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cj125 · 10-03-2009, 10:30 AM

Here's a couple of Deb's dogs...
You'd be lucky to get one of her dogs.

http://www.tngdigitalmedia.com/emags.../pageflip.html

Check pages 13/14

itzzbarb · 10-03-2009, 10:44 AM

At the bottom of the page of MyLoveableYorkies.com, the name given is Jillian Hogan. I Googled that name. Looks like there are several members of the same family, last name of Hogan, who are involved in this. They sell many types of breeds, and are using lot's of AKA's to do so. Scroll down to "miscellaneous" and get an eyefull.

http://www.petshoppuppies.com/report.asp?ID=PETSHOP-2042432299

Amazing Yorkies · 10-03-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cj125

Here's a couple of Deb's dogs...
You'd be lucky to get one of her dogs.

http://www.tngdigitalmedia.com/emags.../pageflip.html

Check pages 13/14

Thank you CJ125! Page 25 is also my breeding.

Amazing Yorkies · 10-03-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

i was wondering when you would get here!

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

Every breeder that lives in Missouri is not a puppymill. Amazing Yorkies is one of the finest breeders to be found anywhere and you really had no call to say that.

Thanks Dee!

starstella92 · 10-03-2009, 12:44 PM

Yeah, that did hurt a bit, I'm sure. It's obvious that when she posted that reply, she didn't do her homework. Clearly Amazing Yorkies is just that, amazing.

But let's give her the benefit of the doubt, and maybe she was just suggesting that others look into every breeder under close scrutiny. I'm sure she feels pretty bad right now and didn't realize who she was slamming. Plus, you have to admit, MO does have a bad rap. And yes, not every breeder in MO is a mill.
Just call me Tara the peacemaker. lols

Sugar's Mom · 10-03-2009, 02:40 PM

no doubt she is linking every one in Missouri together. i think it's funny in a way. Someone did that to me one time not realizing that I am a member here . They were upset because I wouldn't sell them a teeny tiny puppy that i thought needed to stay with me a while longer. they came on here talking about " how wrong the breeder was and she was probably going to sell the puppy to someone else for more money.". they got straightened out in a hurry tho. This gal here iss probably too embarrassed at her mistake.

Amazing Yorkies · 10-03-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by starstella92

Yeah, that did hurt a bit, I'm sure. It's obvious that when she posted that reply, she didn't do her homework. Clearly Amazing Yorkies is just that, amazing.

But let's give her the benefit of the doubt, and maybe she was just suggesting that others look into every breeder under close scrutiny. I'm sure she feels pretty bad right now and didn't realize who she was slamming. Plus, you have to admit, MO does have a bad rap. And yes, not every breeder in MO is a mill.
Just call me Tara the peacemaker. lols

I totally understand she was only trying to help. I think all breeders should be checked out, as well as prospective parents. I do however, wonder how many know that Missouri is trying to shut down the mills. We have 11 inspectors compared to 2 inspectors in the States South of us. We have a number to call to report mills, which I've done. Anyone with more than 3 intact females will get State inspected yearly, and I know of several breeders from Texas and surrounding States that have never been State inspected.
I've heard about so many mills shut down from VA, FL, and PA yet you never hear about those States being called the "Puppy Mill of the World" as she called it. This is a terrible problem all over these United States, and I certainly wouldn't be leary of JUST Missouri when looking for my next baby!

ItalianSinfonia · 10-03-2009, 04:44 PM

Aren't some of us a little defensive...

I never said Amazing Yorkies was a puppy mill. I just advised to be careful, I think that anyone looking into getting a puppy/dog should do their research. At least that's what I thought reputable breeders suggested doing but maybe I'm wrong? How mature are we when we feel "slamming" someone makes us a bigger person or more reputable.

Amazing Yorkies I was impressed with how you handled the situation, your comment back was tasteful.

ItalianSinfonia · 10-03-2009, 04:56 PM

Thanks! I think what I said was totally taken out of context.

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Originally Posted by starstella92

Yeah, that did hurt a bit, I'm sure. It's obvious that when she posted that reply, she didn't do her homework. Clearly Amazing Yorkies is just that, amazing.

