yorkie pups

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by TammyJM

YES, parti colored Yorkies ARE allowed to be AKC registered. This is only if both parents were also registered, of course. There is a different code for the tri color for the registration form. Now, the parti cannot be shown, but can go into the confirmation ring.

Tammy

Correction...I meant to say that they are allowed in the obedience ring. They are NOT allowed in the confirmation ring, like I had originally written.

[linda44]

are biewers and parti's larger or larger bodied? I dont know if its the coloring or what but every pic Ive seen they look larger than yorkie standards.

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by linda44

are biewers and parti's larger or larger bodied? I dont know if its the coloring or what but every pic Ive seen they look larger than yorkie standards.

My Livi is only 5lbs. so she is not bigger...right within the Yorkie standard.

Tammy

[beckgirl]

AKC sanctioned conformation (show ring) shows do not allow Yorkies that are not AKC standard. Standard only allows a one inch white spot on the chest. there is no allowed color Parti. Go on the internet and type in Why Not White! The article may be on AKC.ORG also. Parti Yorkies are like designer dogs. Just something someone is breeding.

[Pinehaven]

Originally Posted by linda44

are biewers and parti's larger or larger bodied? I dont know if its the coloring or what but every pic Ive seen they look larger than yorkie standards.

Actually the Nikko's parti lines seem to run on the smaller size of the standard. I wish I could find a female parti that was 6-7 lbs but most that I've heard of or seen are 5 lbs and under.

[Nancy1999]

Again, I don't think the words biewer and parti should be interchanged like they so often are. While parti can be registered, they are not registered as a parti but as a Yorkshire terrier. Any dog is eligible to be registered as long as his parents were registered with breeding rights, and that privilege hasn't been taken from the breeder. Many dogs that are registered don't meet standard, because breeders continue to breed dogs who don't meet standard.

It is not clear if the OP dogs were biewer or regular yorkies with the piebald gene. He said that he has "visited" the biewer site, which I took to mean that because some of the pups were multicolored he thought they were biewers. I have been trying to say that there is a great deal of difference.

Biewer breeders are trying to develop their own classification with the AKC with strict coloration standards. A biewer pup can cost around $3000.00, partis on the other hand, are just regular yorkshire terriers whose colors do not meet standard. Unethical breeders try to dupe the public into paying more for them because of their obvious similarity with biewers.

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Again, I don't think the words biewer and parti should be interchanged like they so often are. While parti can be registered, they are not registered as a parti but as a Yorkshire terrier. Any dog is eligible to be registered as long as his parents were registered with breeding rights, and that privilege hasn't been taken from the breeder. Many dogs that are registered don't meet standard, because breeders continue to breed dogs who don't meet standard.

It is not clear if the OP dogs were biewer or regular yorkies with the piebald gene. He said that he has "visited" the biewer site, which I took to mean that because some of the pups were multicolored he thought they were biewers. I have been trying to say that there is a great deal of difference.

Biewer breeders are trying to develop their own classification with the AKC with strict coloration standards. A biewer pup can cost around $3000.00, partis on the other hand, are just regular yorkshire terriers whose colors do not meet standard. Unethical breeders try to dupe the public into paying more for them because of their obvious similarity with biewers.

I don't even think that the "public", for the most part, has even heard of the Biewer...so how would this be a selling point for any breeder of the parti color??

[MyFairLacy]

I'd be interested in hearing more information about the parents and puppies, along with pictures.

I'm assuming the sire and dam both look like a standard-colored yorkie which is why the OP was surprised by the parti pups. The piebald gene is a recessive gene. The puppy must inherit 2 piebald genes in order to be a parti. If they inherit none or only one, they will look like a standard-colored yorkie but be a carrier of the piebald gene. So for two standard-colored yorkies to produce parti puppies, they must both carry the piebald gene.

You can't breed a "splitter" to a Yorkie and get any biewer puppies. They would all look like standard-colored yorkies. You must breed splitter to splitter or splitter to biewer to get biewer puppies.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by TammyJM

I don't even think that the "public", for the most part, has even heard of the Biewer...so how would this be a selling point for any breeder of the parti color??

