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karak333 · 06-28-2009, 03:07 PM

I have done a lot of research before doing this and my little girl is almost 2 so I figure now would be a good time. anyways, she is in her 13th day of her heat and I bred her yesterday and today and I will try again tomorrow. the problem is that the male is not tying with her. he always ties outside of her. I have been holding his but so that it won't slip out and I have been able to hold it for atleast 3-5 minutes. also, is it normal for a lot of liquid to come out of her after he comes out? any advice on them not tying? also, how long do you usually have to wait until you can tell if they are pregnant? any advice would be greatly appreciated. I am soooo excited!!
thanks

Mardelin · 06-28-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by karak333

I have done a lot of research before doing this and my little girl is almost 2 so I figure now would be a good time. anyways, she is in her 13th day of her heat and I bred her yesterday and today and I will try again tomorrow. the problem is that the male is not tying with her. he always ties outside of her. I have been holding his but so that it won't slip out and I have been able to hold it for atleast 3-5 minutes. also, is it normal for a lot of liquid to come out of her after he comes out? any advice on them not tying? also, how long do you usually have to wait until you can tell if they are pregnant? any advice would be greatly appreciated. I am soooo excited!!
thanks

Evidently, he is not penetrating her completely, allowing her to contract her muscles to keep him in place. However, it's not necessary to have a tie for breeding to be successful. All that is needed is the first bit of the ejaculated semen to accomplish a successful breeding. However, it is best to skip a day between breeding. It allows the males sperm to build up.

Now do you say this is the 13 day of her first showing color, or when you first noticed swealing?

luckylady · 06-28-2009, 04:34 PM

I just finished breeding my two yorkies about 2 weeks ago. It was their first time and mine also (as far as being a part of the actual breeding process). I had a litter with a different female a couple of years ago, that time my female went to a stud for breeding.

Like you, our first attempts resulted in outside ties for what seemed like just seconds; certainly not 3-5 minutes like you described, so you've done better than me there. But starting on about day 12 or 13 it was a whole different story. My female was MUCH more receptive to my male (totally standing for him) and my male was even more eager & crazy in wanting my female than he was before! We had a total of 3 successful 5-10 minutes ties (no, not all in one day). I really think that she was not quite "ready" before those days, resulting in the outside ties. Maybe that is what's happening with your pair too.

Now the wait and see game begins. Ooooo, I hate this part! I drive myself (and my female probably) crazy checking her belly every day for any tiny change.

If I remember correctly from the pregnancy 2 years ago, I think I highly suspected that my girl was PG 3-4 weeks after the first tie. Her nipples were prominent and her belly felt a bit firmer. At about the time I was pretty sure, we were able to take her in for palpitation and the vet confirmed the pregnancy.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU!

karak333 · 06-28-2009, 06:01 PM

well hopefully from what ya'll said, she will get pregnant from what I have been doing. ya'll think it is too early? I actually thought it was getting too late. I am counting the days from when she started bleeding.

YorkieFanatic98 · 07-05-2009, 10:44 AM

The question she had about the liquid comign out of her after a tie was my same issue, I assume its normal- she is a little stretched out & cant keep ALLLL that liquid inside of her, can someone confirm if that liquid was ok?!?

bjh · 07-05-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieFanatic98

The question she had about the liquid comign out of her after a tie was my same issue, I assume its normal- she is a little stretched out & cant keep ALLLL that liquid inside of her, can someone confirm if that liquid was ok?!?

The liquid coming out is the semen. It is perfectly normal for it to come out when the tie breaks or when you have been holding the male in place.

mimimomo · 07-05-2009, 11:16 AM

Mimi was Artificially Inseminated...I had to hold her rear up for about a minute so the semen won't spill out. Then, I had to walk her back & forth & prevent her from peeing or pooing...but she always does one or the other. lol

Hope that helps.

fannie · 07-05-2009, 03:41 PM

It certainly could be that she's not ready yet. However, I have a couple girls that are ready as early as day 7 and some that aren't ready until day 15 or so. It depends on the particular dog. And yes, the liquid is quite normal.

Depending on the size and fitness level of your female, the time will vary on when you'll be able to tell if she is bred or not. As in, visibly showing. Usually around 4 - 6 weeks as a general rule. Some you can see within a couple weeks looking a bit swollen. And then there are some that you can't even tell that they are bred at all.

Since this is her first litter (and your's as well), it's a good idea to take her for an x-ray about 1 week before she is due. Then you will have a general idea of how big the puppies are, how they are situated and how many she'll have. I say general because x-rays aren't 100% correct. I've never had one right about the number of puppies they were having. And, they can change their position before they are whelped. They definitely do help if you aren't sure if she's bred or not. You have to wait until atleast 10 days before they are due so they will show up on the x-ray.

gloriajean · 07-07-2009, 09:01 AM

You can get an ultrasound done around day 35 or so. my vet charges $25.00 sometimes I get one done just to see if they are pregnant or not. It's been wrong before on the number of puppies espically if you wait pass the 35 days.
good luck keep in touch

luckylady · 07-07-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gloriajean

You can get an ultrasound done around day 35 or so. my vet charges $25.00 sometimes I get one done just to see if they are pregnant or not. It's been wrong before on the number of puppies espically if you wait pass the 35 days.
good luck keep in touch

Only $25 dollars for an ultrasound???? That's amazingly cheap if it wasn't a typo. Almost worth the trip from here to there to get it done! LOL JK

Wrenee4 · 07-07-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gloriajean

You can get an ultrasound done around day 35 or so. my vet charges $25.00 sometimes I get one done just to see if they are pregnant or not. It's been wrong before on the number of puppies espically if you wait pass the 35 days.
good luck keep in touch

Gosh I want your vet!!

scrapindee · 07-07-2009, 05:19 PM

me too. Ultrasounds cost around $50 here--for a black & white two dimensional.

