AKC sent me a letter today stating that my bitch's DNA is NOT a match to her SIRE. - Page 2 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

CEEV · 08-02-2008, 07:25 AM

Sorry to hear about you situation, hope things get better.

KrissieBella · 08-02-2008, 07:41 AM

OMG! I'm not sure what I would do in that situation, but what a disappointment!!

YorkieRose · 08-02-2008, 10:43 AM

Can you imagine if you had shown her, got a championship, bred her and sold her puppies...you would have a ton of money to refund...and if you find the breeder, she owes you money and all the other pups she sold with incorrect DNA...
AKC will not help you with a refund from the breeder..that is a civil matter, but they should give you the breeders address if she is still registering with AKC...good luck

roxies_mom · 08-02-2008, 10:54 AM

I have a question and maybe it makes me sound ignorant but I'm going to ask anyway.
Roxie is my first purebred dog, I've always adopted from a shelter. Anyway...if your not planning on showing or breeding and your yorkie is just for my pure pleasure of a companion is it still necessary or important to register them?

YorkieRose · 08-02-2008, 10:59 AM

I have two champion-sired girls that are too small to breed..I haven't even bothered to register them...and have no plans to so so. Not important to me...

roxies_mom · 08-02-2008, 11:05 AM

Thank you, I was just wondering how important it is or not. That answers my question.

gypsyqueen · 08-02-2008, 11:25 AM

I bet If you emailed her and told her you were planning on flying in to see her next week she would reply

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Originally Posted by ggggggg

I have NOT heard from the breeder for almost a year. I have continuously sent emails to keep her updated on the dog which I sent to the only email address I had, and she has never replied. I am going to try to send a certified letter to her home address with a copy of the AKC letter attached and hope I get an answer. I spoke with a AKC representative this morning on the Phone and they told me that they have sent the breeder a request for validation to this problem too. They told me that I could not register any litter from this female in the future or even show her in conformation. I am scared, we paid $1,500 for her, and now we have no registration.

troubletb · 08-02-2008, 12:54 PM

Wow, what a story! So happy to know that AKC does check.

TeddyandTiffy · 08-04-2008, 08:44 AM

I for one think this is bad breeding practices...I'm a Breeder and I know which male is the sire to my puppies...I have 2 males and 3 females, I just don't see how in the world a breeder could get things such as this messed up...Not a good breeder in my OPO...

There's where a Breeder should "KNOW" when to separate males and females due to heat cycles and keep their records straight...And keep litters separate too...

I've never had 2 litters at one time though but I would not think it would be hard to know which Damn had what puppies if you kept your records straight...and kept the damns and litters separate in playpens...This is sad this is happening in our Yorkshire Terrier Breed...

If I was you and this was done to me, I would ask for any fees that I had incurred while I was searching and trying to figure this all out after all it is her fault you are in this situation. If this ever happen to me as a Breeder I would be more then willing to help one of my adopted parents out in any way I could and yes refund their expenses during their search. I wish you the best in your search & please keep us updated on your findings.

Lee

TeddyandTiffy · 08-04-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Can you imagine if you had shown her, got a championship, bred her and sold her puppies...you would have a ton of money to refund...and if you find the breeder, she owes you money and all the other pups she sold with incorrect DNA...
AKC will not help you with a refund from the breeder..that is a civil matter, but they should give you the breeders address if she is still registering with AKC...good luck

Pat that would be just awful I couldn't even start to imagine it all...What a mess that would be and I sure wouldn't want to be the breeder in that mess. Hugs, Lee

WV~Yorkies · 08-04-2008, 10:33 AM

Wow! I am in shock with this thread. I never knew that AKC could revoke registeration.

Yorkiedaze · 08-04-2008, 12:14 PM

Looks like a major can of worms has just been opened. I had all three of mine DNA tested, but I suppose it went just fine.

NOW, I think anyone who pays a lot for a puppy, show quality or not, just because of some Champion backgrounds should insist on them getting the parents DNA tested and you get the puppy tested, and a contract drawn up that your money will be returned in the event the puppy isn't from the parents they said it was.

mypreciouspups · 08-04-2008, 12:25 PM

Wow, this is all pretty scary... I have been scammed out of papers before.. and the breeder seems to be able to get away with it.. not right..I would try taking her to civil court tho.. and go for money.. hit where it hurts her.. mabye then she might look after things better as a breeder...I am with yorkierose.. if it is for a pet.. who cares about papers.. but for breeding, showing.. you need those papers..

anne

jannh · 08-04-2008, 12:48 PM

I had this happen to me, but Maggies breeder Hurd about Poodles in Ohio and the AKC straightened it out within the year and reinstated her.
I didn't worry about it because we had already had Maggie spayed as I got ther for a pet and not for breeding.
I don't know what you can do if the breeder is unhelpful.
Good Luck. I hope you get this figured out...

gloriajean · 08-07-2008, 10:25 AM

I think if you pay for an AKC dog then that's what you should get, she said she paid $1500.00 that's ALOT of money, if it's the dog is not for breeding or showing she still should have gotten the correct papers because that's what she paid for. pet or not. I hope the breeder helps you get the correct papers.
best of luck to you.

