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inabowbina · 01-20-2009, 09:50 AM

she is now advertising that puppies are ready to go home on valentines day hmm yea right if anyone is buying a dog for valentines day just be careful i thought i was but you just never know.

carmengamble · 01-20-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by YoRkiE Te aMo

First i would NEVER buy a pet over the internet withouit actually seeing the pet...Thats silly especially if u do not know this person...
Second..i would go get the pet
and take the pet ith me on the flight in the cabin NOT CARGO for such a little one...

I would save myself more greivances and Plant my Ass at the breeder to get the dog or the money...

I've heard many wonderful stories of people purchasing their dogs off of the internet. I have also heard of many scams. I wouldn't say that buying off of the internet is completely out of the question, you just have to take extra precautions.

I hope you get your situation sorted out soon! Keep us informed

carmen in nj · 01-20-2009, 10:25 AM

I bought my daughter's silky terrier online and I have to say it was a very nice and pleasant experience, but I did research the breeder very well, also I paid thru Paypal with my credit card, just to protect me, if anything was wrong with the pup I could always reverse the charges and file a claim with paypal.. I also took the pup to the vet the monday after she arrived, she flew home American cargo, I also made sure it was in the fall and when is NOT too hot or too cold she flew all the way from Missouri to Newark NJ, she arrived on saturday afternoon. buying online can be a very tricky way of shopping you have to take all the measurements to protect yourself, but then again is like catalog shopping is always a risk...Best of luck with your situation, hope you can resolve it soon..
hugs,
CAmren in nj

Nancy1999 · 01-20-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by carmengamble

I've heard many wonderful stories of people purchasing their dogs off of the internet. I have also heard of many scams. I wouldn't say that buying off of the internet is completely out of the question, you just have to take extra precautions.

I hope you get your situation sorted out soon! Keep us informed

Many people now are informed that buying a dog from a pet store is always a bad idea. Dealers have had to go elsewhere to sell their dogs, and the Internet is the perfect place. Many puppy brokers have multiple websites that appeal to different people, with some of the same pictures on each site. They are not going to tell you that they are a puppy mill, or backyard breeder, but that's what they are. A good breeder NEVER sells her dogs over a website, they may have websites, but they don't sell their dogs through them. If you do not check out the breeders home and kennel in person, you are condoning the suffering of thousands of dogs in puppy mills. We can pass all the laws you like, but the consumer has to check for himself whether the breeder is lying. I definitely would try to get my money back. For what you pay extra for the flight, you could probably get a wonderful dog locally.

MauiGirl · 01-20-2009, 10:37 AM

I am sorry you have to start your hopeful Yorkie ownership with so much stress and disappointment. It sure puts a damper on what should be a happy time.

Have you asked her for the name of the vet? You may be call the vet and find out something about the pup (if he exists) or the breeder.

Would you want to put the breeders name and location on YT in case one of the members here lives near her and can check things out for you? Members here also know how to find out if breeders are legitimate.

Do you have an actual signed contract or written receipt stating the conditions of the sale?

What is the present age and weight of this pup? I personally would be very concerned about sending any pup on a flight, especially during the freezing weather you are having now.

YoRkiE Te aMo · 01-20-2009, 10:40 AM

Yes to me it is an irresponsible buyer to buy on the internet..there are so many scams and how could u trust a stranger that u are getting a healthy pup if u have not seen where it came from ? how healthy are the parents of the pup..
To me u are just asking for a problem in this type of circumstance..
This is just my opinion and I would not want to be in this situation, so i would avoid it for myself..

I know many very reputable breeders sell their pups and retired show dogs for a very reasonable price to the right homes..
as their interest is in the dogs well being and getting a good home, not really the money ...

YoRkiE Te aMo · 01-20-2009, 10:45 AM

did u check this list in the sticky before ur dealing with this breeder :
AKC suspension index
maybe u could find them there ?
and decide what to do ....

Nancy1999 · 01-20-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by YoRkiE Te aMo

did u check this list in the sticky before ur dealing with this breeder :
AKC suspension index
maybe u could find them there ?
and decide what to do ....

The list is helpful, but it's just a tiny tiny percentage of the poor breeders. You really have to do something horrible to be on the list.

bchgirl · 01-20-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MauiGirl

What is the present age and weight of this pup? I personally would be very concerned about sending any pup on a flight, especially during the freezing weather you are having now.

Actually airlines won't ship an animal if the temperature is below 45 degrees at any location on the itinerary.

inabowbina · 01-20-2009, 11:06 AM

no i did not check that i dont see anything on it though. the puppy is almost a pound she told me he needed to be atleast a pound to fly.

scrapindee · 01-20-2009, 11:07 AM

I wish you a lot of luck to resolve this.

I have met many folks being on line. I have my buyers checked every which way I can, and expect them to do the same for me. So far, we have met almost everyone of our buyers face-to-face, when they come pick up their puppy at the airport or at my home.

So I guess, if that is the puppy you want, go and get it.

YoRkiE Te aMo · 01-20-2009, 11:18 AM

*** I have met many folks being on line. I have my buyers checked every which way I can, and expect them to do the same for me. So far, we have met almost everyone of our buyers face-to-face, when they come pick up their puppy at the airport or at my home. ***

this is what i mean if u are a responsible breeder ..u want to know where ur little one is going and same with the buyer u want to know where the pup or pet came from ...
not only that ..if u are looking for one for u to love..
when u go see the pups there is a magnetizm that occurs when u actually see the right one.. i know i saw a lot of pups before we bought and got the one right for us...

with the internet they can post a photo of a pup u may not get at all...
i read about that here ..someone got a pup that did not look like the photo at all...
Just a HUGE RISK too me not too mention the heartache it would cause !

