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04-22-2009, 07:59 AM | #1 |
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| UPDATE: On C-Section puppies Mama is still acting like the babies are aliens. Won't stay near them if I am not holding her down and the babies must feel alienated because they won't try to nurse on her. I bottle fed them some goats milk last night, about 3 times and then I had to have some sleep. Mama wasn't having anything to do with them and I was afraid that they might get chilled so I put them in with the other new mama. The babies kept their distance while I watched but I have a heat lamp on them and that mama doesn't have a problem keeping them clean so I went to sleep. When I got up, I was afraid I'd find 3 dead puppies but they seem fine. I have not caught them nursing but this mama has 4 babies of her own so it is hard to see who is nursing and who is not but all 7 of the babies cuddle up to her. I take that as a good sign. Sylvia |
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04-22-2009, 09:57 AM | #2 |
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| I would make sure the 'new babies' get a chance alone at someone's teats. If you are going to allow the other to nurse those babies, take the real babies to away for a few minutes so the new babies can get a chance to get used to sucking. If the mom does end up nursing them all then make sure her diet is awesome, that's a lot of extra babies. You may find that the alien mom gets into it in a few days, maybe not, I would call the vet and see if they have suggestions about how to get her to bond with her babies better. It is a weird situation but thankfully you have another nursing mom that is into it right now! Keep us posted, this is interresting to me.
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04-22-2009, 11:53 AM | #3 |
Izzy's Momma Too! Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stuart, Florida
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| I'm not a breeder, but I have read here alot. I remember reading that if you force mom to nurse the puppies, that it releases the nurturing hormones and she'll naturally take to motherhood.
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04-22-2009, 01:14 PM | #4 |
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| Are these two litters close in age? I have let some of my mommas help raise pups from other litters with no problem but you have to be sure the pups are nursing. I totally agree with Rosiegirl that you have to make sure these new pups are able to attach. Even if you have to supplement them I know it will be a great help to have a momma that can clean them and cuddle them. I pray the babies do well. |
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04-22-2009, 01:47 PM | #6 |
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| Yes, but I am afraid to try to express any milk from her teats as the staples they used to close her incision are so close. I am afraid of hurting her and the babies don't seem interested, so I think I need to try to get the milk on the end of her teats. Sylvia |
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04-22-2009, 02:05 PM | #9 |
Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member | i think you should really try to get the pups to nurse off their real mother to get the colostrum from her. some people put karo or nutrical or something like that on the nipples to get the pups to start nursing and they need to hold the mom in place to let the pups nurse. i'd do it just to get them the colostrum, if after a few time she still doesn't let them nurse and she doesn't take care of them then i'd let the other moms take care of them if they don't mind and everyone is happy and healthy
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04-22-2009, 02:14 PM | #10 | |
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04-22-2009, 02:38 PM | #11 |
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| My runt had a little trouble until I tried a drop of karo syrup on mom's teat, he was then able to latch on and has done fine ever since. You are lucky you have some extra mom's lying around.
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04-22-2009, 05:54 PM | #12 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member | I had to hold my mom down and make her nurse. After about 3 days insticts kicked in and she was a wonderful mom. I would not put them on another mom until last resort. I would be afraid the real mom would reject all together. I feed mine with a dropper until mom came around.
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04-22-2009, 05:59 PM | #13 |
Dogs Rule Cats Drool! Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tennessee
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| Lexie wouldnt have anything to do with the puppies after a c-section, the next day you couldn't pry her off them. I really think it was the drugs they gave her for the C-section. Good Luck sounds like your getting great advise.
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04-22-2009, 09:24 PM | #14 | |
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Before you ask I have 5 mamas running around here and NO we don't have any problems with possesiveness. I do have the babies in their own areas so that they don't get mixed up with the others but there has been no problems with them. The babies range in age from 6 weeks down to these that were just born yesterday. Last edited by Lady of Yorkies; 04-22-2009 at 09:28 PM. | |
04-23-2009, 08:48 AM | #15 |
Dogs Rule Cats Drool! Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tennessee
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| I am so glad she is responding finally keep us update and can't wait to see pics(you could show us all of them you know) Love puppies!
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