08-02-2008, 07:41 AM	#17
KrissieBella Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Georgia Posts: 450	OMG! I'm not sure what I would do in that situation, but what a disappointment!! __________________ "Original Oil paintings from scratch. No computer imagery. Put your memories in Oil TODAY!" "Your Life is an occasion, Rise to it." ~ Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium

08-02-2008, 10:43 AM	#18
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	Dna Can you imagine if you had shown her, got a championship, bred her and sold her puppies...you would have a ton of money to refund...and if you find the breeder, she owes you money and all the other pups she sold with incorrect DNA... AKC will not help you with a refund from the breeder..that is a civil matter, but they should give you the breeders address if she is still registering with AKC...good luck

08-02-2008, 10:59 AM	#20
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	Papers I have two champion-sired girls that are too small to breed..I haven't even bothered to register them...and have no plans to so so. Not important to me...

08-02-2008, 12:54 PM	#23
troubletb Love my Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Port Richey, Florida Posts: 2,339	Wow, what a story! So happy to know that AKC does check. __________________ Karen~ Bell, Lilly and Peter's Mom Rest in Peace <3

08-04-2008, 10:33 AM	#26
WV~Yorkies Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: WV Posts: 3,605 Blog Entries: 2	Wow! I am in shock with this thread. I never knew that AKC could revoke registeration. __________________ Melissa Wvyorkies

08-02-2008, 07:25 AM	#16
CEEV YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Atlanta Posts: 3	Sorry to hear about you situation, hope things get better.

08-02-2008, 10:54 AM	#19
roxies_mom YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: central illinois Posts: 1,396 Blog Entries: 1	I have a question and maybe it makes me sound ignorant but I'm going to ask anyway. Roxie is my first purebred dog, I've always adopted from a shelter. Anyway...if your not planning on showing or breeding and your yorkie is just for my pure pleasure of a companion is it still necessary or important to register them?

08-02-2008, 11:05 AM	#21
roxies_mom YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: central illinois Posts: 1,396 Blog Entries: 1	Thank you, I was just wondering how important it is or not. That answers my question.

08-04-2008, 08:44 AM	#24
TeddyandTiffy Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seymour, Indiana Posts: 1,384	I for one think this is bad breeding practices...I'm a Breeder and I know which male is the sire to my puppies...I have 2 males and 3 females, I just don't see how in the world a breeder could get things such as this messed up...Not a good breeder in my OPO... There's where a Breeder should "KNOW" when to separate males and females due to heat cycles and keep their records straight...And keep litters separate too... I've never had 2 litters at one time though but I would not think it would be hard to know which Damn had what puppies if you kept your records straight...and kept the damns and litters separate in playpens...This is sad this is happening in our Yorkshire Terrier Breed... If I was you and this was done to me, I would ask for any fees that I had incurred while I was searching and trying to figure this all out after all it is her fault you are in this situation. If this ever happen to me as a Breeder I would be more then willing to help one of my adopted parents out in any way I could and yes refund their expenses during their search. I wish you the best in your search & please keep us updated on your findings. Lee

08-04-2008, 12:14 PM	#27
Yorkiedaze My hairy-legged girls Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lompoc, ca. Posts: 12,228	Looks like a major can of worms has just been opened. I had all three of mine DNA tested, but I suppose it went just fine. NOW, I think anyone who pays a lot for a puppy, show quality or not, just because of some Champion backgrounds should insist on them getting the parents DNA tested and you get the puppy tested, and a contract drawn up that your money will be returned in the event the puppy isn't from the parents they said it was.

08-04-2008, 12:25 PM	#28
mypreciouspups Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Florida/Canada Posts: 5,514	Wow, this is all pretty scary... I have been scammed out of papers before.. and the breeder seems to be able to get away with it.. not right..I would try taking her to civil court tho.. and go for money.. hit where it hurts her.. mabye then she might look after things better as a breeder...I am with yorkierose.. if it is for a pet.. who cares about papers.. but for breeding, showing.. you need those papers.. anne

08-04-2008, 12:48 PM	#29
jannh Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Carlsbad, N.M. Posts: 40	I had this happen to me, but Maggies breeder Hurd about Poodles in Ohio and the AKC straightened it out within the year and reinstated her. I didn't worry about it because we had already had Maggie spayed as I got ther for a pet and not for breeding. I don't know what you can do if the breeder is unhelpful. Good Luck. I hope you get this figured out...

08-07-2008, 10:25 AM	#30
gloriajean YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 460	Get What You Pay For I think if you pay for an AKC dog then that's what you should get, she said she paid $1500.00 that's ALOT of money, if it's the dog is not for breeding or showing she still should have gotten the correct papers because that's what she paid for. pet or not. I hope the breeder helps you get the correct papers. best of luck to you.