How to go about studding my little guy.

[YorkieRose]

I do not have a problem with a breeder having a "kennel" depending how it is done...a kennel is a place where dogs are housed...and it can be done in many ways to make it safe and perfect for raising puppies..and kennels can be built within the house itself which worked wonderfully for me...

[erickajm]

Has anyone found anything on this breeder? I have googled her and am not coming up with anything.

[Sookie]

The link shows she has Yorkies, Maltese, Yorktese, Shihtese, Cotons, etc. And she is apparently a broker, not a breeder.

[tatertot15]

I just looked at the breeders website and first couple things I saw were "Yorktese", "Yorkichons", "Mulitchons", "Shimalt". The breeder did have a "teacup" section saying that there was no such thing which is good. But I dont like that she has mixed breeds. and the fact that she let a female that small get pregnant is beyond me! That is endangering her life. JMO, I am not a breeder or anything. Everyone on here just wants to help where they can. I hope you find the information you are looking for.

[Ladymom]

I'm afraid your breeder was really a broker so you have no way of knowing his genetic background. I'm certain his original breeder didn't bother to health test his parents so you have no idea what genetic time bombs he may be carrying and could pass on to his offspring.

Did you know that Yorkies are thirty-six times more likely to have a liver shunt than all other breeds combined? And that shunts are inherited? Breeding a dog with an unknown background is irresponsible. Please get him neutered and just enjoy him as a wonderful pet.

[Amazing Yorkies]

Originally Posted by ringoandmommy

Well, the breeder I got him from, like I said, is a VERY trustworthy one. She has lots of land in Dade City here in FL, and the puppies are bred at her house. She has an air-conditioned, completely flea free kennel on her property where she keeps the puppies, and they have lots of human interaction.

She also gets puppies from breeders in other states, and is VERY against puppy mills (as am I) so I know he has a good pedigree.


His daddy was 3.4lbs and his mommy was only 2.9. He was the smallest in the litter, and the vet told me maybe 3lbs if he eats alot, which he doesn't.



I wanted to keep one of the puppies he breeds, which is one of the reasons, but at the same time, I've always wanted to get into dog breeding, so I guess this would be a good way to start instead of jumping right into it.
I have a friend, Alex whose parents breed Blue Heelers (Australian cattle dogs) and they told me that after they studded their male the first time, he became very agressive to female dogs, which I'm worried about, because I have a female corgi. I also take him when I visit my mother, and she has two female chihuahuas and a male and a femal black lab, and my little guy doesn't know he's little. He likes to pick on other dogs that are bigger than him.


I'm afraid of doing it on my own, I definately want to go through someone who knows what they're doing, and I didn't even think of going through my breeder. She told me that she breeds them for pets, not shows and breeding, but she doesn't mind if you decide to breed them once or twice, so maybe I'll give her a call.

1st of all Welcome to Yorkie Talk! You came to a great place for your questions.
I'm glad your breeder is keeping her dogs clean, cool, and socialized. Although those things are very, very important, there is so much more to breeding! As a breeder, I would like to list a few reasons why I personally would not purchase from this breeder:
1. Puppies she has purchased from other States, does not, in any way prove pedigree. If he had a pedigree, she would have proudly given you a copy of his pedigree when you purchased him.
2. Mixing her breeds. A responsible breeder would never mix breeds. We are trying to get the very best qualities in our Yorkies according to the Breed Standard as set forth by the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America. Yorkshire Terrier Club of America
3. "Breeding for just pets" makes me feel like a pet has to be substandard. Pets should be healthy, and as high quality as possible too. I want my Yorkie families to be proud of their babies, their qualities, and their health.
4. Breeding to tiny females is a big risk for the female. Almost guaranteeing C-Sections, Eclampsia (Low Calcium), Hypoglycemia, and Possible Death.
5. Anyone buying a whole litter is a, for lack of a better word.... a broker, although not admitting that this is what it really is. They purchase cheaper puppies and resell them at a much higher price. Brokers, or anyone purchasing several puppies, eventually purchase a diseased puppy that spreads the disease throughout their dogs and to unknowing families. It is inevitable!
6. A responsible breeder DOES care if you breed a couple of litters or not. We don't sell puppies with breeding rights, unless we have cleared the new owner for responsible breeding themselves.

These are all red flags to me personally. If you decide to breed your male, please have him genetically tested. Get your male's pedigree from AKC and research his ancestors for health issues. Use him responsibly. Check out the females you breed him to. If you stud, you are 1/2 responsible for creating the babies, make sure the other 1/2 is breeding for the right reasons.
You came to the right place for questions. We'll try to help in any way we can. If you want to breed, research, research, research.. and breed for the best! And Again, Welcome to Yorkie Talk!

