Corona vaccine

[tammys]

Originally Posted by LuvMySissy

There is also a pre-vaccination regimen that can be followed for vaccines more prome to causing reactions.

It is my understanding that there are many types of lepto virus out there and the vaccine only covers a very few of the strains (much like a flu shot), so vaccinating does not necessarily prevent contraction of Lepto.

That's what I understand also.

[tammys]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

My vet in Texas follows the Dr' Dodd Vaccination Protocol

As far as Bordatella, I prefer it as my dogs are show dogs and in environments where they can contract it. There is a new virus that is on the spread.

By Dagny Salas
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, August 15, 2009

Fairfax County authorities on Friday publicly confirmed at least six cases of the H3N8 virus, or canine influenza, in dogs, one of them fatal -- the first identified cases in the state.
The Fairfax County Animal Shelter shut down its kennel last week, quarantining about 26 dogs with suspected symptoms, said shelter director Karen Diviney. New dogs brought to the shelter are being held in a separate area.
Humans cannot contract the virus, commonly referred to as "dog flu," but dogs can easily catch it from each other, especially in close quarters, and it can be spread to dogs from humans who have come into contact with infected animals, officials said.
Owners are being encouraged to follow the same precautions as with strains of human influenza: Wash your hands, and do not panic.
"It's a situation where we do need to alert the public. Now it's out there, and people need to look for symptoms," said Lucy Caldwell, Fairfax police spokeswoman.
Symptoms include sneezing, lethargy, loss of appetite, coughing and wheezing, said Wanda Pool, a veterinarian at Deepwood Veterinary Clinic in Centreville. If a dog is showing these symptoms, owners are urged to contact their veterinarians for testing and possible vaccination.
The incubation period is 48 hours, meaning the virus can live on hard surfaces, hair and fabric, Pool said, adding that about 20 percent of infected dogs will not show symptoms.
Pool said about 11 dogs at Deepwood, which runs a boarding kennel as well as the veterinary clinic, suddenly came down with coughs in late July, which was unusual. Nasal swabs were taken and sent out to a lab, which confirmed canine flu in some of the cases. One of the dogs, a 15-year-old whippet owned by a clinic technician, died July 27 after contracting severe pneumonia, Pool said.
"Most dogs will be fine, just like in humans," Pool said. "A small percentage can't handle it and do get pneumonia, and it can get very severe."
The virus originated from a strain of equine influenza that mutated sometime in 2004. Since then, about 30 states have reported cases of dog flu, Pool said.

I wish our vet followed his protocol. Technically it doesn't matter, since I am giving them their vaccines myself, but it would be nice to have my personal vet back me on that.

Our dogs that go to the groomers are the ones that have gotten Bordatella. Now that we will have so many groomable dogs, I will have to learn to do it myself, so maybe we can skip that. They do go for walks, but I wonder if they can get it that way.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by LuvMySissy

There is also a pre-vaccination regimen that can be followed for vaccines more prome to causing reactions.

It is my understanding that there are many types of lepto virus out there and the vaccine only covers a very few of the strains (much like a flu shot), so vaccinating does not necessarily prevent contraction of Lepto.

A dog that has received it's full compliment of Parvo vaccinations can also contract Parvo.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by tammys

I wish our vet followed his protocol. Technically it doesn't matter, since I am giving them their vaccines myself, but it would be nice to have my personal vet back me on that.

Our dogs that go to the groomers are the ones that have gotten Bordatella. Now that we will have so many groomable dogs, I will have to learn to do it myself, so maybe we can skip that. They do go for walks, but I wonder if they can get it that way.

Most vets push vaccinations and over vaccinating as a means to obtain $$$$, never really taking into the consideration of the animal.

[smartpuppiepets]

Originally Posted by tammys

That's interesting about the ferrets. Our vet said our ferret only needed rabies...to which he had a reaction.

We ordered Univac 5 from Revival. I think all the Duramune packs (with and without Corona) came with a lot of doses and I only needed 6 of them.

I never used the univac. I know the Vanguard from Pfizer is also pretty good.

It is not too much, if you have 6 puppies and you order the 25 pack, you can keep it in your fridge for a while until it expires . If you let your puppies go at 12 weeks you will probably have the time to give 2 or maybe 3 shots... times 6 ... you only have a few left you can use to vaccinate your own dogs. just a suggestion.