Nancy1999 · 01-20-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by inabowbina

no i did not check that i dont see anything on it though. the puppy is almost a pound she told me he needed to be atleast a pound to fly.

A pound seems very small to fly, the minimum age is 12 weeks, but some breeders keep them longer if they are this small. They would never consider flying a dog this small, hypoglycemia is too big of a risk. Something's very fishy.

YoRkiE Te aMo · 01-20-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999

A pound seems very small to fly, the minimum age is 12 weeks, but some breeders keep them longer if they are this small. They would never consider flying a dog this small, hypoglycemia is too big of a risk. Something's very fishy.

this sounds insane to me ....never mind fishy !

Nancy1999 · 01-20-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by YoRkiE Te aMo

this sounds insane to me ....never mind fishy !

You're right!

01-20-2009, 10:25 AM	#18
carmen in nj Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hopatcong, NJ, USA Posts: 4,615 Blog Entries: 74	I bought my daughter's silky terrier online and I have to say it was a very nice and pleasant experience, but I did research the breeder very well, also I paid thru Paypal with my credit card, just to protect me, if anything was wrong with the pup I could always reverse the charges and file a claim with paypal.. I also took the pup to the vet the monday after she arrived, she flew home American cargo, I also made sure it was in the fall and when is NOT too hot or too cold she flew all the way from Missouri to Newark NJ, she arrived on saturday afternoon. buying online can be a very tricky way of shopping you have to take all the measurements to protect yourself, but then again is like catalog shopping is always a risk...Best of luck with your situation, hope you can resolve it soon.. hugs, CAmren in nj __________________ My Etsy shop is OPEN... Carmen in nj

01-20-2009, 10:37 AM	#20
MauiGirl Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 7,740	I am sorry you have to start your hopeful Yorkie ownership with so much stress and disappointment. It sure puts a damper on what should be a happy time. Have you asked her for the name of the vet? You may be call the vet and find out something about the pup (if he exists) or the breeder. Would you want to put the breeders name and location on YT in case one of the members here lives near her and can check things out for you? Members here also know how to find out if breeders are legitimate. Do you have an actual signed contract or written receipt stating the conditions of the sale? What is the present age and weight of this pup? I personally would be very concerned about sending any pup on a flight, especially during the freezing weather you are having now. __________________ SANDY, MOM TO TIKI , KAYLA , KARLEE , R.I.P. MEIKA

01-20-2009, 11:07 AM	#26
scrapindee Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Redlands Posts: 4,842 Blog Entries: 2	I wish you a lot of luck to resolve this. I have met many folks being on line. I have my buyers checked every which way I can, and expect them to do the same for me. So far, we have met almost everyone of our buyers face-to-face, when they come pick up their puppy at the airport or at my home. So I guess, if that is the puppy you want, go and get it. __________________ Scrapindee--Team Furry & the Biewers www.houseofwags.com

01-20-2009, 09:50 AM	#16
inabowbina YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: illinois Posts: 253 Blog Entries: 3	she is now advertising that puppies are ready to go home on valentines day hmm yea right if anyone is buying a dog for valentines day just be careful i thought i was but you just never know.

01-20-2009, 10:40 AM	#21
YoRkiE Te aMo YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto, Ont. Canada Posts: 421	Yes to me it is an irresponsible buyer to buy on the internet..there are so many scams and how could u trust a stranger that u are getting a healthy pup if u have not seen where it came from ? how healthy are the parents of the pup.. To me u are just asking for a problem in this type of circumstance.. This is just my opinion and I would not want to be in this situation, so i would avoid it for myself.. I know many very reputable breeders sell their pups and retired show dogs for a very reasonable price to the right homes.. as their interest is in the dogs well being and getting a good home, not really the money ...

01-20-2009, 10:45 AM	#22
YoRkiE Te aMo YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto, Ont. Canada Posts: 421	did u check this list in the sticky before ur dealing with this breeder : AKC suspension index maybe u could find them there ? and decide what to do ....

01-20-2009, 11:06 AM	#25
inabowbina YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: illinois Posts: 253 Blog Entries: 3	no i did not check that i dont see anything on it though. the puppy is almost a pound she told me he needed to be atleast a pound to fly.

01-20-2009, 11:18 AM	#27
YoRkiE Te aMo YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto, Ont. Canada Posts: 421	* I have met many folks being on line. I have my buyers checked every which way I can, and expect them to do the same for me. So far, we have met almost everyone of our buyers face-to-face, when they come pick up their puppy at the airport or at my home. * this is what i mean if u are a responsible breeder ..u want to know where ur little one is going and same with the buyer u want to know where the pup or pet came from ... not only that ..if u are looking for one for u to love.. when u go see the pups there is a magnetizm that occurs when u actually see the right one.. i know i saw a lot of pups before we bought and got the one right for us... with the internet they can post a photo of a pup u may not get at all... i read about that here ..someone got a pup that did not look like the photo at all... Just a HUGE RISK too me not too mention the heartache it would cause !