Has Anyone heard of Nikki M in Arcadia, CA? - Page 2 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

MindieRose · 03-20-2008, 05:50 PM

I have a question. I have noticed when someone new comes here and posts about a breeder, suddenly there are more new people that have never posted before that know the same breeder

I'm just wondering how you all came to the same site at the same time, having experiences with the same breeder?

KathyinCali · 03-20-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MindieRose

I have a question. I have noticed when someone new comes here and posts about a breeder, suddenly there are more new people that have never posted before that know the same breeder

I'm just wondering how you all came to the same site at the same time, having experiences with the same breeder?

Very observant and I had the same thought as you

011011 · 03-21-2008, 04:10 AM

I wonderd the same thing Hmmmm.

MindieRose · 03-21-2008, 08:20 AM

I am not trying to disrespect by any means, I would just hate for a decent breeder being attacked over one person having a disagreement with them, and following it up with either mulitple accounts on a forum, or having their friends get online and tell stories about them. I am not saying this is the case here, but reading a lot of breeder reviews I have noticed the same pattern.
If people are having a legitimate problem with a breeder, by all means people need to know if they intend on buying a dog from them. However, there is a such thing as slander, and if I were a breeder that was dealing with something of that nature, I would exersize all avenues of having a person prosecuted for it.

RebelBelle · 03-24-2008, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MindieRose

I have a question. I have noticed when someone new comes here and posts about a breeder, suddenly there are more new people that have never posted before that know the same breeder

I'm just wondering how you all came to the same site at the same time, having experiences with the same breeder?

I'm not sure but I think it's possible that they are just googling for information about their 'breeder' and looking for some recourse since they have ill puppies from her and land at YT.

GoldenMilesLV · 03-26-2008, 10:42 AM

Did I say Research? Its so important to make sure that everything is on the up and up before giving your money to a complete stranger. Ask for references, Vet referrals and breeder referrals. Do Google searches but also searches on msn, ask, yahoo, ect......Different things come up on different search engines. This is one of the best websites that you can utilize as well. There are many experienced people on here. Good Luck!!!!

poohchk25 · 03-26-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MindieRose

I am not trying to disrespect by any means, I would just hate for a decent breeder being attacked over one person having a disagreement with them, and following it up with either mulitple accounts on a forum, or having their friends get online and tell stories about them. I am not saying this is the case here, but reading a lot of breeder reviews I have noticed the same pattern.
If people are having a legitimate problem with a breeder, by all means people need to know if they intend on buying a dog from them. However, there is a such thing as slander, and if I were a breeder that was dealing with something of that nature, I would exersize all avenues of having a person prosecuted for it.

I originally started this thread and it wasn't my intention to "slander" the breeder. I tried researching to see if anyone else had mentioned this breeder before but I didn't find any information and so I started my own thread. I don't think that it is slander when people are referencing their own experiences. I wanted to make a note of mine. I am a first time buyer and looking for a lot of input. If people are writing about the similar experiences with the same breeder, it should be known that this breeder is questionable. There are too many "breeders" out there and it's always good to know the pros and cons of a breeder.

If it's evident that there are only cons about a breeder, then it should set off a red flag to those who are considering purchasing a puppy from this breeder. I think the advice given here should be taken into consideration.

poohchk25 · 03-26-2008, 11:05 AM

and by the way, I posted ONE post about my questionable experience. I did not have any disagreements with the breeder. I just didn't like her style and left. The others are from other YT members.

BobbyYorkie · 03-26-2008, 11:20 AM

I bought Bobby From Nikki, My experience with her was just OK. Now I love my baby very much. I have not recieved any registration papers from her even though she promised them to me. I did see the mommy doggy. She said that the daddy was being a stud at the time. She did spend a few hours with me. Even went shopping with me to get Bobby his first needs. I thought she was very attentive. She did give him his shots, and yes the record is on an index card. But she is going to Vet school and currently works at a clinic so I did not think anything of it. (I was also not as ready as I should have been when I bought him because my hubby just decided to get him for me for my bday) She also did the Micro chipping.