[peanut]

Originally Posted by Amazing Yorkies

1st of all Welcome to Yorkie Talk! You came to a great place for your questions.
I'm glad your breeder is keeping her dogs clean, cool, and socialized. Although those things are very, very important, there is so much more to breeding! As a breeder, I would like to list a few reasons why I personally would not purchase from this breeder:
1. Puppies she has purchased from other States, does not, in any way prove pedigree. If he had a pedigree, she would have proudly given you a copy of his pedigree when you purchased him.
2. Mixing her breeds. A responsible breeder would never mix breeds. We are trying to get the very best qualities in our Yorkies according to the Breed Standard as set forth by the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America. Yorkshire Terrier Club of America
3. "Breeding for just pets" makes me feel like a pet has to be substandard. Pets should be healthy, and as high quality as possible too. I want my Yorkie families to be proud of their babies, their qualities, and their health.
4. Breeding to tiny females is a big risk for the female. Almost guaranteeing C-Sections, Eclampsia (Low Calcium), Hypoglycemia, and Possible Death.
5. Anyone buying a whole litter is a, for lack of a better word.... a broker, although not admitting that this is what it really is. They purchase cheaper puppies and resell them at a much higher price. Brokers, or anyone purchasing several puppies, eventually purchase a diseased puppy that spreads the disease throughout their dogs and to unknowing families. It is inevitable!
6. A responsible breeder DOES care if you breed a couple of litters or not. We don't sell puppies with breeding rights, unless we have cleared the new owner for responsible breeding themselves.

These are all red flags to me personally. If you decide to breed your male, please have him genetically tested. Get your male's pedigree from AKC and research his ancestors for health issues. Use him responsibly. Check out the females you breed him to. If you stud, you are 1/2 responsible for creating the babies, make sure the other 1/2 is breeding for the right reasons.
You came to the right place for questions. We'll try to help in any way we can. If you want to breed, research, research, research.. and breed for the best! And Again, Welcome to Yorkie Talk!

Great Post Deb!

[tiggerr36792]

Originally Posted by Amazing Yorkies

1st of all Welcome to Yorkie Talk! You came to a great place for your questions.
I'm glad your breeder is keeping her dogs clean, cool, and socialized. Although those things are very, very important, there is so much more to breeding! As a breeder, I would like to list a few reasons why I personally would not purchase from this breeder:
1. Puppies she has purchased from other States, does not, in any way prove pedigree. If he had a pedigree, she would have proudly given you a copy of his pedigree when you purchased him.
2. Mixing her breeds. A responsible breeder would never mix breeds. We are trying to get the very best qualities in our Yorkies according to the Breed Standard as set forth by the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America. Yorkshire Terrier Club of America
3. "Breeding for just pets" makes me feel like a pet has to be substandard. Pets should be healthy, and as high quality as possible too. I want my Yorkie families to be proud of their babies, their qualities, and their health.
4. Breeding to tiny females is a big risk for the female. Almost guaranteeing C-Sections, Eclampsia (Low Calcium), Hypoglycemia, and Possible Death.
5. Anyone buying a whole litter is a, for lack of a better word.... a broker, although not admitting that this is what it really is. They purchase cheaper puppies and resell them at a much higher price. Brokers, or anyone purchasing several puppies, eventually purchase a diseased puppy that spreads the disease throughout their dogs and to unknowing families. It is inevitable!
6. A responsible breeder DOES care if you breed a couple of litters or not. We don't sell puppies with breeding rights, unless we have cleared the new owner for responsible breeding themselves.

These are all red flags to me personally. If you decide to breed your male, please have him genetically tested. Get your male's pedigree from AKC and research his ancestors for health issues. Use him responsibly. Check out the females you breed him to. If you stud, you are 1/2 responsible for creating the babies, make sure the other 1/2 is breeding for the right reasons.
You came to the right place for questions. We'll try to help in any way we can. If you want to breed, research, research, research.. and breed for the best! And Again, Welcome to Yorkie Talk!

Excellent post and very well said!!

[MeganS]

Originally Posted by ringoandmommy

His daddy was 3.4lbs and his mommy was only 2.9. He was the smallest in the litter, and the vet told me maybe 3lbs if he eats alot, which he doesn't.

I've not read the whole thread yet, but I couldn't get past this part of the post. Your breeder is not as trustworthy as you think if she will breed a 2.9 lb female, ESPECIALLY to a larger male. That is SO dangerous and could easily have resulted in the death of her female. and just from skimming the few posts above me, it actually sounds as if your breeder is either a puppy mill herself or a broker. A true breeder is someone who believes in the betterment of the breed, and breeding a non-standard female to larger male (and mixing breeds purposly) is not a responsible, true breeder, IMO.

I'm not a breeder, so I'll leave this to the breeders of the forum, but I could not stay quiet about that. Welcome to YT, I hope you find all the info you need here!

[Chrissy0277]

Originally Posted by Sookie

The link shows she has Yorkies, Maltese, Yorktese, Shihtese, Cotons, etc. And she is apparently a broker, not a breeder.

[Judy in Waco]

I just wanted to clarify that I am not a breeder either. I learned everything I've learned from the incredible breeders and regular, wonderful members (and now friends) on this site and by reading through the truly sad and upsetting posts about sick puppies since I became a member a little over a year ago.

I too thought about breeding my little Gizmo when I first brought him home from my "breeder", but with the valuable information from others on this site, I realized how serious a mistake that would have been.

