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Originally Posted by smartpuppiepets  "Soy is a calcium leach....something you never give a nursing mom as it can bring on eclampsia, you can lose your mom that way."
What you mean a calcium "leach"???? I never heard of it before...
And we use the soy milk... not any other type of soy for years and we never had eclampsia... i am actually from a family of breeders and Grandma , mother.. aunts... all breeders... over 45 years of breeding experience! Different breeds and never heard of it before/
If you do not mind i would love to hear more explanation on your opinion...
I take things as living and learning , but the vet i mentioned is from Israel and during a very interesting conversation the subject came up and she mentioned that they also use soy milk and the "ensure" at her practice ... so i am very curious about your input ! |
I'm on a list of long time yorkie exhibitor breeders that discuss all aspects of showing/breeding etc. In addition, I have a vet that is a canine repro/nutrition specialists.
Revival Animal Health - Oral Cal Plus #60210-493
new product from revival, same as calsorb with out the nasty taste, does not make them vomit.
If you must give calsorb, put it on your finger, and rub in bitches mouth, gums, inside of mouth, underneath tongue, then follow with nutrical, don’t just squirt a blob in their mouth. Even if they throw up, it HAS absorbed (not 100%.. but a lot) because the bloodstream picks it up immediately through the mouth..it does not have to be digested to work. Give calsorb or Oral Cal Plus if bitch is exhibiting signs of eclampsia. Some signs are very subtle. My bitch would dig like crazy when I took her outside, then try to climb up the side of the wall of the house…that was her first sign she was going south for me.. and we’d treat with calsorb immediately. Anything “odd” should be taken as a sign…especially, panting, pacing, restless behavior etc… understanding of course that bitches pant after delivery anyways for a few days.
Okay to hold it at bay, so it never comes at all… forget everything about giving tums, cottage cheese, cheese, icecream.. etc. It’s useless. The body needs the calcium to be delivered with the correct ratio of Vit D and Phosphorus or it doesn’t absorb it, it’s useless. Pet Cal has this correct ratio. Another thing that has it is, believe it or not.. a scrambled whole egg! Of course everyone knows not to start calcium until the litter is whelped.. no giving it to PG bitches… I do give some calsorb during whelping If things slow down on a larger litter, but never before whelping. Make it a general practice to scramble your bitch an egg every day, and depending on weight, give ½ to a whole pet tab per day. I gave it to a 8 lb bitch ½ in the morning ½ at night…this is the “daily dose” for about a 20 lb dog who was NOT nursing a litter…so just fine for ½ the size, but nursing a litter. I would grind up the pet tab in the food processor and put the powder in the egg when I scrambled it.
Also, check your dog food for Soybeans, soy protein, or anything related to soy in any way. For SOME reason that is not completely understood by me (many menopause supplements contain soy, or are soy based, so this seems to be a contradiction).. soy protein can interfere with the absorption of calcium in dogs. If your food has soy of any sort, change to a food that does not for the duration of the weaning of the litter.