Bobby has been very healthy. He is a great baby. He is a little bigger than what she had said, but he is just a doll. I bought bobby from her in August. He was 11 weeks old at the time.

I dont think I would buy from her again, because of the registration papers and because I am now more experienced and have read tons of Yorkie talk postings! THere were red flags now that I am aware of, but Bobby is a very healthy happy baby!

nina42 · 05-20-2008, 05:06 PM

I too had a very negative experience and feel like she is just out to make a buck. I don't think that people are saying negative things here to slander her but I was pressured into putting a deposit on a Boston and later told that it was a non-refundable and that I had 2 days to make a decision. I think that anyone who truly loves dogs would never pressure anyone. She was also very unprofessional - first she changed the appointment from 11am to noon after we had already left (we live about an hour plus way). She told me her friend had shown up to take her to church and that she had forgotten. At 12:30pm she had not shown up so we called...she said she would be there in 15 minutes. Another buyer arrived and we all waited until she showed up at 1:30p...ironically - no friend was driving her as she pulled in by herself.

She basically peer pressured me into putting a deposit for a dog I was uncertain i even wanted (I need to fly often with the dog so she has to be UNDER 15 lbs). Since there was another buyer that really wanted the dog..she convinced me to put a deposit down and to think about it. I saw the dogs mom but not the dad and I was a little surprised how big the mom was. Nikki told me these pups were very very small for their age and that I would never find small bostons like this again! I foolishly put down a deposit. Immediately when i left I realized i made a mistake. I called to cancel and was not only told it was non-refundable but that i had 2 days to make a purchase or loose the deposit!! I was so upset. This was supposed to be a happy day and instead now i'm out $300 and don't have a pup. Long and short is she has not returned calls or emails. I'm going to fight this out with my credit card company but my recommendation is that she's all sales. Anyone who genuinely loves dogs would never pressure such an important decision. Furthermore, other breeders i met later warned me that other folks had complaints and felt they too had been duped.

amanda350 · 05-22-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KathyinCali

Very observant and I had the same thought as you

It seems to me that the two new people you are referring to are married since they are from the same town and they are talking about the same dog..

ckuz13 · 05-22-2008, 01:57 PM

From my experience,, one red flag usally leads to another. As soon as you get those butterflies in your gut..Start asking questions. If it seems as though you know more about the breed then they do..you most likely do. Take control. This is no place for pressure. If you are being made to believe this is your only chance then leave..This is not a breeder this is a con artist using innocent animals to make a buck. Dogs are not in short supply. Take your time, do the legwork, Call local veterinarians..the staff will most likely let you know if they have a yorkie breeder as a client. You are the buyer...you have the right to be cautious and the right to sleep on it with no pressure. Don't let Caifornia be any breeders excuse for high prices..I lived their for 26 yrs and know the game..haha. Gold Dust has nice yorkies..only a state away..

BusyDogParent · 09-08-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by poohchk25

Hi everyone! My name is Pam and I am new to YT. My apologies for the long post but I really wanted some insight from more experienced buyers/breeders. I have been actively looking for a yorkie for the past couple weeks and came across a local breeder named Nikki M. from Arcadia, CA and wanted to know if anyone has had any experiences with her.

I can't remember where I found her from, maybe breeder.net but she told me she had 4 puppies available. I contacted her earlier in the week and expressed my interest and she called again today and I went to meet her at the house. She told me to call her when I got off the freeway. I called her twice on the way there - once because I was running late and the second time because I was lost. She did not pick up. I finally found the house and she opened the door and told me to give her a few minutes because someone else was picking up their dog. She asked me to wait in my car, which I thought was peculiar.

