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JeanieK · 09-27-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fannie

Also, if you do the online record keeping, you can go in and lock the record for each puppy. Meaning, you can put in full or limited registration and regardless of what the new puppy owner tries to register it will be what you put it as unless you change it.

That doesn't stop them from going with another registry though. It also won't stop AKC from registering any puppies born from the dog if it is bred to another AKC dog.

But if the look at the breeder records and find that it was limited than why would they allow the puppies to be registered.

What good is it to put limited if the AKC won't honor it.

Lady of Yorkies · 09-27-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK

But if the look at the breeder records and find that it was limited than why would they allow the puppies to be registered.

What good is it to put limited if the AKC won't honor it.

I think their thinking is: "The father is not limited and the mother is AKC, so we will register the puppies."

My problem is this: if I limit the male or female and the owner breeds the dog behind my back, why should he/she get papers on the puppies. I have a good reason for limiting the registration and I will have given that reason to the new owner.

fannie · 09-28-2009, 05:10 AM

I agree that it's not right. If I want a dog to be limited, then it should be limited regardless of anything else. I'm not necessarily defending AKC, I'm just looking at it from their point of view. They are a registry. If the dogs are AKC, then they are.... regardless of anything else.

I'm not sure how we can get them to stop doing this. As a breeder, you have to be an advocate for your puppies. That's why I spay and neuter those going to pet homes before they leave. If it means holding on to them for longer, then so be it.

BamaFan121s · 09-28-2009, 05:46 AM

So then regardless to if you place your dogs with limited or full registration, it doesn't even matter?

AKC will register litters born of them anyway?

livingdustmops · 09-28-2009, 05:48 AM

It's all about the $$$$...

fannie · 09-28-2009, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

So then regardless to if you place your dogs with limited or full registration, it doesn't even matter?

AKC will register litters born of them anyway?

Their track record says yes.

Shoot, I saw on someone's website not long ago that they had a female registered with another registery. Explained that she had a different registry because she was sold to them with limited registration. And this was a breeder that people on here were recommending.

BamaFan121s · 09-28-2009, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fannie

Their track record says yes.

Shoot, I saw on someone's website not long ago that they had a female registered with another registery. Explained that she had a different registry because she was sold to them with limited registration. And this was a breeder that people on here were recommending.

Nice...well, that certainly does take away some of the AKC flouted credibility with me then.

In regards to the breeder you mentioned, it's a very underhanded thing that person did, but as for that person being recommended here...that in itself doesn't shock me. I stopped questioning things like that long ago. Sadly it seems that there are a lot of 'shady ethics' people are willing to overlook if you are a 'nice enough, likeable' member.

fannie · 09-28-2009, 06:42 AM

Yes, but considering the other alternatives for registries, I will stick with AKC. I think that we, as breeders and dog owners, need to step up to the plate and find a way to get AKC to be more credible. I think they've come a long way in the past few years since most of those articles were written. They've still got a long way to go though.

BamaFan121s · 09-28-2009, 06:48 AM

Agreed fannie...it just shows that they too, are not without flaw.

livingdustmops · 09-28-2009, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fannie

Yes, but considering the other alternatives for registries, I will stick with AKC. I think that we, as breeders and dog owners, need to step up to the plate and find a way to get AKC to be more credible. I think they've come a long way in the past few years since most of those articles were written. They've still got a long way to go though.

I agree but I think it is important for people to understand what is really going on so AKC can be held accountable. I believe they would have done more with the Hunte Corporation and had agreed too until the reputable breeders cried "FOUL" and AKC backed off. I think to many people want to believe the good in everything...from our government to our churches and we have all learned the hard way that greed is all consuming in our country right now. We must continue to get the truth out or more animals will suffer. I do want to believe in AKC but I have learned I have to believe in the breeder first.

Texas Diva · 10-01-2009, 11:10 AM

I think it goes to show all registries are really in it for the money. I think letting people do that goes against why we like AKC so much. I guess there is politics in everything.

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Originally Posted by bjh

Well, this completely blows my mind. It does not make sense to me. I am happy for you if you can get papers but this is totally unfair to all those breeders that sold pups with limited registration and withhold papers until proof of spay or neuter. Are your dogs registered with the Canadian Kennel Club or the Continental Kennel Club?

johnnagraham · 10-01-2009, 11:23 AM

Thanks for sharing such great info. There should be more YT members like you! God bless.

09-28-2009, 05:10 AM	#48
fannie Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,693	I agree that it's not right. If I want a dog to be limited, then it should be limited regardless of anything else. I'm not necessarily defending AKC, I'm just looking at it from their point of view. They are a registry. If the dogs are AKC, then they are.... regardless of anything else. I'm not sure how we can get them to stop doing this. As a breeder, you have to be an advocate for your puppies. That's why I spay and neuter those going to pet homes before they leave. If it means holding on to them for longer, then so be it. __________________ Steph, Mama to 6 skin babies and beautiful yorkies!

09-28-2009, 05:48 AM	#50
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	It's all about the $$$$... __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products!

09-28-2009, 06:42 AM	#53
fannie Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,693	Yes, but considering the other alternatives for registries, I will stick with AKC. I think that we, as breeders and dog owners, need to step up to the plate and find a way to get AKC to be more credible. I think they've come a long way in the past few years since most of those articles were written. They've still got a long way to go though. __________________ Steph, Mama to 6 skin babies and beautiful yorkies!

09-28-2009, 05:46 AM	#49
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	So then regardless to if you place your dogs with limited or full registration, it doesn't even matter? AKC will register litters born of them anyway?

09-28-2009, 06:48 AM	#54
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	Agreed fannie...it just shows that they too, are not without flaw.

10-01-2009, 11:23 AM	#57
johnnagraham Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: columbus ohio Posts: 142 Blog Entries: 2	Thanks for sharing such great info. There should be more YT members like you! God bless.