days to breed. I have not done a progesterone test since I been using this boy..LOL I mated according to his marking and my pups are born exactly 63 days to the day of my stud going INSANE, and marking the door... I am extremely surprise every time, because of his ability to do this...
hey breeding is not an exact science but we try to make it one..LOL
owning a stud takes a little more knowing your man that meets the eye..

[WV~Yorkies]

My males pee on anything and everything but I stil love them..lol I have 2 girls that will also lift their leg a pee. It is harder to deal with a female doing it than a male. My boys I can put a belly band and off they go but my girls I don't like to use diapers because they poop in them too. I wish they would invent something for the girls they could wear but still could poop.

[chachi]

I agree all males can mark I just think there is a higher chance of it hapening if theyve been bred or not neutered. My boy doesnt mark but he was neutered. If it were a common occurance with neutered dogs there would be threads on here all the time about stopping the marking

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by chachi

I agree all males can mark I just think there is a higher chance of it hapening if theyve been bred or not neutered. My boy doesnt mark but he was neutered. If it were a common occurance with neutered dogs there would be threads on here all the time about stopping the marking

My boys do mark when there is a girl in Season....on goes belly band. But, I will say, I have girls that have never been bred and spayed....they mark. The difference is that it is much more obvious in a boy than a girl.....

[carmen in nj]

Originally Posted by WV~Yorkies

My males pee on anything and everything but I stil love them..lol I have 2 girls that will also lift their leg a pee. It is harder to deal with a female doing it than a male. My boys I can put a belly band and off they go but my girls I don't like to use diapers because they poop in them too. I wish they would invent something for the girls they could wear but still could poop.

LOL, I am sure a breeder somewhere is working on it...

[chachi]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

My boys do mark when there is a girl in Season....on goes belly band. But, I will say, I have girls that have never been bred and spayed....they mark. The difference is that it is much more obvious in a boy than a girl.....

Yep Ive had female cats that marked also

[Lilyshuman]

Thank you all for the good advice!!!

It is nice to hear the little men of your hearts are a part of your families and daily lives.

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by chachi

I agree all males can mark I just think there is a higher chance of it hapening if theyve been bred or not neutered. My boy doesnt mark but he was neutered. If it were a common occurance with neutered dogs there would be threads on here all the time about stopping the marking

I can't answer for all people, but in my case, you are correct. My Huckleberry hadn't one time ever marked until Livi went into her first heat. This was back when she was 10 months old and I just remember the two of them and me walking out of my bedroom and all of a sudden he stopped and raised his leg on the corner of the doorframe. I was shocked because this was a first....but Livi went into heat later that day so it was just his instincts. His marking has not stopped, but it is definitely better when Livi is not in heat.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by TammyJM

I can't answer for all people, but in my case, you are correct. My Huckleberry hadn't one time ever marked until Livi went into her first heat. This was back when she was 10 months old and I just remember the two of them and me walking out of my bedroom and all of a sudden he stopped and raised his leg on the corner of the doorframe. I was shocked because this was a first....but Livi went into heat later that day so it was just his instincts. His marking has not stopped, but it is definitely better when Livi is not in heat.

I will say I have pups at the age of 10 weeks begin to lift their leg......now they've obviously never been bred. And I also have a stud, that has never lifted his leg...............so, it's different in each male and how you manage it.

[Brooklynn]

my neutered boys do not mark the house and all my boys with the exception of Radar squat LOL Radar marks all the time even when there isn't a bitch in season but less often. I have a female that is spayed and she marks all the time too but at least it's on the pee pads when she does LOL...
I love my boys but like Mary said much more into studding or going out to stud than just either or....so much more into breeding than that

Donna

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

I will say I have pups at the age of 10 weeks begin to lift their leg......now they've obviously never been bred. And I also have a stud, that has never lifted his leg...............so, it's different in each male and how you manage it.

Exactly...Huck hadn't been bred when he started marking, but I do agree with Chachi that unneutered dogs are probably going to mark....especially if exposed to a dog in heat.

My guy is not bad about any of the things that I have heard about...no pacing, no barking (he's not a barker, though), no whining and he eats just fine during Livi's heats. I know that I am lucky and also understand that it is really due to his EXTREME passive temperament.

[WinstonMom]

I have two males in the house, an old guy, 11 years, strictly a pet (actually my first yorkie). He was neutered at 6 months, he marks, he won't start it but covers any other marks he can find.
My stud actually doesn't mark unless someone is in heat, then he has to wear belly bands. I agree it is a concern that he doesn't eat when someone is in season, he is a nervous little guy anyways and he turns to skin and bones after a couple of days of not eating. I love his personality, as I do all the boys, boys are certainly my favorite. He is not trustworthy with any pups that I may have in the house until they are past the age where they get in his face maybe six or eight months. He will get angry and give them a beating on occasion, not just a get out of my face growl, but a beating, so unless I can watch him VERY closely, he is in an ex-pen when I have youngsters around.
My biggest concern with the boys is my two boys HATE each other and would fight to the death, so they can never be in the same room together.
I also have a girl that marks and she also will mark in the house when another is in heat or has pups. Outside, she always lifts her leg and walks around covering pee spots of others, gets right involved in the outdoor "pee wars".

Just out of curiousity, does anyone else have to deal with any dogs that do not get along, to the point of trying to literally kill each other, I would be interested in knowing, and if so, is there any way of solving the problem.

Audrey