After she was done with the other family, I went inside the house and she asked me if I wanted a boy or a girl. I told her I wanted a boy and about 10 minutes later, she brought out a boy. He was simply adorable. I proceeded to ask her some questions and she answered them for the most part, although it seems that she did so hesitantly. I told her I have been doing some research and sometimes health problems don't surface until 5 or 6 years of age. Her dogs come with 1 year congenital guarantee, she hasn't had problems before (this is her second litter and she says she only breeds once a year), and told me that sometimes, health problems can't be found and there's nothing she could do about it. She said she spends a lot of money on the parents (whom she bought from a well known breeder) to make sure they are healthy.

She told me that another person was interested in the dog and that she would give them an answer once she knew mine. I asked her if that meant I had to make a decision right then and there. She said yes. She was asking $1400 for the dog, which I thought was a little steep since she didn't seem like a professional breeder to me, and it wasn't a decision I was ready to make at that instant. I told her I wanted to show my mom the pictures I took on my phone, she told me to email the pictures, and I told her that my mom doesn't use the computer. She then told me that I could put a deposit down on the dog to hold her and let her know later so that she can tell the other interested buyer that the dog was spoken for.

I have always grown up with dogs in the family but for the most part, we get them from friends or adopt them from the pound. This is the first time I am looking to buy from a breeder. I preferred that it was local because if there was a problem with the dog, I could bring it back directly to the breeder. I'm just wondering what I can do to protect myself as a buyer. This particular seller seemed awfully pushy to me, which is what led me not to buy the dog, among other things. Are breeders normally this pushy when they supposedly want their "dog to be put in a good home"? What questions and answers should I be looking for from sellers and what red flags should I be aware of. Any help would be awesome. Thanks!

I purchased a pug from her about 1 year ago. We too had to wait in our car so I guess she is selling lots of dogs. She is basically a back yard breeder. I love my dog but it had a congenital defect (LCP disease) that we had to have surgically fixed. She said she had never heard of the disease. I would not buy from her again. Also, you should look for the "puppy lemon law" in California. Breeders have to take back dogs or help pay for medical expenses. My advice is to find someone else.

lmahler · 09-26-2008, 09:32 AM

I stumbled across this website and am so glad that I did. I see that I'm not the only one who has had issues with Nikki. I'd be very interersted in talking to all of you. Please let me know if your concerns were addressed.

Thank you.

Lisa

phillykaooo · 11-10-2008, 09:29 PM

Me and my girlfriend got a shih tzu from her in august. We thought we were the only ones being scammed, but after finding this forum, we saw that many others were treated this way. We too have never gotten registration papers. Luckily our puppy didnt have any major problems. Has anyone thought of filing a claim?

The puppy lemon law of california states: Failure to Produced Advertised Registration Papers: yes, within 120 days, otherwise return dog for full refund or receive refund of 75% of purchase price if you keep the dog.

We are actually thinking about filing a claim and whoever would like to participate with us in righting a wrong please contact me. thanks. This cannot be kept going on any longer.

03-20-2008, 05:50 PM	#16
MindieRose Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,280	I have a question. I have noticed when someone new comes here and posts about a breeder, suddenly there are more new people that have never posted before that know the same breeder I'm just wondering how you all came to the same site at the same time, having experiences with the same breeder? __________________ Proud Mommy of Gavin, Ethan, Morgan, Nia, Olivia, and Kiana and baby #7! Also Mommy to furkids: Cleo ,Lola, Lilly Appletini, and Diesel. and Sunny, Ethan's Golden therapy dog in training.

03-21-2008, 08:20 AM	#19
MindieRose Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,280	I am not trying to disrespect by any means, I would just hate for a decent breeder being attacked over one person having a disagreement with them, and following it up with either mulitple accounts on a forum, or having their friends get online and tell stories about them. I am not saying this is the case here, but reading a lot of breeder reviews I have noticed the same pattern. If people are having a legitimate problem with a breeder, by all means people need to know if they intend on buying a dog from them. However, there is a such thing as slander, and if I were a breeder that was dealing with something of that nature, I would exersize all avenues of having a person prosecuted for it. __________________ Proud Mommy of Gavin, Ethan, Morgan, Nia, Olivia, and Kiana and baby #7! Also Mommy to furkids: Cleo ,Lola, Lilly Appletini, and Diesel. and Sunny, Ethan's Golden therapy dog in training.