Gizmo is our precious, neutered little furboy. I thank God every day for helping me to find YorkieTalk.

[bjh]

Judy....Gizmo is just too cute!!! And I think he knows it.

[Judy in Waco]

Thank you! Yeppers, I think he does. LOL!

[MindieRose]

This is from her teacup statement

Teacup Yorkie and Maltese Puppies


Buyers should beware that there is no such dog as "teacup" or "pocket" Yorkie. These are simply terms that certain breeders may use to increase interest in their dogs, and sometimes the price. Some Yorkie and Maltese puppies are smaller than others, but the preferred standard weight recommended by the AKC is between four and five pounds.

The following quote was made by Daryl Martin a Maltese breeder in Highland Park, Illinois. "There is no such thing as a teacup Maltese, the whole teacup phenomenon is a horrible thing because the breed is already small. And the tiny ones tend to have many health problems, from water in the brain to liver shunts, (abnormal veins that result in failure of the liver to metabolize toxins and brain inflammation.)"

Ingela Gram a breeder and AKC licensed judge of West Redding, Connecticut is quoted as saying, "You will pay a lot of veterinarian bills," and she further adds that the so called "Teacup Maltese" often have the Chihuaha-esque, apple domed skull and open fontanel, a skull shape that isn’t conformationally correct for the Maltese. "They usually are not healthy and have many problems." "When you get a dog down to two pounds, nothing develops like it should. The heart is small, the liver is small. Do you want to end up going to the vet all the time?" Ingela further adds that, "You wouldn’t see a so-called "Teacup Maltese" in the show ring, because this super-small-sized Maltese weighing below the preferred minimum of four pounds is often associated with incorrect conformation, such as a skull that is too apple-domed."

A Maltese may occasionally be born small, but a tiny size is no advantage, agrees Vicki Fierheller, a Maltese breeder in Canada. Despite the health problems and other issues, some unethical breeders try to profit from the tiny dogs cuteness and rarity. Some unscrupulous breeders purposely breed for the teacup size because then can sell them for much more money, but many times the wee ones have serious health problems.

Here at Contented Dog Paradise we may occasionally have a smaller Maltese or Yorkie. But we do not breed purposely for the teacup size and would highly recommend you consult with your veterinarian before purchasing any teacup puppy.

Thats about the only thing that seems almost responsible, except that she says that the akc says between 4 and 5 lbs is standard, when its actually under 7 lbs.
That being said....this is a puppymill. Sorry but it is. All of the many mixed breeds, and non mixed breeds, and the fact that she is buying litters and selling them, that is NOT a good breeder. You have no idea what is in the lines of your dog especially since she brokered the litter. Just because she is a nice person with a clean kennel and seemingly healthy dogs does not mean that she is raising dogs ethically. She may not even understand the reasons that this is not ethical, because some people just dont see whats wrong with it, I really didnt that much when I came to this site. Brokering puppies, having many different breeds and mixed designer breeds, is not a responsible thing to do as a breeder. I am not saying breeders cannot have more than one kind of dog, but it has to be done ethically and this breeder does not seem responsible at all, and NEVER should a 2.9 lb female be bred, ever ever ever.
If you are insistant on breeding your dog, at least contact the breeder where the puppy came from originally and try to dig as much into the health history and have genetic screenings done. You cannot just take the lady's word for it that nothing is wrong with any dogs in that line when they werent even her puppies.

I am not usually this blunt, but just seeing her site raised about a million red flags.

[melmel84]

Ok as per your original question.

I personally do stud my male out. However, I did a HUGE amount of research in the process before even purchasing my lil man. I searched long and hard to find the perfect pup for a stud. He had to have excellent lines, good temperment, perfect genetic, etc.. I found my little guy which I payed an arm and a leg for and waited 1 year and 1/2 before his first breed. Studding is not a simple process. You have to be willing to assist the male if he is too short or if he is having problems tieing. This can be a gut wrenching performance if you dont have a strong stomach. It is a 72 hr a week job when that female is at your house, which by the way you would have to board the female at your house because typically the male does not breed out of his element. Besides the actual act of helping your dog you have to be willing to deal with him "marking" your entire house for the rest of his days. There is no house training tactic you could possibly use to stop him from it. Be prepared to deal with yellow spots on your rug becuase it stains so easily after they breed naturally. Another thing to consider is the fact that you would have to advertise and not everyone who calls you from the advertisements are well educated on breeding so therefore you will have to weed them out as well. Stud dogs will sometimes become agressive as well toward other animals or certain people, especially when they smell a heat! Alot of things changed about my little man when he became a stud. I personally find the rewards of those little faces and perfect pups to be enough to be willing to continue doing this. Being a stud owner may not be all its cracked up to be but it is a good way of being part of the breeding community without owning a female and having the whelping nerves. I persoanlly would not own a female for breed only because I get too nervous when it is all going on. However being a responsible stud owner you have to be willing to assist the other owner in anything that may happen during the whelping or after the pups are born, it is our duty. I hope this helps coming from someone who owns a stud and has seen both sides of this controversal issue.