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JeanieK 09-27-2009 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fannie (Post 2817249)
Also, if you do the online record keeping, you can go in and lock the record for each puppy. Meaning, you can put in full or limited registration and regardless of what the new puppy owner tries to register it will be what you put it as unless you change it.

That doesn't stop them from going with another registry though. It also won't stop AKC from registering any puppies born from the dog if it is bred to another AKC dog.
But if the look at the breeder records and find that it was limited than why would they allow the puppies to be registered.

What good is it to put limited if the AKC won't honor it.

Lady of Yorkies 09-27-2009 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2817880)
But if the look at the breeder records and find that it was limited than why would they allow the puppies to be registered.

What good is it to put limited if the AKC won't honor it.
I think their thinking is: "The father is not limited and the mother is AKC, so we will register the puppies."

My problem is this: if I limit the male or female and the owner breeds the dog behind my back, why should he/she get papers on the puppies. I have a good reason for limiting the registration and I will have given that reason to the new owner.

fannie 09-28-2009 05:10 AM
I agree that it's not right. If I want a dog to be limited, then it should be limited regardless of anything else. I'm not necessarily defending AKC, I'm just looking at it from their point of view. They are a registry. If the dogs are AKC, then they are.... regardless of anything else.

I'm not sure how we can get them to stop doing this. As a breeder, you have to be an advocate for your puppies. That's why I spay and neuter those going to pet homes before they leave. If it means holding on to them for longer, then so be it.

BamaFan121s 09-28-2009 05:46 AM
So then regardless to if you place your dogs with limited or full registration, it doesn't even matter? :confused: AKC will register litters born of them anyway?

livingdustmops 09-28-2009 05:48 AM
It's all about the $$$$...:(

fannie 09-28-2009 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2818285)
So then regardless to if you place your dogs with limited or full registration, it doesn't even matter? :confused: AKC will register litters born of them anyway?
Their track record says yes.

Shoot, I saw on someone's website not long ago that they had a female registered with another registery. Explained that she had a different registry because she was sold to them with limited registration. And this was a breeder that people on here were recommending.

BamaFan121s 09-28-2009 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by fannie (Post 2818333)
Their track record says yes.

Shoot, I saw on someone's website not long ago that they had a female registered with another registery. Explained that she had a different registry because she was sold to them with limited registration. And this was a breeder that people on here were recommending.
Nice...well, that certainly does take away some of the AKC flouted credibility with me then. :thumbdown

In regards to the breeder you mentioned, it's a very underhanded thing that person did, but as for that person being recommended here...that in itself doesn't shock me. I stopped questioning things like that long ago. Sadly it seems that there are a lot of 'shady ethics' people are willing to overlook if you are a 'nice enough, likeable' member. :rolleyes:

fannie 09-28-2009 06:42 AM
Yes, but considering the other alternatives for registries, I will stick with AKC. I think that we, as breeders and dog owners, need to step up to the plate and find a way to get AKC to be more credible. I think they've come a long way in the past few years since most of those articles were written. They've still got a long way to go though.

BamaFan121s 09-28-2009 06:48 AM
Agreed fannie...it just shows that they too, are not without flaw.

livingdustmops 09-28-2009 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by fannie (Post 2818363)
Yes, but considering the other alternatives for registries, I will stick with AKC. I think that we, as breeders and dog owners, need to step up to the plate and find a way to get AKC to be more credible. I think they've come a long way in the past few years since most of those articles were written. They've still got a long way to go though.
I agree but I think it is important for people to understand what is really going on so AKC can be held accountable. I believe they would have done more with the Hunte Corporation and had agreed too until the reputable breeders cried "FOUL" and AKC backed off. I think to many people want to believe the good in everything...from our government to our churches and we have all learned the hard way that greed is all consuming in our country right now. We must continue to get the truth out or more animals will suffer. I do want to believe in AKC but I have learned I have to believe in the breeder first.

Texas Diva 10-01-2009 11:10 AM
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I think it goes to show all registries are really in it for the money. I think letting people do that goes against why we like AKC so much. I guess there is politics in everything.

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Originally Posted by bjh (Post 2802162)
Well, this completely blows my mind. It does not make sense to me. I am happy for you if you can get papers but this is totally unfair to all those breeders that sold pups with limited registration and withhold papers until proof of spay or neuter. Are your dogs registered with the Canadian Kennel Club or the Continental Kennel Club?

johnnagraham 10-01-2009 11:23 AM
Thanks for sharing such great info. There should be more YT members like you! God bless.


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