Breeding for Tinies

[yorkieangel]

CHINCHILLA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Sorry I just thought that was a hilarious point!

[chachi]

I am not a breeder but I think it is very wrong to breed tinies. A Tiny female would need a c section and she could die. Plus I think the breed standard should be followed. There are alot of health problems with the small yorkies.

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by sylvan

The existing yorkie toy standard IS ALREADY the bred down, tiniest size of this breed. The foundation size of this breed was much larger than the yorkies you see today. That is why you will occasionally see a throwback, larger pup.
There are ranges that are reasonable within a breed type. Below that range the optimum health issues are pushed sorely to the limits. People that attempt to breed smaller and smaller sizes are crossing litter 'runts' to 'runts'. As a general rule, the runt of a litter is not the healthiest specimen and will be more likely to have serious health issues.
Why did Poodle and Schnauzer breeders limit to a certain size? Have you seen a 1 1/2 lb Schnauzer? There are limits that make sense.
If you need to have a dog smaller than 3lbs, get a Chinchilla.
The biggest reason it is so disturbing to see the astronomical price tags on 'tinies', is the fact that in encourages unscrupulous people to breed down for big bucks. If it was a good idea to go smaller than the existing standard we would see divisions according to size already established within the standard.

I like what you wrote. I have, what I consider to be, a 'tiny'. My little Kia is 4#s. Very tiny body, very tiny bones. She came from a very reputable breeder that does NOT breed for the tinies. I signed, (willingly, happily, gratefully) a spay agreement. I can't imagine breeding this tiny girl.

It's a lot of extra responsibility to have a tiny, and I'm a nervous wreck when anthing medical arises. We almost lost her this past spring to her rabies shot. I never leave her home alone for more than 3 hours tops.

[sylvan]

Originally Posted by Yorkieville200

I like what you wrote. I have, what I consider to be, a 'tiny'. My little Kia is 4#s. Very tiny body, very tiny bones. She came from a very reputable breeder that does NOT breed for the tinies. I signed, (willingly, happily, gratefully) a spay agreement. I can't imagine breeding this tiny girl.

It's a lot of extra responsibility to have a tiny, and I'm a nervous wreck when anthing medical arises. We almost lost her this past spring to her rabies shot. I never leave her home alone for more than 3 hours tops.

Thanks.

[SoCalyorkiLvr]

Originally Posted by PinkMartini

How much smaller do you want a yorkie? They already are tiny! A 1lb dog isn't a dog. It's a rat

That was uncalled for and unnecessary imo.
There are really small chihuahua's and yorkies and trust me...they are all dog!!

[SoCalyorkiLvr]

Originally Posted by Yorkie_Mama

Hi ... um i think im reading this right back in the 60's akc had diffrent size catagories it was 5 pounds and under and over five but was not to exceed 12 pounds this is out of the complete yorkshire terrier by joan b Gordon and Janet E bennett *yorkie book of the early 70's
my vet says there are no aditional health risks by having smaller dogs ..but i dissagree my dog piglet had one litter and i fixed her after csection small ones can have more issues to gas also and hypoglycema i could sell piglets girls for tons of bucks but choose to put them on limited registration and have a hard core health screening and hard core screening of parents all my girls have to have a mom or dad who will take them with them to work with them or work out of home Tinys sugar drops so fast that by the time someone gets home from work the damage would be done !

How big is Piglet?

[Joy 1]

Chloe is only 3 pounds and I really hope she gets bigger. She's almost 5 months old so I am hoping for around 5 lbs. at least. She is so so tiny, I could not imagine her having babies. These tiny babies are so delicate...you have to watch them every second...and even then, they can hurt themselves. I did not purchase her thinking she was a tiny...my breeder said she would be about 5 lbs, but I just don't know...she is a very petite little girl!!! Anyway, I am totally against breeding any baby girl under 5 lbs. I know I don't respond to a lot of threads, but this just touches my heart.
Joy

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by Gracy

I might be wrong, but all the threads I have read about Tinie Yorkies are about the out of this world price tag. It also seems the high risk of medical problems.

To establish a new breed is a whole different ball park for me.

I breed to enhance and compliment the breed, within all the AKC Standards for Yorkshire Terriers.

Good Luck

You Rock I love hearing those kind of statements.

[bigdog]

I have two two lb babies. One came out of my 5 lb girl, so we kept her and had her spayed. Luckily she turned out to be fiesty and healthy as the mom. I went looking for a little bf for my sugar and ran across another tiney. Got him for a really fair price. He weighs only 2 lbs and the only thing bad that has happenned to him was my hubby dropped a piece of steak on the floor and he got choked on it, so off to the vet we ran. He was fine and still is. My first yorkie died of kidney failure and she was 2lbs at four month of age. All of these little babies are fragile i think, but for sure I would never breed a dog under 5 lbs. I have bred my little two lb male and had some beautiful pups ranging from 4 to 5.5 lbs. I call the people who buy my babies to see what goes on in my babies lives.I like to know if my babies are ok and that the owner is ok . So far so good

[YorkieShadow]

I would never breed a female under 5 lbs. even then it would scare me.

[Yorkie_Mama]

Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

How big is Piglet?

Piglet is now 3.6 oz but before breeding she was stable at almost 4 pounds and the vet said she should be fine .. she is but it was too rough on me she was fixed. I and found out how lucky i was she didnt pass away durring anestesia *miss spelling* though like Kathy said even when you breed large yorkies smaller babies are possible Bettys last years litter produced a 2 pound girl and daddy is 6 pounds and so is mom !

[Stinkerbell]

Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

That was uncalled for and unnecessary imo.
There are really small chihuahua's and yorkies and trust me...they are all dog!!

I thought this was kind of funny. Clearly she is being facetious.

Man, I would have thought that after making 5912 posts that would be obvious to you.

[txshopper73]

[Latuya]

Originally Posted by txshopper73

You and me both!!

[vainchick5]

To be honest, when I was looking for Coco, I PURPOSELY looked for tiny yorkie. I didn't know much when I started my search but I got a ton of information from the YTCA folks and other breeders that I had extensive conversations with. I understood the health risks, and was ready to handle it if need be. Yorkies, I agree, are already tiny and small but I think we don't quite realize how small 3lbs is. When I got Coco that first day, my jaw dropped. She was like in MY PALM. I didn't think she'd be that tiny. I took great care but was super careful and sometimes scared. Personally I think that these dogs are small enough and having a tiny myself, sometimes it's scary the kind of troubles these little runts can get into. While I have never had any health problems (knocking on wood) with Coco and her size not even hypoglycemia, encouraging breeding for tinies allows many irresposible people to join in for the money. So no I don't think they should breed yorkies to make tinies. Sometimes you get tinies anyway, even if it's not the intention, why not just leave it at that? I don't like the idea of a poor small female being put through that horrible ordeal. BUT I DO LOVE MY TINY GIRL, SHE'S MY WORLD AND SHE LOOKS NOTHING LIKE A RAT.