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JessicaMO620 05-08-2008 06:50 PM

Tammy Willmann
 
has anyone ever gotten a yorkie from her? thats where cammie came from and I have googled her and havent found anything at all about her..... i honestly didnt do my research when I got cammie, but am now curious to know where she came from. Any help would be appreciated

011011 05-09-2008 10:37 AM

Sorry I know nothing to help you

tammy 1962 10-14-2008 06:45 PM

Hi,
i am tammy willmann. Today i just joined this yorkie site. I saw where you were looking for me. I saw a pic of your baby. She is a doll. Tell me about her and where you got her. My husband and i are retired and raise our babies and love every minuite of it. I look forward to hearing from you.
Tammy

tammy 1962 10-14-2008 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jessicamo620 (Post 1975978)
has anyone ever gotten a yorkie from her? Thats where cammie came from and i have googled her and havent found anything at all about her..... I honestly didnt do my research when i got cammie, but am now curious to know where she came from. Any help would be appreciated

hello,
i am tammy ,
i saw your baby online here and you were looking for me.
She is so cute. I also would like to know where you bought her from and if you are happy with her. I love my babies.... And love to get info and updates on them. At christmas i get lots of cards with pics and letters from people who got one of my babies. It is a so nice to hear that they have wonderful families who love them as i do. Look forward to a reply.
Tammy

RockinRhonda 10-19-2008 05:04 PM

I dont understand that conversation.if she came from tammy,why is tammy asking where she bought her.

pee-nut 10-19-2008 05:40 PM

i was wondering the same thing

Potter 10-19-2008 06:13 PM

Plain confusing :confused:

PrestigeousYT 10-19-2008 06:43 PM

Maybe she came from a pet store, or a broker or someone bought her and later had to rehome her.

Deana
Prestigeous Yorkies

janandrey 08-20-2009 08:11 PM

I bought 2 yorkies from Tammy Willmann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JessicaMO620 (Post 1975978)
has anyone ever gotten a yorkie from her? thats where cammie came from and I have googled her and havent found anything at all about her..... i honestly didnt do my research when I got cammie, but am now curious to know where she came from. Any help would be appreciated

Jessica,
Tammy is a great breeder. I did loads of research before I purchased my two yorkies. I visited her kennel (very impressed) and stayed in her mother's house for about a couple of hours. Tammy had 2 litters of yorkies ready to sell and it took me forever to make up my mind because I was in "Yorkie Heaven" with 9 puppies crawling in my lap. Tammy cares very much about her yorkies and will not sell to just anyone. She doesn't want her babies used in puppy mills. I hope this helps because you bought Cammie from the best! Jan

Ladymom 08-20-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JessicaMO620 (Post 1975978)
has anyone ever gotten a yorkie from her? thats where cammie came from and I have googled her and havent found anything at all about her..... i honestly didnt do my research when I got cammie, but am now curious to know where she came from. Any help would be appreciated

Do you know what state she is in? If you bought Cammie from a pet store or an internet website that brokers puppies, she is probably on the USDA list:

http://www.prisonersofgreed.org/ListA2006.pdf

JessicaMO620 08-20-2009 08:25 PM

Thanks for the reply! Tammy eventually found me through this thread and contacted me. She seemed very nice and eager to answer all my questions. And if all of her dogs are like my cammie then I would recommend her because cammie is the perfect example of a yorkie.

Ladymom 08-20-2009 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JessicaMO620 (Post 2765659)
Thanks for the reply! Tammy eventually found me through this thread and contacted me. She seemed very nice and eager to answer all my questions. And if all of her dogs are like my cammie then I would recommend her because cammie is the perfect example of a yorkie.

Where did you get Cammie?

JessicaMO620 08-20-2009 08:50 PM

My fiance got her for me. I think from a broker?? I will have to ask him. I just had a baby a month ago and I am having a hard time remembering anything that happened before he was born lol.

