Healthy puppies versus rescue
 

I didnt want to hijack a couple threads so wanted to post this on my own.

While I believe its a great thing to rescue a dog.
I rescued a beagle I still cant pet after almost 2 years.
He was beat and is deathly afraid of people.
While people need to learn about Puppy Mills and True BYBing operations
I can state for a fact...that there are few ,if any Yorkies, Maltese or ANY of these small mix types of dogs in *shelters or the pounds* here in Ohio
Pitbull and Lab , Shepherd, Chows and other large mixes ...yes...
Tons of large black dogs!!!!
Labs were the #1 favorite dog this year , and it was also the most euthanized dog.
They did a spot on the news here in Ohio about it just a month or so ago...

When others I know who have TRIED to rescue a small dog there are none.
The Rescues get them!!!!!!
Now rescues...yes there are some but my question is this
Why does it cost HUNDREDS sometimes to rescue a dog?!?!?!
I seen $$ in eyes here too...
Its one thing to get them from abusive owners and puppy mills etc.... and charge small amounts for spaying / medical care they've had.
But why are they getting them from the pound or shelters?
People are calling everyday about small dogs...there are none..Try it...
They did a spot on the news here in Ohio about it that too a couple years ago.

Its a huge thing to pay for a dog who may have all kinds of personality and/or health problems.(like Hound Dog)
People do it every day...Bless them but its not for everyone.

Its disheartening to read because some of us breed.
Be it the professional breeders or small hobby breeder.
Adopt...Adopt... Adopt....when some people just want their own healthy new puppy.
AS much as we would all love to save all the dogs...its not going to happen
And I dont think anyone should be made to feel bad for wanting that special puppy of there own.
And I dont think that being a caring hobby breeder should be put down on YT

And PETA?
PITA is what I call them...They dont even want me to eat my fish out of my own pond....Sorry for the rambling....LOL!

I understand what you are saying. I went to petfinder.com looking for rescue yorkies or other small breeds, and they were $550 from a "rescue" place! Why would someone pay that much money for a dog that they possibly cannot have around children or company at all, that quite possibly has bad personality issues? I mean, there are people out there that will, if they have that kind of money and a big heart for doing that kind of thing. But most people will say "shoot, for that much money, I can get a registered purebred puppy". Not all rescues are in it for the greater good, and are no different than a puppy mill.
I agree on the PETA thing too. When you get down to exactly what they believe, they say we should not even have any pets. No eating animals, no housing animals, that means no pets, no burgers, just coexisisting with animals running wild apparently. If they took a look at one of our cutesy little yorkie pics with a topknot and a dress on, they'd be on like white on rice...white rice that is. :rolleyes:

While I would like to think that ALL rescues are in it for the love of animals.
It just isnt so...Its another Business to make $$
This poor gal tried to rehome her pup only to findit later FOR SALE!!
So its not just rescues....Its about the money
This was just a day or so ago....sad...http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=123870

And You're right...I dont have small kids.
But I would never have them around Hound Dog..
I almost know he'd bite them if cornered.
And kids try petting them :( You just dont know.....

money
 

It is nice when a rescue is privately funded, but most are not...I have had a number of rescues over the years. Some cost me almost nothing to rehome...others needed spaying/neutering/dental/vaccinations to the tune of $400 to $800 ..it would be much more in 2008!
Everyone wants a free Yore, I guess they think if you have to pay a good sum of money you are serious and won't return it if th slightest problem comes up.

I can imagine some are in pretty bad shape...and that just makes me ill.
And I know you have to get your money back that you spent.
You....... I'm sure didnt pad the price to make $$ :thumbup:
Some are VERY passionate about it and do it for next to nothing...
But some just arent like that...

I totally agree with you!:thumbup: Here in Canada, the Canadian Yorkshire Terrier rescue group is located in Ontario, so unless you live there, forget about getting a rescue yorkie. Even if you could, it has to be to a home with no kids, fenced in yard, no smoking home, etc, etc. Then they want a fee of between $500-$1000. for the dogs to cover the vet bills! I continuously check the Humane Society and the SPCA and I have never in ,3 yrs, heard of a Yorkie or other small breed being in need of adoption.:(

:bravo: :bravo: :bravo:

I agree with everything said here. Especially about PETA. I saw a documentary about its founder, and she is just plain Nuts!

Loved the white on rice comment....LOL

Same thing here You can check for years and not find a Yorkie.
Or a Maltese or a Shih Tzu or any other small breeds
And I am from Ohio that has some of the most Puppy Mills
(thanks to the amish)
Its just not going to happen.
So Its just unfair to say adopt a dog.
I'm sorry but if Im paying 500-1000 from a rescue and not knowing what more its going to cost me...What its temperment is or its health
I'm not doing it. Everyone deserves a good healhy puppy.
And not to be made to feel bad about it.
As much as we'd all love to....We cant save them all
Its sad...but its just the truth.

