Day 62 and I am really on the fence here! Need input... - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Brmi1234 · 01-19-2009, 05:48 PM

Hi all!

Well, after months of lurking, I finally registered because I really need to post and get some input here. I am posting this in the breeders section also, but hoped I could get more input by posting here too--hope that is allowed.

This is regarding our 20 month old, four pound female who we bred to a 2.5 lb. male beginning on November 20.

Our little cutie pie is on day 62 at the earliest. We got several ties over about about a week or slightly less, so this would be day 62 IF she took on the first tie. They were all pretty short ties, at one minute or less, so I am worried that could be a factor.

At any rate, after three or four weeks we did notice that she had bulked up. She weighs four pounds and is a teeny little thing with very little "meat" on her. I can always feel her hip bones, which worries me, but the vet said she is just fine. She started to get a pooch to her tummy, but it really never developed into a big pregnant looking stomach. We did not get an X-ray.

Well, I had sort of given up, but holding her today I realized I cannot feel her hip bones at all anymore...she does still have the slight pooch to her tummy, but I was also able to express the tiniest bit of milk from both bottom nipples. I am currently a breastfeeding mother, so this is something very familiar to me!!! :-) Hope that isn't TMI. At any rate, I was surprised about the milk. Both bottom-most nipples also have kind of a little white dot on top anytime I look.

What are your experiences? I am wondering if I should be running out and buying a heating pad and all that. Don't want to be unprepared, but if you were a stranger just taking a look, you would not think she was pregnant. This is our first experience with a small dog. We bred larger dogs back in our younger days!

I guess I could post a picture of her belly if anyone is interested--let me know.

Thanks,
Bridget

red1973 · 01-19-2009, 06:00 PM

Hi Bridget, wanted to welcome you to yorkie talk. I have a girl that is on day 53 of her pregnancy and i can feel and see them moving. have you felt them or seen her belly move? do you have a stethescope? i have been able to hear their heartbeats for almost two week now. other than that i dont know. i would think even if there was one in there you would be able to feel them moving. just my experiences. hopefully you find out if she is or not, cause you need to be prepared.
renae

KYBLUE · 01-19-2009, 06:03 PM

no exray and just a 4 pounder i would prepare yourself
for anything that could come up i would not think she has milk and no pup hope it is not to big to deliver and more than one
good luck

red1973 · 01-19-2009, 06:11 PM

I have heard of false pregnancys with milk, so that isnt impossible, but if they tied a couple of times i would think she should be pregnant. i would take her for a xray just in case, its not that expensive and it will save you the worry. I always xray to find out how big the pups are and how many she is having. has she been bred before? has she had puppies?
renae

Brmi1234 · 01-19-2009, 06:19 PM

she is almost two and has never been bred...

red1973 · 01-19-2009, 06:23 PM

can you have her lay real still and hold her belly to see if it is moving. you should be able to feel them moving?
renae

Brmi1234 · 01-19-2009, 07:05 PM

I tried and I cannot feel anything definite moving. Do they move all the time? Thanks.

BamaFan121s · 01-19-2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KYBLUE

no exray and just a 4 pounder i would prepare yourself
for anything that could come up i would not think she has milk and no pup hope it is not to big to deliver and more than one
good luck

Agreed.

katelin · 01-19-2009, 09:21 PM

If it was my dog, I'd be at the vets getting an x-ray. These tiny dogs frequently have trouble delivering and you don't even know for sure if she is pregnant. I'd be very worried that I wasn't prepared for this.

luckylady · 01-20-2009, 04:23 AM

Welcome to Yorkie Talk!

I would definitely take her to the vet to find out for sure is she is pregnant and for xrays to see if there are pups, how many, and if they will be small enough to fit through her birth canal.

If you suspect that your female is pregnant....or even when you had planned on her getting pregnant, you should have all the whelping supplies (heating pad you mentioned, & other things) on hand long before she is due. FYI for this pregnancy (if she is) and/or for later, check out this wonderful & informative website Canine Reproduction Video and Book on Breeding and Whelping dogs by Debbie Jensen for dog breeders and Whelping Supplies needed to deliver puppies.