Ladymom 08-21-2009 06:54 PM

I found her. She is on the USDA "puppymill" list under Arkansas:

Arkansas 13816 71-A-0759 Willmann, Tammy & Dennis Hickory Inn Kennels 1557 N. Hickory St Paris 72855


http://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_wel...rt_holders.txt

kwillmann 09-11-2009 01:05 PM

Just who is this Tammy Willmann? Well, let me tell you...
 
For those of you who don’t know Tammy Willmann or for those of you who have some warped view about her business, let me shed some light on this for you. My parents are up every morning at the crack of dawn and are out working their butts off in their kennels. The dogs are fed, the pins cleaned out, the concrete washed out, the puppies exercised, and so many other things that pop up unexpectedly, such as a damaged pin that needs to be fixed. All I know is that my dad is out there, come rain or shine, every day from 7am-5pm. This is a 7 day a week job that doesn’t allow for holidays or sick leave. In fact, not too long ago, I was sick and in the hospital. Did I get to have both my parents there by my side? NO! They had to alternate coming up at night because someone had to be there to take care of the dogs. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying this to sound bitter, I’m just saying it so that people will see just how dedicated my parents are to the dogs and to their business. My parents miss out on the chance to ever take a vacation, let alone spend one night away from home. My parents have sacrificed so much in order to run their business properly and they are very proud of what they have accomplished, and so am I. It’s very hurtful to see ignorant people get on here and call my parents “puppy mill” owners or to say that they are being cruel to animals.
Have you ever heard of kennel owners taking the time to get down in the floor and play with their dogs? Well now you have. That’s exactly what my dad does. He calls it “exercising” the dogs, but don’t be fooled. He gets right down in the floor and plays and laughs with them! That's how we ended up with our first house dog. It's hard not to get attached to them when you are with them everyday. Seldom does my mom ever leave Wal-Mart without getting the puppies a new toy to play with, not to mention the specialized dog food the picky eaters will only eat! These are the kind of people you should feel comfortable buying a puppy from. The puppies come from a CLEAN place where they are loved and cared for.
Hopefully this has cleared things up for those of you who had questions or doubts about my parents’ business. For those of you who aren’t convinced, that’s fine. You have a right to your opinion, but until you’ve actually seen the kennels and the dogs, you don’t have any business labeling my parents as “puppy mill” owners. (And no, that's not an open invitation for you to come see the kennels) In fact, I promise you that their business is not the horror story you picture it to be. All kennels DO NOT have cages upon cages stacked to the ceiling with ten puppies to a cage. The dogs ARE NOT covered in filth and the kennel DOES NOT reek of odor. Most of you criticizers probably haven’t even set foot inside a kennel! So fine, keep your warped view on reality.
If anyone has any further reservations about buying a puppy from my mother, all you will need to do is talk with her for five minutes and you will see just how much she cares for the dogs and loves them and just wants them to go to a happy home.

MindieRose 09-12-2009 01:30 PM

Wow, if you have to be "off in their kennel" (I take it the dogs are not in the home?) from 7am to 5pm (what happens from 5pm to 7am? :confused: ), that seems like an aweful lot of dogs to be cared for. Breeding dogs is not a factory type "business". Sorry but it sounds more like they are raising livestock than house pets. :( I don't care how much they are supposedly played with, dogs are not to be mass produced out in a garage or polebarn like in a factory.
I go on more about everything you said...but I should probably think about it before I post my feelings on it.

red98vett 09-12-2009 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 2766985)
I found her. She is on the USDA "puppymill" list under Arkansas:

Arkansas 13816 71-A-0759 Willmann, Tammy & Dennis Hickory Inn Kennels 1557 N. Hickory St Paris 72855


http://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_wel...rt_holders.txt

I have a zipper on my lips.

That says it all. When I see someone listed as USDS I just plain feel SORRY for the dogs. No one can tell me how much these so called breeders CARE because if they did - they wouldn't be listed as a puppy mill.