But let's give her the benefit of the doubt, and maybe she was just suggesting that others look into every breeder under close scrutiny. I'm sure she feels pretty bad right now and didn't realize who she was slamming. Plus, you have to admit, MO does have a bad rap. And yes, not every breeder in MO is a mill.
Just call me Tara the peacemaker. lols

itzzbarb · 10-03-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ItalianSinfonia

Aren't some of us a little defensive...

I never said Amazing Yorkies was a puppy mill. I just advised to be careful, I think that anyone looking into getting a puppy/dog should do their research. At least that's what I thought reputable breeders suggested doing but maybe I'm wrong? How mature are we when we feel "slamming" someone makes us a bigger person or more reputable.

Amazing Yorkies I was impressed with how you handled the situation, your comment back was tasteful.

If you were "warning us about the state of Missouri's puppy mills", then why did you single out Amazing Yorkies? I am done with this thread. What we have is another newbie stirring the pot.

ladyjane · 10-03-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by itzzbarb

If you were "warning us about the state of Missouri's puppy mills", then why did you single out Amazing Yorkies? I am done with this thread. What we have is another newbie stirring the pot.

Yep...two newbies...one supposedly inquiring about a breeder and the other one touting the virtues of this breeder who looks less than terrific to me, bragging about breeding a 3.5 pound yorkie. And then, insinuating anyone from MO is a mill, yet saying she only meant to warn people to investigate.
Looks like another of one of "those" threads.

ladyjane · 10-03-2009, 05:32 PM

And that website reminds me of that Jeff Dane's website. Stupid pictures of puppies in front of soda cans or in teacups and the like.

Lilyshuman · 10-04-2009, 10:37 AM

Oh my I looked into her further and if you check out her reference page some of the people talk about puppy having kennel cough and ear mites.

I can't believe she had me thinking she might be ok!!! I'm so glad I did my research and got on YT!!!!

Thank you for itzzbarb! I checked out the websites, they are just an online petshop. She told me on the phone that the puppies were raised in her home...she must have a big home!

The things people can get away with over the internet is just terrible!

BamaFan121s · 10-04-2009, 02:56 PM

I am a bit torn on whether or not to even comment on this thread. Some of the comments that have been made here by a new member are so outlandish, that they really speak for themselves. Deb is a long time member here and has contributed a lot to the forum. It would probably be a wise move for ANY member, in particular a brand new one preaching about doing their research, to do just that before making suggestive comments regarding other respected, long time members.

As for the original topic of the thread, which I believe was to gather information on a breeder, unfortunately some of the other comments have overshadow that. In the event that this whole entire thread is not a joke and an attempt to cause trouble--and at this point, that is certainly what it seems like--I would advise that please listen to the advice that some of the long time, established members here have given you. (Seems a little fishy when a brand new members joins and immediately is drawn to posting up high praise or being overly critical of a breeder before even introducing themselves and becoming oriented with the forum in general, as has been done here.) There are many red flags on the breeders site, many of which have been pointed out. IMO, it's never a wise move to go with a breeder that is highly questionable when there are so many honest ones out there to choose from.

livingdustmops · 10-04-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

I am a bit torn on whether or not to even comment on this thread. Some of the comments that have been made here by a new member are so outlandish, that they really speak for themselves. Deb is a long time member here and has contributed a lot to the forum. It would probably be a wise move for ANY member, in particular a brand new one preaching about doing their research, to do just that before making suggestive comments regarding other respected, long time members.

As for the original topic of the thread, which I believe was to gather information on a breeder, unfortunately some of the other comments have overshadow that. In the event that this whole entire thread is not a joke and an attempt to cause trouble--and at this point, that is certainly what it seems like--I would advise that please listen to the advice that some of the long time, established members here have given you. (Seems a little fishy when a brand new members joins and immediately is drawn to posting up high praise or being overly critical of a breeder before even introducing themselves and becoming oriented with the forum in general, as has been done here.) There are many red flags on the breeders site, many of which have been pointed out. IMO, it's never a wise move to go with a breeder that is highly questionable when there are so many honest ones out there to choose from.

Oh Bama - you are so mello....must be because it is Sunday..