Oh dont ch even get me going on PITA...lol:p
And I wanted to add....
When I first joined there was a YT'er who sang the praises of adopting and rescue ...
Next thing you know shes talking about breeding this one and that one.
Can we say more $$$$$$
she never posted in the breeders section.
But I was like oh my gosh...this is Horrible...:mad:

HAHAHA...if you "talk" to others........ MOST feel this way.
On YT and other forums, some are afraid to say it.
They dont want flamed
Not me :p I try my best to be open ....Honest and nice.
But I do speak my mind
Be careful also...some of those LOW adoption fees are scams!
Never send money to someone .
Some even say...you just pay for the airfare...
Then no dog....scams..

This is so very true!! I live in Ohio as well and to find a small dog in a shelter, let alone a yorkie or yorkie cross is next to impossible!! And the waiting list for them are so long as well. If you are waiting for a yorkie to rescue around here, you will be waiting for a very long time!!

I have to say that I know of several extremely reputable yorkie rescues, and the reason they charge between $200-$500 is because of all the money they put into the yorkies.

The rescues that I am speaking take in extremely sick dogs, dogs with behavioral problems, and yes, sometimes healthy dogs. They have bloodwork done on all of the dogs, spay/neuter, and any kind of treatment that they may need for whatever illnesses they might have.

Dogs who need liver shunt surgeries or surgery for LP are extremely costly. It's nothing for them to pour between $2000-$3000 on a lot of these sick dogs that come in. The organizations I am speaking of are non-profit and they rely strictly on donations and adoption fees. That means that they are STILL putting out more money on the dogs than they even take in. They donate their time, money, etc.

I think it's extremely wrong to categorize yorkie rescues as scams just because they charge between $200-$500 for their dogs. They do this to pay for medical bills, and so that they can rescue *more* dogs. They do this to afford treatment on these sick dogs that they know can live healthy lives after surgery/treatment/meds, so that they can live out very happy, healthy lives in their new homes...

Wow, I am in absolute shock at your post....

My entire thread is informative. The reason I mentioned the word scam is because in one of the posts, it is mentioned that some rescues are businesses who are out there just for money, which is not the case when it comes to non-profit organizations that I specifically mentioned in my post.

I have never ever posted an inflammatory post in all of my years on this board, and anyone who knows me on here can attest to that.

There's nothing wrong with not adopting from a rescue...I have absolutely no problem with that. I, myself, purchased and did not adopt my 2 furbabies.

I have absolute no idea why you are so defensive....All I did was state important information.

The only reason I posted in the first place is that I think it's important for people to know WHY they charge so much money for rescues...And the reason is because of all the money they put into the many sick dogs that they take in and rehabilitate.

Today is my first day on here in quite awhile..This is actually one of the first threads I have read in a very long time, and I thought I could contribute to the discussion...I feel that I have been wrongly accused of being harsh, and I am still in shock to your reaction...

I only posted to inform about the prices of NON-profit rescue organizations, that's it...

Ditto. We see rescues at my vets sometimes - but I've never personally seen or heard of a Yorkie rescue. With all the puppy mills out there I'm sure there are good yorkie rescuers, I just haven't seen any myself.

Goodness gracious, now I'm dithering....I'm going out into the sunshine and take my dogs for a walk.

You said in your last post.

I think it's extremely wrong to categorize yorkie rescues as scams just because they charge between $200-$500 for their dogs. They do this to pay for medical bills, and so that they can rescue *more* dogs. They do this to afford treatment on these sick dogs that they know can live healthy lives after surgery/treatment/meds, so that they can live out very happy, healthy lives in their new homes...

I replied back to a post whos siggie was looking for the right Yorkie for me
I never categorize yorkie rescues as scams.
I never used the word "scams" for REPUTABLE rescues
Didnt say it and I dont think it.
But I'm sorry but not all of Rescues or individuals who rescue are reputable...
I know a LOT of money goes into making these animals well, as I'm sure most on this forum do.
You yourself say There's nothing wrong with not adopting from a rescue...I have absolutely no problem with that. I, myself, purchased and did not adopt my 2 furbabies.
Thats what I was saying ....Not ALL rescues are bad, I think most of them have their heart in the right place.
But dont feel bad because you want a healthy good tempered trustful puppy from a breeder.

I have absolute no idea why you are so defensive....All I did was state important information.
Yes your info was great...
I too am one of the easiest people to get along with
I' m sorry if you felt it was harsh.

Many people that adopt a rescued dog be it a Yorkie or any kind of dog do it for very personal reasons. It's not about the price but about saving another dog. It is about helping other dogs out also because most reputable rescues are normal people living in their homes opening up their own checkbook to make these little ones healthy before they move on to their next home. Some of the dogs come in healthy but still need a health check ups, some come in very ill and need lots of medical attention...when you donate you are donating for all the dogs that come through rescue not the one you take home. You are not purchasing a dog from a reputable rescue like you do from a breeder and most reputable rescues have a 501K so it is tax deductable.