Sorry - the zipper undid for a minute. Shutting up now.

MindieRose 09-12-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 2798065)
I have a zipper on my lips.

That says it all. When I see someone listed as USDS I just plain feel SORRY for the dogs. No one can tell me how much these so called breeders CARE because if they did - they wouldn't be listed as a puppy mill.

Sorry - the zipper undid for a minute. Shutting up now.


I am so confused about this still :confused: Are people listed as dog breeders on the USDA list, or are their names just on it for being a USDA premises? I am required to have a USDA premise number for our goats for 4-H. No livestock can touch fairgrounds without an eartag or chip with their USDA number. We also cannot sell a baby goat without it having our tag as well for disease tracking purposes in the event of a breakout of a disease. Does that mean I am on the list too? Is there a specific dog area so I am not classified with puppymillers??

red98vett 09-12-2009 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JessicaMO620 (Post 2765659)
Thanks for the reply! Tammy eventually found me through this thread and contacted me. She seemed very nice and eager to answer all my questions. And if all of her dogs are like my cammie then I would recommend her because cammie is the perfect example of a yorkie.

ok I HAVE to say this - She didn't know who you were or where you bought your Cammie. Don't count on another puppy being the same. Mass producers breed for profit and in many cases aren't the best at record keeping. I'd keep looking if I were you.

Don't want to ruffle feathers but take your time when making a decision like this. You're far better off buying from a small breeder who will actually know their lines and where the puppy actually 'came from'.

ALL people who are selling puppies are going to be nice. It's in their best interest to be nice ...they're working to SELL you a puppy.

You have to look beyond that and into what type of breeder they are. Anyone can tell you what you want to hear.... but in many cases 'nice' words are just that - WORDS.

I say that from experience because my Chanels breeder had all the words too once the sale was done - so was she. She became totally rude when I called her the 2nd week we had her. Long story ...but there's too many breeders that really do care about where their puppies go.

red98vett 09-12-2009 02:45 PM

ps....barring a few comments I just made - the rest of my last post referred to about breeders in general - not just those listed as USDA. What I said can apply to small breeders too - there are good and bad.

I'm sure I ruffled feathers but anyone can up about USDA listings and why one would be classified as such.

Ladymom 09-12-2009 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MindieRose (Post 2798080)
I am so confused about this still :confused: Are people listed as dog breeders on the USDA list, or are their names just on it for being a USDA premises? I am required to have a USDA premise number for our goats for 4-H. No livestock can touch fairgrounds without an eartag or chip with their USDA number. We also cannot sell a baby goat without it having our tag as well for disease tracking purposes in the event of a breakout of a disease. Does that mean I am on the list too? Is there a specific dog area so I am not classified with puppymillers??

The USDA enforces the Animal Welfare Act along with it's many other responsibilities. High volume commercial kennels who wholesale puppies to brokers and pet stores are required to have a Class A Breeder's License. This is entirely separate from the USDA requirements for your goats.

MindieRose 09-12-2009 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 2798121)
The USDA enforces the Animal Welfare Act along with it's many other responsibilities. High volume commercial kennels who wholesale puppies to brokers and pet stores are required to have a Class A Breeder's License. This is entirely separate from the USDA requirements for your goats.

That makes me feel better! I looked at the list and I wasn't on it, but I just didn't understand how it all works.

jeanief 09-14-2009 08:42 AM

give me a break
 
In my opinion, any breeder that cares about their puppies would know where they ended up living and who purchased them. How could a caring breeder send their tiny puppies to petstores or brokers to be sold to whoever by whomever? :mad:
I'm glad the parents and pups are treated well ( according to the breeders son) HOWEVER, you as a breeder, are ALSO responsible to place the puppies in wonderful forever homes and not be passed off to any place/person/petstore that will give you $$ for them. End of story....