Good luck to you and your girl; please keep us posted

I love belly pictures, pregnant or not.....so post away! Or would love to see even just a picture of the mama to be.

rcb722 · 01-20-2009, 10:56 AM

I would definitely take her to the vet. Our little girl got noticeably huge, and she only had two pups each litter. BUT, each time, the pups were to big for Sicily to deliver, and she required a c-section. (we didn't know with the first litter, and lost one of the puppies.)

Also, this last time, the vet told me that once you can express milk, labor should start within 24-36 hours. Definitelytake her in to make sure that both she and her pup (if there is any) make it through healthy!

darnlora · 01-20-2009, 11:55 AM

Have you taken her to get x-ray or do you have puppies yet?

Brmi1234 · 01-20-2009, 01:35 PM

No, honestly, I have not taken her for an Xray because she really does not have a big PG belly and I feel like they will just laugh at me. My husband keeps looking and saying no, no way, she is not. I wish I could post a belly photo on here....I do not know if it is because I have a Mac or what....I am going to try again. Thanks.

spr377 · 01-20-2009, 01:44 PM

My female had a false pregnancy, after her last heat. She had milk when she "would have had" the puppies. However, she had not been bred, so there was no possibility of her whelping. I would take my little girl to the vet and have her checked right away, it is much better to be safe than sorry. A dog that little needs constant supervision, if she is ready to whelp. Not taking her to the vet, could have disastrous results! Good luck!

rcb722 · 01-20-2009, 01:47 PM

Here's a picture of our little Sicily when she was about day 63 or so- just a bit before she went in for her c-section. You can for sure see the difference, and like I said, there were only 2 pups....

IMG_6050.JPG (image)

01-19-2009, 05:48 PM	#1
Brmi1234 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: big pine key Posts: 19	Day 62 and I am really on the fence here! Need input... Hi all! Well, after months of lurking, I finally registered because I really need to post and get some input here. I am posting this in the breeders section also, but hoped I could get more input by posting here too--hope that is allowed. This is regarding our 20 month old, four pound female who we bred to a 2.5 lb. male beginning on November 20. Our little cutie pie is on day 62 at the earliest. We got several ties over about about a week or slightly less, so this would be day 62 IF she took on the first tie. They were all pretty short ties, at one minute or less, so I am worried that could be a factor. At any rate, after three or four weeks we did notice that she had bulked up. She weighs four pounds and is a teeny little thing with very little "meat" on her. I can always feel her hip bones, which worries me, but the vet said she is just fine. She started to get a pooch to her tummy, but it really never developed into a big pregnant looking stomach. We did not get an X-ray. Well, I had sort of given up, but holding her today I realized I cannot feel her hip bones at all anymore...she does still have the slight pooch to her tummy, but I was also able to express the tiniest bit of milk from both bottom nipples. I am currently a breastfeeding mother, so this is something very familiar to me!!! :-) Hope that isn't TMI. At any rate, I was surprised about the milk. Both bottom-most nipples also have kind of a little white dot on top anytime I look. What are your experiences? I am wondering if I should be running out and buying a heating pad and all that. Don't want to be unprepared, but if you were a stranger just taking a look, you would not think she was pregnant. This is our first experience with a small dog. We bred larger dogs back in our younger days! I guess I could post a picture of her belly if anyone is interested--let me know. Thanks, Bridget

01-19-2009, 06:00 PM	#2
red1973 YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: pa Posts: 261	Hi Bridget, wanted to welcome you to yorkie talk. I have a girl that is on day 53 of her pregnancy and i can feel and see them moving. have you felt them or seen her belly move? do you have a stethescope? i have been able to hear their heartbeats for almost two week now. other than that i dont know. i would think even if there was one in there you would be able to feel them moving. just my experiences. hopefully you find out if she is or not, cause you need to be prepared. renae __________________ renae erik jazzmine kodi cheyanne baby tucker and princess samantha

01-19-2009, 06:11 PM	#4
red1973 YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: pa Posts: 261	I have heard of false pregnancys with milk, so that isnt impossible, but if they tied a couple of times i would think she should be pregnant. i would take her for a xray just in case, its not that expensive and it will save you the worry. I always xray to find out how big the pups are and how many she is having. has she been bred before? has she had puppies? renae __________________ renae erik jazzmine kodi cheyanne baby tucker and princess samantha

