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08-10-2008, 05:00 PM | #31 | |
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I have just been playing this over and over in my head and I am thankful for all the advice. | |
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08-10-2008, 05:02 PM | #32 | |
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08-10-2008, 05:02 PM | #33 | |
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Be patient, and keep researching even when you think you've got a good grasp on your questions because there always seems to be more out there. I wouldn't take it so personally about the 'yelling'. I doubt she was 'screaming' at you. More likely screaming at the act of inbreeding. Cheer up, and take things a little more light hearted. If you don't let yourself get run off by a few CAPS, then you're bound to find some great mentors and information here!! Good Luck! | |
08-10-2008, 05:03 PM | #34 |
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| I have years of experience too - and would never, never do an in-breeding. I am totally responsible for each pup I bring into the world. I do not want to hurt any pup, by knowing that I might cause a problem. No way! I would leave this only to the breeders that have had a life time in producing champions and know the true science of breeding. |
08-10-2008, 05:11 PM | #35 |
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| I personally think it was a good question by the op!...Because she asked the question many others will learn what not to do!...Hopefully it will help!
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08-10-2008, 05:14 PM | #36 | |
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08-10-2008, 05:39 PM | #37 |
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| Personally, when I inbred two yorkies 10 years ago, it was because I did not know any better and I had been told it was fine to do. These were not show dogs but they had some champion bloodline. Luckily I did not have any problems from the breeding. Knowing what I know today I would not inbred again but I do feel that line breeding is sometimes better than out crossing. There are many risks in any breeding that you do and sometimes no matter how careful you plan your breedings you can have bad results. Just for learning purposes I have attached a picture of my Little Man, pictured on the left. He is the product of a father to daughter breeding. Pictured on the right is Shorty, he is the son of Little Man. The bitch I bred Little Man to was totally unrelated to him, an outcross breeding. Little Man is ten years old and Shorty is 8 years old. I love them to pieces even if they aren't show dogs. Now just speaking from my heart. If I had had a mentor, YT and all the wonderful advise that I am seeing on here now, I would be much further ahead in my breeding program. We all make mistakes but we just have to learn from them and more forward. |
08-10-2008, 06:07 PM | #38 | |
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08-10-2008, 06:32 PM | #39 |
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| This subject has been discussed in previous threads but this one has been especially good. Thanks to the OP for the thread and to all of the good opinions, well founded and well stated.
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08-10-2008, 07:22 PM | #40 | |
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Excellent post
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08-10-2008, 08:06 PM | #41 | |
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08-10-2008, 08:07 PM | #42 |
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| What is the difference between "inbreeding" and "linebreeding"? How closely bred is inbreeding vs. linebreeding? I know alot of show dogs come from lines that are linebred and it was my understanding that as long as you are doubling up on dogs in a pedigree that have the qualities you want to see in your puppies or qualities that one of the parents are lacking that is a good thing? Is this wrong? |
08-11-2008, 04:45 AM | #43 |
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| Here is an article that explains the different types of breeding: Types of Breeding: Inbreeding, Line-breeding, outcrossing, outbreeding While inbreeding is not recommended for the inexperienced, I must add that if it were not for inbreeding and close line breeding, we would not have most of the breeds we have today. Most people have a great misunderstanding about inbreeding and think that all inbred dogs are nuts or have something terribly wrong with them. I found this to be very untrue. Line breeding is breeding more distantly related dogs, grandparents, cousins, aunts and uncles. Even line breeding has to be monitored closely because your gene pool can still get too small. Even the best breeders that line breed will bring in different bloodlines ever so often. Last edited by bjh; 08-11-2008 at 04:46 AM. |
08-11-2008, 05:48 AM | #44 | |
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I am old enough to remember when most did not outcross..I was discouraged from outcrossing when I started...but breeding type to type is a good breeding today I find..really produced some nice potentials in Canada for a friend. To the OP...I was reading this thread to my husband and he said I should tell you an experince I had early on... There was no Internet, of course, no breed forums, no where to learn anything, books on Yorkie breeding still do not exist.. I decided to go where "they" gathered..a dog show. I went up to Johnny Robinson (Trivar, a foundation breeder) I said..."I would like to buy a female to breed to my male, she must be very nice and produce nice puppies"...Johnny asked where I got my male? I told him Gus came from a good breeder (he had a pedigree) and I got him from a pet shop...actually, I got him from someone who bought him from a pet shop. Johnny's partner, Morris, all but went into cardiac arrest, his eyes glazed over and he had to walk away...Johnny, simply shook his head and did not reply...I guess he figured there was no use, I was hopeless. We later became friends and I bought a nice bitch from him and used stud service quite often to help me improve. My first champion goes back to Trivar. Any question, any poster has asked about breeding, showing etc..on YT, I have actually asked in person to an exhibitor at a show and I am still alive to tell it...but if you are serious about the breed, nothing will stop you...and I am a declawed pussy cat, compared to what you will come up against, beleive me. Last edited by YorkieRose; 08-11-2008 at 05:52 AM. | |
08-11-2008, 06:13 AM | #45 | |
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very nicely said | |
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