yorkie pups

[Susan123]

Originally Posted by linda44

are biewers and parti's larger or larger bodied? I dont know if its the coloring or what but every pic Ive seen they look larger than yorkie standards.

I've often thought the same thing. I've seen alot of larger ones (no our eyes aren't playing tricks on us). I've seen few (in comparison) look like 5-7 pounds, but there are some.

[TammyJM]

I have still not found the pictures of these puppies.

Tammy

[ButterflyYorkie]

Originally Posted by Pinehaven

Tammy corrected herself if post 31.

I agree the puppies are beautiful - I'd love to fly one over to live with me!

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't see that. I need to put on my reading glasses and stop sitting here squinting.

[Susan123]

Tammy, I think they were in her first post. I don't see them now though.

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by Susan123

Tammy, I think they were in her first post. I don't see them now though.

How funny...I went back and reread it because I was so confused when people kept saying how cute they are. Ok, now I know.

Thanks!
Tammy

[Anna Lou]

When I was registering my Ziggy, I put on her papers that she was white black and tan, I did this because I was mistaking the silver growing through as white. They sent her papers back and said their should be no white. I cleared this up but I just thought I would add this.

[BakersDozen]

Originally Posted by Pinehaven

........My opinion is that a good Yorkie is never a bad color (with the exception of colors that are associated with health problems).

I know my views are the minority, but I find it appalling that we can spend hours debating the correct COLOR of a Yorkie....while thousands upon thousands of children are being SOLD as sex slaves, millions of people are starving, and a host of other truly horrible and disgusting things. Imagine if all these YT debate hours were spent doing something in our communities! Can you look into the face of an abused child in your community and apologize for not doing anything because you were spending time educating people on the importance of a Yorkie not having white hair? I can't.

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by BakersDozen

I know my views are the minority, but I find it appalling that we can spend hours debating the correct COLOR of a Yorkie....while thousands upon thousands of children are being SOLD as sex slaves, millions of people are starving, and a host of other truly horrible and disgusting things. Imagine if all these YT debate hours were spent doing something in our communities! Can you look into the face of an abused child in your community and apologize for not doing anything because you were spending time educating people on the importance of a Yorkie not having white hair? I can't.

I understand what you are saying, but this is a Yorkshire Terrier forum so we are of course going to be discussing yorkies and not children...

[BakersDozen]

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

I understand what you are saying, but this is a Yorkshire Terrier forum so we are of course going to be discussing yorkies and not children...

LOL Of course. I still find it appalling that so much energy is put into it. Some things are diversionary and relaxing to discuss, a great way to recharge yourself. Some things, like serious health problems, are necessarily discussed at length and these discussions often prove to be productive. Other things aren't and don't.

Naturally, this is just my opinion. And so that I will be standing behind it, I won't be posting again to this thread. I'm not offended at all, or upset, or feel that anything rude was said. I just think it would be hypocritical for me to continue on this thread.

[Ladyhawk]

[QUOTE=Pinehaven;1912957]I searched "Why Not White" on the internet and was unable to find the site (s) you're talking about?

You are correct on some points. Yes, the YTCA Standard has always said that the only correct adult color is blue and tan. So tell me why have black and tan, black and gold and blue and gold "off colored" dogs, entered the show ring and won championships in the past? Why do breeders (show breeders included as seen in previous threads) continue to breed the off colored black coated yorkies to their blue and tan yorkies? Black coated adults according to old standards and to the new DQ rule, are considered to be off color and not correct. I don't hear anyone saying that "those" dogs should be spayed/neutered and sold without papers or sold as pets?QUOTE]

I'm saying it. I have a 6 month old gal that I am presently holding for show. She has structure to die for and has been trained to go into the ring. She has yet to break color even on her thighs. If she doesn't break color and remains black and gold she will be spayed and sold as a pet. I can either stand by my convictions and abide by the standard or I can forfeit my title as an ethical breeder. If I were to get parti-colored pups in a litter I would sell them as pets and would not repeat that breeding. I've commited myself to breeding show quality, healthy yorkies who conform to the standard anything else would be a compromise of my ethics.

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by BakersDozen

LOL Of course. I still find it appalling that so much energy is put into it. Some things are diversionary and relaxing to discuss, a great way to recharge yourself. Some things, like serious health problems, are necessarily discussed at length and these discussions often prove to be productive. Other things aren't and don't.