Ladymom 09-14-2009 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanief (Post 2800473)
In my opinion, any breeder that cares about their puppies would know where they ended up living and who purchased them. How could a caring breeder send their tiny puppies to petstores or brokers to be sold to whoever by whomever? :mad:
I'm glad the parents and pups are treated well ( according to the breeders son) HOWEVER, you as a breeder, are ALSO responsible to place the puppies in wonderful forever homes and not be passed off to any place/person/petstore that will give you $$ for them. End of story....

:thumbup: Exactly! Reputable breeders do not wholesale puppies to brokers and pet stores. They carefully screen where each and every puppy goes.

carriem 09-15-2009 12:17 PM

Indeed a puppymill breeder
 
this breeder is indeed a puppymill breeder....anybody who houses dogs and breeds them in a repeated fashion for a profit.in my opinion is a puppy mill..yorkies are made to be a pet or best friend....they are not raised to be sold for breeders and caged in cages and bred repeatedly to have pups....what kind of person are these people....sounds like all they care for is MONEY...how would they like to be put in a cage and bred over and over there whole life...and when you are to old you are shipped off to the nursing home.....i think today that most people feel like money is the answer....what happen to having a pet in your home...and what happen to these people,that they went into this type of business.....i do not think that caging an animal up for life is the answer......sounds like the girl is making excuses for there parents...i doubt all of these things are true..this is how people hide behind the real truth...there is no excuse for what these people do..someday there day will come...and better soon than later for our precious pets...Lets stand together and shut these type of people down..Puppymill 's are a disgrace to the United tates of America....

carriem 09-18-2009 05:27 PM

no news is good news
 
how do :animal-payorkie people feel about this breeder puppymill

carriem 10-12-2009 03:34 PM

PuppyMill Breeder's
 
in reguards to people on a usda list,i always thought that usda was good......is people hiding behind usda ...breeding dogs this way....what ever happened to our pets? Now they are caged and bred,and then they die.....what kind of life is this?and why is this allowed to happen....is this person a bad breeder? I have read some of the quotes and replys on this breeder..m aybe she should be shut down,from breeding dogs if she is a puppymill.just how many dogs do they breed?well i am new to this sight so i guess i will read somemore.thanks..
Quote:

Originally Posted by ladymom (Post 2766985)
i found her. She is on the usda "puppymill" list under arkansas:

Arkansas 13816 71-a-0759 willmann, tammy & dennis hickory inn kennels 1557 n. Hickory st paris 72855


USDA - APHIS - Missing Page - Error 404


janandrey 01-04-2010 09:06 AM

Tammy
 
I've seen her kennel and hard work. It was extraordinary and can't see ever purchasing a dog from anyone but Tammy.

janandrey 01-04-2010 09:19 AM

Tammy
 
I wished I had been more active on this website after reading comments about Tammy. People who are making comments have probably not been to her kennel. She never struck me as trying to just make money because she was too selective in the people she would sell her puppies to. Tammy also made follow-up phone calls after money was exchanged to check on the puppies she's sold. She also ask for feedback so she can record on her records. Yorkies are her PASSION, not just a business.

BamaFan121s 01-04-2010 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by janandrey (Post 2939898)
People who are making comments have probably not been to her kennel. .

Having "been to her kennel" is not necessary to ascertain certain information. :rolleyes:

Juding from previous exchanges in this thread, several things are obvious:
1) She sold to a broker and had no idea who ended up with one of her pups nor did she have any voice in screening and selecting the dog's owner.
2) She's a registered USDA breeder...meaning that she has to adhere to THEIR guidelines which include housing dogs like livestock, not loved family pets. :thumbdown
3) Apparently, she sells to pet shops too:
http://www.petshoppuppies.com/report.asp?ID=71A0759

For most here, these things are inexcusable. And this breeder made no effort to try to explain them. To see someone trying to downplay and justify them under the reasoning that "you haven't been there in person, you don't know" is laugable.


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