Dogs breeding but not in heat? - YorkieTalk.com Forums

MindieRose · 03-13-2008, 03:07 AM

I know this sounds rediculous, but Lola is not in heat. My mom told me that while I was at church last night, she went to let my dogs in my house after she let them out to go potty, and Lola and Joe were hooked together.

I said "What do you mean?" and she thought I was stupid. I told her Lola isnt even in heat, isnt due to come into heat for a couple more months, and I planned on her breeding then, but she has had no signs of coming into heat. Lola is OBVIOUS when she is in heat. She bleeds a lot, she swells huge, her boobs get big, and she doesnt let Joe NEAR her. The only thing different I have noticed about her over the past 2 weeks is that she has been holding her tail down. Her tail has never been down, its always been super tightly curled up. I thought perhaps she was holding it down because Diesel keep biting it and pulling on it all the time

I even checked her 2 days ago because I noticed Joe trying to mount her (which isnt terribly uncommon anyway) a lot, and figured she could go into heat early, but there was nothing. She is shaved right now too (posted about how TICKED I was at the groomer), so I would REALLY notice the swelling.
I asked my mom if she was sure they were hooked together. Once again she thought I was stupid and got offended that apparently I thought she was stupid being that she used to breed and show dobermans, but it just made no sense to me.
My mom said that maybe he raped her

For one thing, Joe is so passive, he wont even eat his food until the other dogs are done eating. And another thing, when she was in heat last time, I didnt have to worry about them breeding because she wouldnt let him.
I would be happy if they did indeed breed, since I planned on it anyway, but I didnt plan on it right now, and I am very confused as to how this could have happened.

tjdmom · 03-13-2008, 04:50 AM

Well... I'm reading a book right now by Myra Savant-Harris and if she is correct... you're male's nose is the best indicator. Dogs aren't like people, it's all about procreation. But I'm not a breeder so maybe someone with more knowledge than me will speak up.....

Ladyhawk · 03-13-2008, 05:02 AM

Sounds like a silent heat to me. You'll know for sure in about 5 or 6 weeks.

Susan123 · 03-13-2008, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tjdmom

Well... I'm reading a book right now by Myra Savant-Harris and if she is correct... you're male's nose is the best indicator. Dogs aren't like people, it's all about procreation. But I'm not a breeder so maybe someone with more knowledge than me will speak up.....

Just wanted to say that I'm a big fan of Myra Savant Harris. Would love to take in a seminar. Enjoy the book!

tjdmom · 03-13-2008, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Susan123

Just wanted to say that I'm a big fan of Myra Savant Harris. Would love to take in a seminar. Enjoy the book!

Thanks! I'm kicking myself because they just had a seminar here in Nov and I didn't go. I wish I had now....

bjh · 03-13-2008, 06:06 AM

I have heard of female dogs allowing males to breed them when they are not in heat but it is not very common. Has your female had puppies before? I can't imagine a virgin female allowing that to happen.

03-13-2008, 03:07 AM	#1
MindieRose Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,280	Dogs breeding but not in heat? I know this sounds rediculous, but Lola is not in heat. My mom told me that while I was at church last night, she went to let my dogs in my house after she let them out to go potty, and Lola and Joe were hooked together. I said "What do you mean?" and she thought I was stupid. I told her Lola isnt even in heat, isnt due to come into heat for a couple more months, and I planned on her breeding then, but she has had no signs of coming into heat. Lola is OBVIOUS when she is in heat. She bleeds a lot, she swells huge, her boobs get big, and she doesnt let Joe NEAR her. The only thing different I have noticed about her over the past 2 weeks is that she has been holding her tail down. Her tail has never been down, its always been super tightly curled up. I thought perhaps she was holding it down because Diesel keep biting it and pulling on it all the time I even checked her 2 days ago because I noticed Joe trying to mount her (which isnt terribly uncommon anyway) a lot, and figured she could go into heat early, but there was nothing. She is shaved right now too (posted about how TICKED I was at the groomer), so I would REALLY notice the swelling. I asked my mom if she was sure they were hooked together. Once again she thought I was stupid and got offended that apparently I thought she was stupid being that she used to breed and show dobermans, but it just made no sense to me. My mom said that maybe he raped her For one thing, Joe is so passive, he wont even eat his food until the other dogs are done eating. And another thing, when she was in heat last time, I didnt have to worry about them breeding because she wouldnt let him. I would be happy if they did indeed breed, since I planned on it anyway, but I didnt plan on it right now, and I am very confused as to how this could have happened. __________________ Proud Mommy of Gavin, Ethan, Morgan, Nia, Olivia, and Kiana and baby #7! Also Mommy to furkids: Cleo ,Lola, Lilly Appletini, and Diesel. and Sunny, Ethan's Golden therapy dog in training.

03-13-2008, 05:02 AM	#3
Ladyhawk YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,808	Sounds like a silent heat to me. You'll know for sure in about 5 or 6 weeks. __________________ Tami

03-13-2008, 04:50 AM	#2
tjdmom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: upstate ny Posts: 5,847	Well... I'm reading a book right now by Myra Savant-Harris and if she is correct... you're male's nose is the best indicator. Dogs aren't like people, it's all about procreation. But I'm not a breeder so maybe someone with more knowledge than me will speak up.....

03-13-2008, 06:06 AM	#6
bjh Donating YT 5000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 7,959	I have heard of female dogs allowing males to breed them when they are not in heat but it is not very common. Has your female had puppies before? I can't imagine a virgin female allowing that to happen.