Naturally, this is just my opinion. And so that I will be standing behind it, I won't be posting again to this thread. I'm not offended at all, or upset, or feel that anything rude was said. I just think it would be hypocritical for me to continue on this thread.

oh, I agree with you to a point. Color is not the main issue to me. I am more concerned with a breeder breeding healthy dogs, health screening, and fixing any issue when there is a problem. And I am more concerned with the dogs being cared for properly and puppies being placed in an excellent home. Breeding to standard is very important to me as well, but the above issues are most concerning.

[Itspuppyluv]

Originally Posted by TammyJM

I have still not found the pictures of these puppies.

Tammy

They were posted in the photo gallery. To see them now, you have to go to the photo gallery and then under p (poppyalfie) in the member galleries.

[majesticyorkies]

majestc yorkies i am new but i think you have party yorkies. you can lok them up on puppy find or goole them you will see them and they are akc yorkies hor this helps you, majesticyorkies

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

This comes from the Yorkshire Terrier Club off America:

"Parti-Color Yorkshire Terriers?

Do not be fooled into buying one of these dogs.
Now that Designer Dogs are the rage, the “new” Parti-Color Yorkie is certain to draw attention. While we have had problems in the past with “rare gold” Yorkshire Terriers being advertised, the parti-color is a new one! While some breeds have an occasional mismark and some breeds do have a gene for a white dog, we do not. Had there been a problem with white markings, piebald dogs, or white dogs, it would have been addressed in our Standard. Due to unscrupulous breeders advertising parti-colored Yorkshire Terriers at premium prices, our members voted unanimously at our annual meeting to add a disqualification for these and other off colored dogs.

The Yorkshire Terrier is a tan dog with a blue saddle. The “rare gold” Yorkie is actually a dog that appears as such due to an improper saddle pattern. Show breeders have seen this and commonly call it running gold. When the dog is cut down, you can see that the blue saddle does not come down far enough. The Yorkshire Terrier blue saddle extends lower than some of the other black and tan terriers extending to the elbow and also to the hock on the rear leg. Gold hairs can occur in the blue and black or blue hairs can appear in the gold. These faults are addressed in the Yorkshire Terrier Standard. These dogs have serious faults and they too should not be sold as "rare" but placed in loving homes as they are very incorrect. Yorkies do not have white markings…never have. A small white strip is sometimes seen on the chest of newborns but this always turns to tan within a few weeks. The AKC registration form for Yorkshire Terriers allows for four choices: blue and tan, blue and gold, black and tan, black and gold. There is no provision for markings.

A brief history of the development of the Yorkshire Terrier will show that the dog was developed in the 1800’s. In England, the Waterside Terrier was often crossed with the old English terrier, a silky coated black and tan or blue and tan terrier weighing around five pounds. When crafters from Scotland came into England, they brought several “Scotch“terriers, among them the Paisley and the Clydesdale. The Paisley was a small silky coated dog in various shades of blue. The Clydesdale was a blue and tan dog with the exact color pattern as the Yorkie of today. All of these original breeds were grizzle, tan, blue, blue and tan, or black and tan. No white dog or dogs with white markings were involved in the process of developing the breed. The first Yorkshire Terriers were entered at shows as Broken Haired Scotch and Yorkshire Terriers. In the early days, dog classes were often divided by size, under five pounds and over five pounds; however, there was never a class for colors other than the blue and tan we see today. The color pattern and coat texture has bred true and has been dominate enough that the Silky Terrier evolved by crossing the Yorkshire Terrier and the Australian Terrier with basically the same coat of the of the Yorkie."

See: http://www.ytca.org/faq.html#C



.

Thanks for posting that!!! Too bad DNA wasnt around years ago!!

[GreenwoodBiewer]

Originally Posted by Susan123

I've often thought the same thing. I've seen alot of larger ones (no our eyes aren't playing tricks on us). I've seen few (in comparison) look like 5-7 pounds, but there are some.

I can't help you on the Party Yorkies, but the Biewers Standard is the same "size" standard as the Yorkies.. up to 7 lbs. However, in my opinion, there does seem to be some consistency issues in regards to the size that we are working on. The german breeders may not have seen it as an issue or liked having somewhat larger dogs in some cases. So, I think you are correct in noticing that some of the dogs are larger than what your used to seeing... especially in the show ring. We are trying to breed to standard and out of my 8 Biewers, so far the largest is just over 6.5 lbs. The real trick seems to be getting a female that's gets large enough to keep for breeding.
-Diana