Yes, sorry to say, some people have turned their breeding practices into rescue or have trolled the pounds to make money off of rescue. This is no different than unreputable breeders who are doing the same thing. Life has some pretty nasty people out there that will use animals to their advantage.

In regards to not finding many Yorkies in pounds/animal shelters is because many of these organizations know they would not survive in these conditions and would rather the dogs went into a reputable rescue where they have a chance to survive and be placed into the best home for the rescue.

Rescue is never the right place to go to get a cheap rescue but the place to go if you believe in saving a dog.

Excellent post, Cindy.

While I don't know alot about rescues, here or anywhere, I would incline to agree with the OP that there are good & bad ones out there. That seems to be the case with just about anything.
I do know that on every occasion that I have been to our humane society, not once have I ever see a yorkie to adopt. Yes, they do sometimes have a few small breeds and cute little puppies (little large breed puppies). For people like myself who want a yorkie, finding a reputable breeder is IMO, the best option left.
I also sadly agree that as much as we would like to see ALL dogs live long happy lives in loving homes, it mostl likely will never happen.
Maybe for us yorkie lovers that can't or choose not to adopt from a rescue or the humane society, be it because of breed or health issues, we can instead donate a little of our time or a little money to help them out.

Thank you.

Adopting a rescue dog is not for everyone but everyone can help.

When I met Andy he had a rescue dog and his name was Plum Loco.
I laughed when he told me his name, he said you will understand when you meet him.
As soon as I met him I understood his name. * he was completely crazy with so much energy)
This dog had been adopted thru the shelter twice and brought back.
When he adopted him the man told him, you will be back with him. Andy said what do you mean? When I make a committment such as this I keep it.
He said OK sure we will see.
Well Loco was indeed a high energy dog and he had Parvo and Andy got him thru that, they were best friends and yes this dog indeed would not have made it with just anyone, you just really had to have the heart and energy and determination that it was going to work. Loco lived many years and he became my best buddy when I moved in. I was a dog lover from the day I was born so he was just another great dog to love.
We had many crazy days with this lovely boy. I miss him to this day but I totally understand he would be a difficult dog to adopt out and it work. Not everyone could have handled him. He was indeed unique but so full of love for you and for life.
Another rescue we went thru that was totally the opposite.
This was a Yorkie who was 5 years old, neutered all shots up to date and freshly groomed and also the older lady that had kept him up so well had made an appt for him to be put down the same week she had done all of his updated shots and his grooming and she had always taken wonderful care of this dog. She was tired of him, finished just done that was it for her.
He had bit her grandkid (who had kicked him)
we got an a email that had been sent to 10 breeders, the sad thing is we were the only breeder that got back in touch to help this boy out.
Needless to say he was not a problem dog he was just in the wrong home.
But it was going to cost him his life if the groomer had not reached out for someone to save him. Rescues get all types of dogs.
it is indeed sad.

Deana
Prestigeous Yorkies

Great post Cindy. :thumbup:

I'm only speaking of Reputable Rescues here.

It is a "donation fee". A donation towards the Rescue, itself, NOT the
dog you are adopting.

Let's say the highest donation is $500. That barely covers the cost of
spay/neuter, shots, food, transportation, etc.

Not to mention a Reputable Rescue, WILL NOT adopt a dog with behavior
issues, health issues, and so on, unless there was a VERY special person
for that dog. When this happens, the donation fee is around $50, however,
most donate more. Otherwise, they stay in their foster homes, in many cases
for the rest of their lives. Which is fine, as they are loved and cared for.

Just for the record, Rescues are NOT looking for people to purchase a
particular dog from them. They are looking for those who want to
support Rescue, and are able to provide a safe and loving home. Those
who want a "cheep" dog, without having to pay for spay/neuter, shots,
etc, we can do without. The dogs are fine. They are safe, until the right
person comes along. So don't flatter yourselves, YOU are not in demand.

I joined YT awhile back. I had a precious little Yorkie coming for me to
foster. I thought I would do some research.

I must say, I have never seen such rescue bashing in all my life. A life
spent doing my best to make a difference.

I can't help but feel the "breeders" on this forum find Rescues a threat.

Yep, a threat to their "business"

Rescues do have a big expense just as breeders do.
Vet bills are pricey for everyone even pet owners.

Deana
Prestigeous Yorkies

People can help rescues by asking what type of food they are feeding and donate food and pet beds etc.
There are so many ways you can help even as a breeder, if you do not feel comfortable volunteering your time at a shelter due to the fact you have young pups or what have you. They need a lot of things at the shelters and the rescues and that is one great way for breeders and pet owners to step up and help out. They need anything we can help out with.

Deana
Prestigeous Yorkies

Absolutely!!! The shelters even need litter boxes. What works best,
are the short card-board cases, dog/cat food comes in. Save those,
along with old towels, blankets, etc. Yep, stuff we normally throw out
is GOLD to the shelters. It means so much.

Good mention, Prest. So many ways to help these precious souls.

And food, oh yes, drop off that bag, your dog will not eat.