06-28-2009, 03:07 PM	#1
karak333 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Houston, tx Posts: 103	Need some help with breeding first time! I have done a lot of research before doing this and my little girl is almost 2 so I figure now would be a good time. anyways, she is in her 13th day of her heat and I bred her yesterday and today and I will try again tomorrow. the problem is that the male is not tying with her. he always ties outside of her. I have been holding his but so that it won't slip out and I have been able to hold it for atleast 3-5 minutes. also, is it normal for a lot of liquid to come out of her after he comes out? any advice on them not tying? also, how long do you usually have to wait until you can tell if they are pregnant? any advice would be greatly appreciated. I am soooo excited!! thanks

06-28-2009, 04:34 PM	#3
luckylady Living My Yorkie Dream Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 6,114 Blog Entries: 6	I just finished breeding my two yorkies about 2 weeks ago. It was their first time and mine also (as far as being a part of the actual breeding process). I had a litter with a different female a couple of years ago, that time my female went to a stud for breeding. Like you, our first attempts resulted in outside ties for what seemed like just seconds; certainly not 3-5 minutes like you described, so you've done better than me there. But starting on about day 12 or 13 it was a whole different story. My female was MUCH more receptive to my male (totally standing for him) and my male was even more eager & crazy in wanting my female than he was before! We had a total of 3 successful 5-10 minutes ties (no, not all in one day). I really think that she was not quite "ready" before those days, resulting in the outside ties. Maybe that is what's happening with your pair too. Now the wait and see game begins. Ooooo, I hate this part! I drive myself (and my female probably) crazy checking her belly every day for any tiny change. If I remember correctly from the pregnancy 2 years ago, I think I highly suspected that my girl was PG 3-4 weeks after the first tie. Her nipples were prominent and her belly felt a bit firmer. At about the time I was pretty sure, we were able to take her in for palpitation and the vet confirmed the pregnancy. GOOD LUCK TO YOU! __________________ Rose Lucky,Toby, Hannah,Camie, & Reggie Heartland Biewers and Yorkies

06-28-2009, 06:01 PM	#4
karak333 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Houston, tx Posts: 103	thanks for the advice well hopefully from what ya'll said, she will get pregnant from what I have been doing. ya'll think it is too early? I actually thought it was getting too late. I am counting the days from when she started bleeding.

07-05-2009, 11:16 AM	#7
mimimomo Don't Litter Spay&Neuter Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 9,874	Mimi was Artificially Inseminated...I had to hold her rear up for about a minute so the semen won't spill out. Then, I had to walk her back & forth & prevent her from peeing or pooing...but she always does one or the other. lol Hope that helps. __________________ Jenny Mimi Momo Princess Turbo Madan Pin Brush: www.toplinepet.com

07-05-2009, 03:41 PM	#8
fannie Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,693	It certainly could be that she's not ready yet. However, I have a couple girls that are ready as early as day 7 and some that aren't ready until day 15 or so. It depends on the particular dog. And yes, the liquid is quite normal. Depending on the size and fitness level of your female, the time will vary on when you'll be able to tell if she is bred or not. As in, visibly showing. Usually around 4 - 6 weeks as a general rule. Some you can see within a couple weeks looking a bit swollen. And then there are some that you can't even tell that they are bred at all. Since this is her first litter (and your's as well), it's a good idea to take her for an x-ray about 1 week before she is due. Then you will have a general idea of how big the puppies are, how they are situated and how many she'll have. I say general because x-rays aren't 100% correct. I've never had one right about the number of puppies they were having. And, they can change their position before they are whelped. They definitely do help if you aren't sure if she's bred or not. You have to wait until atleast 10 days before they are due so they will show up on the x-ray. __________________ Steph, Mama to 6 skin babies and beautiful yorkies!

07-05-2009, 10:44 AM	#5
YorkieFanatic98 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 12	The question she had about the liquid comign out of her after a tie was my same issue, I assume its normal- she is a little stretched out & cant keep ALLLL that liquid inside of her, can someone confirm if that liquid was ok?!?

07-07-2009, 09:01 AM	#9
gloriajean YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 460	ultrasound You can get an ultrasound done around day 35 or so. my vet charges $25.00 sometimes I get one done just to see if they are pregnant or not. It's been wrong before on the number of puppies espically if you wait pass the 35 days. good luck keep in touch

07-07-2009, 05:19 PM	#12
scrapindee Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Redlands Posts: 4,842 Blog Entries: 2	me too. Ultrasounds cost around $50 here--for a black & white two dimensional. __________________ Scrapindee--Team Furry & the Biewers www.houseofwags.com