Originally Posted by FlDebra (Post 2704059)

I see some wrong on each side too. I think it is very difficult to sell internationally unless affiliated with a dog club of some kind that could have members on both sides to vouch for the seller and buyer.

I think they are saying different things about her accepting a different puppy as one of the two she chose died and the other was too tiny to ship out for possible breeding. He said: "and because I´m very responsable persons I sent to Peggy my own puppy that one which I was choose for to keep for my self , I explain that to her and she was agree and happy with the new girl , "

The 2 pound puppy is only 18 weeks old. She might make it up to 5 pounds, although it will probably be more like 3 pounds, so you are right, no one should have sold or bought her as a breeding prospect. If no one wants her, send her to me! :)

I think if the buyer was unhappy with her first purchase, she would not hjave gone through all of the trouble to buy another puppy from an out-of-country seller. I think if the seller was that unhappy with the buyer on the first purchase, he should not have thought she was improving enough to sell her another. So, they must not have been that unhappy with each other on the male purchase. It was with this little female, bad feelings developed. Why? Is it because she is a different female than originally picked? Not as pretty as the first ones? Too little to breed? Why now is the seller mad? Did he not know that she was mixing breeds? Did he not know that she was wanting to breed this female?

Too many questions for me to even think about taking sides. I do think the buyer should get his pictures off her ads immediately. You do not steal pictures and use them without permission. If he was local to the her, it would be easy to sue her and take a percentage of every sale she makes with his pictures!

I think the seller should not sell anymore dogs until he can have a good reference from the people's vet and maybe for sales to the U.S. like this, require a YTCA member to vouch for them.

Unfortunately this sale is done, and there is probably little to be done. The buyer is only going to return the puppy if he pays for everything and that is probably going to be a huge expense for the seller. This is unfortunate because the seller's dogs look gorgeous! To have one even that has to be spayed for being too small to breed would be an honor.

Originally Posted by FlDebra (Post 2704102)

I just typed about the same thing. I think I am typing while you are posting. Fair to say the dog will grow! Only being 18 weeks old, she should grow quite a bit yet. She may very well make it to 4 pounds.

I will bet she has the potential to be beautiful. Maybe you two should agree to sell her to me instead of paying for all of that shipping!

Originally Posted by javier2905 (Post 2704095)

Hi Debra , I just can let you know which the female which i sent to this woman Peggy Rogers will be more beautifull than those dogs in my pics , because she will have the same coat , and her face is a dream , She is a daugther of Nuria of Blue Point and my New Show Prospect California Wild´s Emperador I ( you can see those dogs in my website ), but unfortunally this female is not in the right hands so for sure she never will have the same coat , and she will look just like a little ugly dog in Peggy´s hands .

Originally Posted by peggynitro (Post 2704120)

ANSWERS: Pretty LEVEL HEADED analysis of the situation (IMO)
(my side again) to answer you is that "yes" he knew I wanted to breed and probably why I had full registration papers with both dogs that he did send. He knew I was mixing and this is why we spoke about a 5# (est.) female. In fact, I still have a "mix". Her name is Maddy and she's a Shorkie. She's 15 weeks and just 1.5 lbs. I don't care for HUGE lap type dogs that would be 10+ pounds. Now would I ever be insane enough to put a 10 lb male with a 3 lb female. Not in my character.

The Seller is mad because the lady (Susan) that paid like $6000-$7000 for a dog is mad because I put up photos of the Sire to the dog I own. She complains to him and now he is complaining to me (because of her). Anyway, I have written permission and lots of email proof about many of his complaints to PuppyFind about me. There is a request from Javier about the "Review" I wrote and Mr. Coronol has asked that my review be deleted from his file. This all will take several weeks to resolve (according to PuppyFind Staff) but I think I have my bases pretty well covered. We'll see though. Peggy

Originally Posted by FlDebra (Post 2704088)

Since the dog is only 18 weeks old, I think it is fair to say you are exaggerating since the dog will no longer be 2 lb 4 oz when it is 18-24 months old and breeding age. It may still be underweight for breeding but it probably WILL NOT still be a 2 pounder.

How long have you had her?

Originally Posted by peggynitro (Post 2704077)

You're so full of yourself. And you don't tell the truth either. Go ahead, look at puppyFind and just see how many dogs I have. Does 6 ring any bells up there? Now...lets see, there's either 12 or 15 dogs to a page. That'd definately mean I'd have pages upon pages of dogs. You and Javier related? My Gosh! Go away!

I do have 4 males with Brazil and Argenina lines, your correct. Give me a break. Don't come on here and start stirring up things that you don't have one IOTA what you're talking about.

Originally Posted by peggynitro (Post 2704136)

So you're telling me 4lbs then is okay to breed her????

My male is 4 lbs. I couldn't imagine impregnanting something that small. Is it safe?

Originally Posted by topknot (Post 2704267)

Yes, something to learn on both sides!



Forgot to add in last post: Weight - can never guarantee it. One never knows what they will weigh until they are fully grown.