10-03-2009, 10:30 AM	#16
cj125 Mia, Max and Moe's Mom Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 4,403	Here's a couple of Deb's dogs... You'd be lucky to get one of her dogs. http://www.tngdigitalmedia.com/emags.../pageflip.html Check pages 13/14 __________________ *Connie* Mia Max Moe Last edited by cj125; 10-03-2009 at 10:31 AM.

10-03-2009, 10:44 AM	#17
itzzbarb YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 553	At the bottom of the page of MyLoveableYorkies.com, the name given is Jillian Hogan. I Googled that name. Looks like there are several members of the same family, last name of Hogan, who are involved in this. They sell many types of breeds, and are using lot's of AKA's to do so. Scroll down to "miscellaneous" and get an eyefull. http://www.petshoppuppies.com/report.asp?ID=PETSHOP-2042432299 __________________ Andy Jillie

10-03-2009, 04:44 PM	#23
ItalianSinfonia YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 5	Defensive Aren't some of us a little defensive... I never said Amazing Yorkies was a puppy mill. I just advised to be careful, I think that anyone looking into getting a puppy/dog should do their research. At least that's what I thought reputable breeders suggested doing but maybe I'm wrong? How mature are we when we feel "slamming" someone makes us a bigger person or more reputable. Amazing Yorkies I was impressed with how you handled the situation, your comment back was tasteful.

10-03-2009, 05:32 PM	#27
ladyjane Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 27,490	And that website reminds me of that Jeff Dane's website. Stupid pictures of puppies in front of soda cans or in teacups and the like. __________________ CLOUD NINE BEDS--YORKIE HAVEN RESCUE MY ETSY SHOP

10-03-2009, 12:44 PM	#20
starstella92 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 216	Yeah, that did hurt a bit, I'm sure. It's obvious that when she posted that reply, she didn't do her homework. Clearly Amazing Yorkies is just that, amazing. But let's give her the benefit of the doubt, and maybe she was just suggesting that others look into every breeder under close scrutiny. I'm sure she feels pretty bad right now and didn't realize who she was slamming. Plus, you have to admit, MO does have a bad rap. And yes, not every breeder in MO is a mill. Just call me Tara the peacemaker. lols

10-03-2009, 02:40 PM	#21
Sugar's Mom BANNED! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 9,248	no doubt she is linking every one in Missouri together. i think it's funny in a way. Someone did that to me one time not realizing that I am a member here . They were upset because I wouldn't sell them a teeny tiny puppy that i thought needed to stay with me a while longer. they came on here talking about " how wrong the breeder was and she was probably going to sell the puppy to someone else for more money.". they got straightened out in a hurry tho. This gal here iss probably too embarrassed at her mistake.

10-04-2009, 10:37 AM	#28
Lilyshuman Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Calgary Posts: 520	Oh my I looked into her further and if you check out her reference page some of the people talk about puppy having kennel cough and ear mites. I can't believe she had me thinking she might be ok!!! I'm so glad I did my research and got on YT!!!! Thank you for itzzbarb! I checked out the websites, they are just an online petshop. She told me on the phone that the puppies were raised in her home...she must have a big home! The things people can get away with over the internet is just terrible!

10-04-2009, 02:56 PM	#29
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	I am a bit torn on whether or not to even comment on this thread. Some of the comments that have been made here by a new member are so outlandish, that they really speak for themselves. Deb is a long time member here and has contributed a lot to the forum. It would probably be a wise move for ANY member, in particular a brand new one preaching about doing their research, to do just that before making suggestive comments regarding other respected, long time members. As for the original topic of the thread, which I believe was to gather information on a breeder, unfortunately some of the other comments have overshadow that. In the event that this whole entire thread is not a joke and an attempt to cause trouble--and at this point, that is certainly what it seems like--I would advise that please listen to the advice that some of the long time, established members here have given you. (Seems a little fishy when a brand new members joins and immediately is drawn to posting up high praise or being overly critical of a breeder before even introducing themselves and becoming oriented with the forum in general, as has been done here.) There are many red flags on the breeders site, many of which have been pointed out. IMO, it's never a wise move to go with a breeder that is highly questionable when there are so many honest ones out there to choose from.