Exactly what my vet said about the Merial vaccine and ferrets, that they have reactions to rabies and that one did not cause any reactions.
Now, i have no clue about ferrets , i never had any ...

XOXO

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by smartpuppiepets

I never used the univac. I know the Vanguard from Pfizer is also pretty good.

It is not too much, if you have 6 puppies and you order the 25 pack, you can keep it in your fridge for a while until it expires . If you let your puppies go at 12 weeks you will probably have the time to give 2 or maybe 3 shots... times 6 ... you only have a few left you can use to vaccinate your own dogs. just a suggestion.

Exactly what my vet said about the Merial vaccine and ferrets, that they have reactions to rabies and that one did not cause any reactions.
Now, i have no clue about ferrets , i never had any ...

XOXO

The only brand I will never use is Fort Dodge.....I know to many people that their dogs have had reactions and/or ended up with PARVO within two days to 4 days of getting the vaccine.

[tammys]

Originally Posted by smartpuppiepets

I never used the univac. I know the Vanguard from Pfizer is also pretty good.

It is not too much, if you have 6 puppies and you order the 25 pack, you can keep it in your fridge for a while until it expires . If you let your puppies go at 12 weeks you will probably have the time to give 2 or maybe 3 shots... times 6 ... you only have a few left you can use to vaccinate your own dogs. just a suggestion.

Exactly what my vet said about the Merial vaccine and ferrets, that they have reactions to rabies and that one did not cause any reactions.
Now, i have no clue about ferrets , i never had any ...

XOXO

Thanks. I am not a breeder, and we are keeping both our pups. so we only needed the 6 shots.

Yea, the poor little guy got all dizzy and threw up. Luckily it was in the vet's office, so we stayed there a while longer to make sure he was okay.

[smartpuppiepets]

Sorry i was oblivious... i forgot you only had 2 puppies...kkkk ...

You are right, 25 doses are soooo many for you.

I would ask your vet next time you stop there and see what he thinks of the Merial rabies shot. You know something, i will be back to my vet thursday , i will ask him again.

I imagine it will be a good information even to pass on to your vet . I would be nervous to give any more shots.... even if the reaction possibility is more remote.

XOXO

[tammys]

Originally Posted by smartpuppiepets

Sorry i was oblivious... i forgot you only had 2 puppies...kkkk ...

You are right, 25 doses are soooo many for you.

I would ask your vet next time you stop there and see what he thinks of the Merial rabies shot. You know something, i will be back to my vet thursday , i will ask him again.

I imagine it will be a good information even to pass on to your vet . I would be nervous to give any more shots.... even if the reaction possibility is more remote.

XOXO

LOL, that's okay. So, Merial is the brand of it? She said they give it after 16 weeks. I was thinking WAY after 16 weeks. What do you think?

I would love to know what your vet says. Absolutely. People and animals are so over-vaccinated, and we know it's all for the $$$.

[smartpuppiepets]

For the yorkies we give rabies after 20 weeks, here in my state it is required by law that they have it by 6 months old. my vet is like me, he does not like to over do . He usually recommends wait past 20 weeks although he says it is safe to do it at 12 weeks. A lot depends on the size of the puppy , if it is a small tiny one he will say:"ohhh hummmm why dont we wait a couple more weeks, but if you want we can do it today..." then i know , he prefers to wait.
I will ask him again about the ferrets... i got curious my self. I remember well , we were talking about brands and prices, he told me that he had switched to the "merial" brands because he did have many ferrets and they are prone to have reactions and he had no reactions since he had switched. We were also discussing the 3 year rabies instead of one year. By the time i was not aware that was the same shot, and legislation passed here allows you to have the rabies done every 3 years if you do the first time, then the second can not be longer than one year apart... then he can validate it for 3 years and so on... it sounds confusing huh...
Anyways, by the time we had the ferret talk i was thinking the 3 year rabies was different from the one year one... and that was years ago.
My vet treats me different i know. He does not recommend me to give too many shots, lepto is a no-no, gyardia vaccine he finds it non-effective, no corona, lime disease he only gives to people living near the woods as we have "deer" , lots of them...
I am sure it all depends on how one talks to their vet too. I remember we use to disagree a lot, me and my vet...kkk... now we developed a trust and a relationship. I changed my ways and so did he... we both compromised and learn from each other i think.

XOXO