01-19-2009, 06:23 PM	#6
red1973 YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: pa Posts: 261	can you have her lay real still and hold her belly to see if it is moving. you should be able to feel them moving? renae __________________ renae erik jazzmine kodi cheyanne baby tucker and princess samantha

01-19-2009, 09:21 PM	#9
katelin YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,778	If it was my dog, I'd be at the vets getting an x-ray. These tiny dogs frequently have trouble delivering and you don't even know for sure if she is pregnant. I'd be very worried that I wasn't prepared for this. __________________ *LaVail Yorkshire Terriers*

01-19-2009, 06:03 PM	#3
KYBLUE No Longer a Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ky Posts: 735	no exray and just a 4 pounder i would prepare yourself for anything that could come up i would not think she has milk and no pup hope it is not to big to deliver and more than one good luck

01-19-2009, 06:19 PM	#5
Brmi1234 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: big pine key Posts: 19	she is almost two and has never been bred...

01-19-2009, 07:05 PM	#7
Brmi1234 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: big pine key Posts: 19	I tried and I cannot feel anything definite moving. Do they move all the time? Thanks.

01-20-2009, 04:23 AM	#10
luckylady Living My Yorkie Dream Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 6,114 Blog Entries: 6	Welcome to Yorkie Talk! I would definitely take her to the vet to find out for sure is she is pregnant and for xrays to see if there are pups, how many, and if they will be small enough to fit through her birth canal. If you suspect that your female is pregnant....or even when you had planned on her getting pregnant, you should have all the whelping supplies (heating pad you mentioned, & other things) on hand long before she is due. FYI for this pregnancy (if she is) and/or for later, check out this wonderful & informative website Canine Reproduction Video and Book on Breeding and Whelping dogs by Debbie Jensen for dog breeders and Whelping Supplies needed to deliver puppies. Good luck to you and your girl; please keep us posted I love belly pictures, pregnant or not.....so post away! Or would love to see even just a picture of the mama to be. __________________ Rose Lucky,Toby, Hannah,Camie, & Reggie Heartland Biewers and Yorkies

01-20-2009, 10:56 AM	#11
rcb722 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 31	I would definitely take her to the vet. Our little girl got noticeably huge, and she only had two pups each litter. BUT, each time, the pups were to big for Sicily to deliver, and she required a c-section. (we didn't know with the first litter, and lost one of the puppies.) Also, this last time, the vet told me that once you can express milk, labor should start within 24-36 hours. Definitelytake her in to make sure that both she and her pup (if there is any) make it through healthy! Last edited by rcb722; 01-20-2009 at 10:59 AM.

01-20-2009, 11:55 AM	#12
darnlora Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Grove Oklahoma Posts: 494	Have you taken her to get x-ray or do you have puppies yet? __________________ "The best and most beautiful things in world cannot be seen or touched they must be felt with the heart." ~~~~ Helen Keller

01-20-2009, 01:35 PM	#13
Brmi1234 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: big pine key Posts: 19	No, honestly, I have not taken her for an Xray because she really does not have a big PG belly and I feel like they will just laugh at me. My husband keeps looking and saying no, no way, she is not. I wish I could post a belly photo on here....I do not know if it is because I have a Mac or what....I am going to try again. Thanks.

01-20-2009, 01:44 PM	#14
spr377 Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 2,015	My female had a false pregnancy, after her last heat. She had milk when she "would have had" the puppies. However, she had not been bred, so there was no possibility of her whelping. I would take my little girl to the vet and have her checked right away, it is much better to be safe than sorry. A dog that little needs constant supervision, if she is ready to whelp. Not taking her to the vet, could have disastrous results! Good luck! __________________ Piper Leo Baby Piccolo

01-20-2009, 01:47 PM	#15
rcb722 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 31	Here's a picture of our little Sicily when she was about day 63 or so- just a bit before she went in for her c-section. You can for sure see the difference, and like I said, there were only 2 pups.... IMG_6050.JPG (image)