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phfgkl 12-06-2008 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bildio (Post 2363368)
Read that. The key word is sold . There is no proof pups were sold to a pet store. If you use the word shipped, I have no issue with the statement.
So, you really didn't answer my question. Why didn't this supposed other lady ship her own puppies? would you ship my puppies for me to a petstore(if I had any to ship)? I sure wouldn't do it for anyone, because, as I've said, a good breeder never has to sell to a petstore.

bchgirl 12-06-2008 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bildio (Post 2363368)
Read that. The key word is sold . There is no proof pups were sold to a pet store. If you use the word shipped, I have no issue with the statement.
I think you are splitting hairs there...cause the puppies certainly weren't GIVEN to the pet store.

bildio 12-06-2008 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkieisme (Post 2363372)
Normally when one is shipped it means sold, not given away in the breeder world
I respectfully disagree. Show us the proof that they were sold. If they were indeed sold there should be a bill of sale or some proof of sale.

bildio 12-06-2008 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2363376)
I think you are splitting hairs there...cause the puppies certainly weren't GIVEN to the pet store.
I don't think I'm splitting hairs at all. Not even close to splitting hairs especially when negative comments about someone are being posted on a public forum. If you think I'm splitting hairs use the word shipped instead of sold. I don't think anyone has an issue with the word shipped.

yorkieisme 12-06-2008 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bildio (Post 2363379)
I respectfully disagree. Show us the proof that they were sold. If they were indeed sold there should be a bill of sale or some proof.
Look I don't have the so called Proof, however two people made money off the sale of these puppies. Breeders do not just give their puppies away and someone else comes in scoops them up and the airline ships for free. So basically with that said, possible 3 people were involved including the airline. Now if GB pocketed the money I have no idea, did she pay for shipping I have no idea..........it is weird that there was yorkies involved, so does that mean the pet store bought a bunch of puppies out the newspaper and GB paid out of her pocket for shipping? I have no idea. But shipping and sold goes hand in hand when we discuss shipping a animal. If not then I ask a well known breeder to step up and give me a yorkie and ship him for free. He will be loved and adored just as much as Chino is and get this he will not be caged or fed one time a day and he will always walk on the grass to get the great puppy joy out of being outside. So please ship me a puppy does not matter if 4-9 lbs, he will forever have home with us. Thank you

bchgirl 12-06-2008 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bildio (Post 2363387)
I don't think I'm splitting hairs at all. Not even close to splitting hairs especially when negative comments about someone are being posted on a public forum. If you think I'm splitting hairs use the word shipped instead of sold. I don't think anyone has an issue with the word shipped.
Obviously not the breeder in question.

Personally I hate the fact that ANYONE ships puppies to pet stores. If there wasn't any shipping...there wouldn't be any puppies at any pet store.

YorkieAZ 12-06-2008 07:31 AM
IMO I don't understand what the argument is here :confused:..I think we all agree that shipping or selling to a pet shop is dispicable.
We have her admittance on this public forum..what else is needed?

jencar98 12-06-2008 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bildio (Post 2363368)
Read that. The key word is sold . There is no proof pups were sold to a pet store. If you use the word shipped, I have no issue with the statement.

I don't care if she gave, sold, bartered or whatever, the puppies to the pet store, the fact remains that she provided a pet store with puppies. And, no ethical, reputable, exhibitor breeder would ever, for any reason provide a pet store with puppies

Seems you want to split hairs on some facts to justify your considered purchase of one of her pups.:confused: Why do you continue to ignore the fact that she did supply a pet store with puppies. The fact that she did in itself would be enough for me to stay away from this breeder. There are many other reputable breeders to buy a pup from, why would you support a pet store broker?

bildio 12-06-2008 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2363394)
Obviously not the breeder in question.

Personally I hate the fact that ANYONE ships puppies to pet stores. If there wasn't any shipping...there wouldn't be any puppies at any pet store.
If people didn't buy puppies from pet stores the problem would be solved.

bildio 12-06-2008 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 2363401)
I don't care if she gave, sold, bartered or whatever, the puppies to the pet store, the fact remains that she provided a pet store with puppies. And, no ethical, reputable, exhibitor breeder would ever, for any reason provide a pet store with puppies

Seems you want to split hairs on some facts to justify your considered purchase of one of her pups.:confused: Why do you continue to ignore the fact that she did supply a pet store with puppies. The fact that she did in itself would be enough for me to stay away from this breeder. There are many other reputable breeders to buy a pup from, why would you support a pet store broker?
I am interested in dealing with facts. Suppose, hypothetically, we could be sued for slander for the negative statements we make on a public forum. Wouldn't you be more careful about the words you use to discredit someone?

bchgirl 12-06-2008 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bildio (Post 2363406)
If people didn't buy puppies from pet stores the problem would be solved.
If there weren't any puppies in pet stores to be purchased....well you know.

jencar98 12-06-2008 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bildio (Post 2363406)
If people didn't buy puppies from pet stores the problem would be solved.

So, it's not okay to buy from a pet store but is perfectly acceptable to buy from the breeder that is supplying the pet store with puppies :confused: Either way you are supporting a disreputable breeder, and perpetuating the suffering of dogs.:(

bildio 12-06-2008 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 2363401)
Seems you want to split hairs on some facts to justify your considered purchase of one of her pups.:confused:
:thumbdown
This comment is inappropriate, and untrue.

bildio 12-06-2008 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 2363414)
So, it's not okay to buy from a pet store but is perfectly acceptable to buy from the breeder that is supplying the pet store with puppies :confused: Either way you are supporting a disreputable breeder, and perpetuating the suffering of dogs.:(
There you go again. How do you know the dogs are suffering. They may be in very nice homes, well taken care of, happy, and making their owners satisfied.

Again, please stick to the facts.

Lolasmom1211 12-06-2008 08:06 AM
Just for everyone\'s information. I was just trying to answer the OP\'s original question. I do have first hand knowledge of Glenda Beavers and her puppies. I do not think she needs me to defend or support her. Her product stands on it\'s own. I am looking at it right now. I just told my story, the truth. I sleep very well at night and my conscience is clear. I bought from a different breeder the first time, one which I found no negative feedback on, and I had horrible and very expensive health problems with my precious baby girl...so when I did do even more research, and came up with Glenda\'s information, I have had no complaints. The puppies have NEVER been sick, they are happy, healthy and beautiful. That is the end of it. I don\'t want to get into the ethics and politics of breeding and showing and exhibiting...I don\'t think that is what the OP was asking. Maybe we should all stick with the subject matter that was originally asked.


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