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07-18-2009, 04:31 AM | #16 | |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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Revival Animal Health - Oral Cal Plus #60210-493 new product from revival, same as calsorb with out the nasty taste, does not make them vomit. If you must give calsorb, put it on your finger, and rub in bitches mouth, gums, inside of mouth, underneath tongue, then follow with nutrical, don’t just squirt a blob in their mouth. Even if they throw up, it HAS absorbed (not 100%.. but a lot) because the bloodstream picks it up immediately through the mouth..it does not have to be digested to work. Give calsorb or Oral Cal Plus if bitch is exhibiting signs of eclampsia. Some signs are very subtle. My bitch would dig like crazy when I took her outside, then try to climb up the side of the wall of the house…that was her first sign she was going south for me.. and we’d treat with calsorb immediately. Anything “odd” should be taken as a sign…especially, panting, pacing, restless behavior etc… understanding of course that bitches pant after delivery anyways for a few days. Okay to hold it at bay, so it never comes at all… forget everything about giving tums, cottage cheese, cheese, icecream.. etc. It’s useless. The body needs the calcium to be delivered with the correct ratio of Vit D and Phosphorus or it doesn’t absorb it, it’s useless. Pet Cal has this correct ratio. Another thing that has it is, believe it or not.. a scrambled whole egg! Of course everyone knows not to start calcium until the litter is whelped.. no giving it to PG bitches… I do give some calsorb during whelping If things slow down on a larger litter, but never before whelping. Make it a general practice to scramble your bitch an egg every day, and depending on weight, give ½ to a whole pet tab per day. I gave it to a 8 lb bitch ½ in the morning ½ at night…this is the “daily dose” for about a 20 lb dog who was NOT nursing a litter…so just fine for ½ the size, but nursing a litter. I would grind up the pet tab in the food processor and put the powder in the egg when I scrambled it. Also, check your dog food for Soybeans, soy protein, or anything related to soy in any way. For SOME reason that is not completely understood by me (many menopause supplements contain soy, or are soy based, so this seems to be a contradiction).. soy protein can interfere with the absorption of calcium in dogs. If your food has soy of any sort, change to a food that does not for the duration of the weaning of the litter.
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07-18-2009, 04:47 AM | #17 |
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| I agree about the soy, I avoid any dog products that have any form of soy in them. I also won't eat any human products with soy. To learn more just google 'dangers of soy'. Here is just one link that talks about soy: The Golden Goat, llc: Dangers of Soy Consumption For a calcium supplement, I really like the Doc Roy's Healthy Bones sold at Revival. My females like them much better than the Pet Cal. Mary, do you ever give pups additional calcium during the weaning process? Like grinding up a calcium supplement and adding to the food? I never have but wonder if it would help when ears are going up and down. |
07-18-2009, 04:49 AM | #18 | |
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However, I order it either through RevivalAnimal or Dr's Foster & Smith or Omaha Vets, much cheaper that way and have plenty on hand. As soon as they are born, cleaned, stable and before I put them to mother's breast, I administer a half tube (they are small) of Benebac. As I begin whelping I do the same. But, by that time they are big enough for a whole tube. I've never had lose stools, lil stomachs adjust easier. I use benebac whenever my furkids have had a bout of dirreah and been on antibiotics.
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07-18-2009, 04:56 AM | #19 | |
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You know I've wondered that too. Expecially when a pup is a larger boy and they have the testicle and teeth thing going on. I know that once Mrs. G had a boy she was showing, a pup (6 or 7 months of age). Ears were a bit floppy and she administered Calcium prior to a show.....ears would stand up perfectly. It's something I need to discuss with her and our vet in Dallas.
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07-18-2009, 11:46 AM | #21 |
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| Spoke to Mrs G on the calcium. She'd really never considered it, but said it was worth a conversation with our vet in Dallas. She stated that she felt it would have to be administered in small doses and not for any great length of time, as the dangers of causing kidney stones exists.
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I was just doing a comparison between the Pet-Cal and the Doc Roy's Healthy Bones. Here are the ingredients of the Pet-Cal: Quote:
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I give my females nursing females 1/2 tablet twice a day. | |||
07-18-2009, 12:35 PM | #23 | |
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