Well, I guess if you going to get technical, they haven't heard of the word "parti" either, and most of them think "teacup yorkie" is a special classification.

One of the things Yorkietalk can do is educate, it's own members, and the general public. We must remember that many people read Yorkietalk while searching for a dog to buy. Right now at this instant, there are 98 members on the forum and 95 guests reading the forum. I'm always amazed at how many guests we have. Most of the people will probably never become members or post anything, but I'll bet they're a little more informed when the leave here than when they came.

[Nancy1999]

I just want to add that while it is possible for a good breeder to produce a multicolored pup, I personally do not believe a good breeder would market them as a parti. To me this is the same as marketing a smaller dog as "teacup."

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I just want to add that while it is possible for a good breeder to produce a multicolored pup, I personally do not believe a good breeder would market them as a parti. To me this is the same as marketing a smaller dog as "teacup."

I guess I am not getting the points that you are trying to make, other than you are against breeding the parti color. Which it is called this because that the color classification....not as a "selling feature". It's no different than saying, Chocolate Lab or Yellow Lab....just denotes the color. If you take away the word 'parti' as the description of the tri color, then why not take away the blue and gold as well??? Just words to describe color.

Tammy

[beckgirl]

No yorkie of any color but the two recognized Standard colors can be registered unless lying about their color. Obedience and Agility are totally different types of shows. There are good reasons NOT to breed these other colors of Yorkies. One being their genes may not be the best ie: sicklier.

My yorkie was house trained at about 10 weeks. This was with no crate training. She slept by my neck and woke me up to go outside as she wouldn't just down off the bed. A good breeding means an excellent dog. Not from someone who buys a female and a male and breeds them with no investigation into their pedigrees and health records. Only reputable breeders take careful condiseration of both the female and the male they are breeding. They will also take back (and pay back) any Yorkie that doesn't work out for any reason.

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by beckgirl

No yorkie of any color but the two recognized Standard colors can be registered unless lying about their color. Obedience and Agility are totally different types of shows. There are good reasons NOT to breed these other colors of Yorkies. One being their genes may not be the best ie: sicklier.

My yorkie was house trained at about 10 weeks. This was with no crate training. She slept by my neck and woke me up to go outside as she wouldn't just down off the bed. A good breeding means an excellent dog. Not from someone who buys a female and a male and breeds them with no investigation into their pedigrees and health records. Only reputable breeders take careful condiseration of both the female and the male they are breeding. They will also take back (and pay back) any Yorkie that doesn't work out for any reason.

You are incorrect about the parti not being eligible for AKC registration.

I am happy that you found a breeder that you trust and one that trusted you with, what you say, is a show quailty dog AND let you take it before 12 weeks.

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by beckgirl

No yorkie of any color but the two recognized Standard colors can be registered unless lying about their color. Obedience and Agility are totally different types of shows. There are good reasons NOT to breed these other colors of Yorkies. One being their genes may not be the best ie: sicklier.

Parti yorkies are eligible for registration through the AKC. If both the sire and dam are AKC registered yorkies, the offspring can be registered through AKC as well. When you get your registration paper, it only gives you 4 choices of colors which are blue/tan, blue/gold, black/tan, black/gold. But if you have a yorkie that is a different color such as a parti, chocolate (known as liver), solid gold, solid blue, etc. there is a way to register them as the correct color.

While parti yorkies can be registered with AKC, they can not be shown in the conformation ring. Their color is considered a disqualification according to the yorkshire terrier standard and rules set by the YTCA.

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

Parti yorkies are eligible for registration through the AKC. If both the sire and dam are AKC registered yorkies, the offspring can be registered through AKC as well. When you get your registration paper, it only gives you 4 choices of colors which are blue/tan, blue/gold, black/tan, black/gold. But if you have a yorkie that is a different color such as a parti, chocolate (known as liver), solid gold, solid blue, etc. there is a way to register them as the correct color.

While parti yorkies can be registered with AKC, they can not be shown in the conformation ring. Their color is considered a disqualification according to the yorkshire terrier standard and rules set by the YTCA.

Thanks Michele. The parti registration is based on the parents information (and obvioulsy if they are also registered) and they also look at pictures that you are required to send in along with the registration form.

Tammy