03-26-2008, 10:42 AM	#21
GoldenMilesLV Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 29	Research Research Research Did I say Research? Its so important to make sure that everything is on the up and up before giving your money to a complete stranger. Ask for references, Vet referrals and breeder referrals. Do Google searches but also searches on msn, ask, yahoo, ect......Different things come up on different search engines. This is one of the best websites that you can utilize as well. There are many experienced people on here. Good Luck!!!! __________________ I love my boys Miles, Buddy,Wrigley and my husband

05-20-2008, 05:06 PM	#25
nina42 YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1	Do not get dogs from Nikki! I too had a very negative experience and feel like she is just out to make a buck. I don't think that people are saying negative things here to slander her but I was pressured into putting a deposit on a Boston and later told that it was a non-refundable and that I had 2 days to make a decision. I think that anyone who truly loves dogs would never pressure anyone. She was also very unprofessional - first she changed the appointment from 11am to noon after we had already left (we live about an hour plus way). She told me her friend had shown up to take her to church and that she had forgotten. At 12:30pm she had not shown up so we called...she said she would be there in 15 minutes. Another buyer arrived and we all waited until she showed up at 1:30p...ironically - no friend was driving her as she pulled in by herself. She basically peer pressured me into putting a deposit for a dog I was uncertain i even wanted (I need to fly often with the dog so she has to be UNDER 15 lbs). Since there was another buyer that really wanted the dog..she convinced me to put a deposit down and to think about it. I saw the dogs mom but not the dad and I was a little surprised how big the mom was. Nikki told me these pups were very very small for their age and that I would never find small bostons like this again! I foolishly put down a deposit. Immediately when i left I realized i made a mistake. I called to cancel and was not only told it was non-refundable but that i had 2 days to make a purchase or loose the deposit!! I was so upset. This was supposed to be a happy day and instead now i'm out $300 and don't have a pup. Long and short is she has not returned calls or emails. I'm going to fight this out with my credit card company but my recommendation is that she's all sales. Anyone who genuinely loves dogs would never pressure such an important decision. Furthermore, other breeders i met later warned me that other folks had complaints and felt they too had been duped.

09-26-2008, 09:32 AM	#29
lmahler YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Winnetka, CA, USA Posts: 1	Help!!! I stumbled across this website and am so glad that I did. I see that I'm not the only one who has had issues with Nikki. I'd be very interersted in talking to all of you. Please let me know if your concerns were addressed. Thank you. Lisa

03-21-2008, 04:10 AM	#18
011011 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 1,432	I wonderd the same thing Hmmmm.

03-26-2008, 11:05 AM	#23
poohchk25 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pomona Posts: 28	and by the way, I posted ONE post about my questionable experience. I did not have any disagreements with the breeder. I just didn't like her style and left. The others are from other YT members.

03-26-2008, 11:20 AM	#24
BobbyYorkie Donating YT Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: california Posts: 629	I bought Bobby From Nikki, My experience with her was just OK. Now I love my baby very much. I have not recieved any registration papers from her even though she promised them to me. I did see the mommy doggy. She said that the daddy was being a stud at the time. She did spend a few hours with me. Even went shopping with me to get Bobby his first needs. I thought she was very attentive. She did give him his shots, and yes the record is on an index card. But she is going to Vet school and currently works at a clinic so I did not think anything of it. (I was also not as ready as I should have been when I bought him because my hubby just decided to get him for me for my bday) She also did the Micro chipping. Bobby has been very healthy. He is a great baby. He is a little bigger than what she had said, but he is just a doll. I bought bobby from her in August. He was 11 weeks old at the time. I dont think I would buy from her again, because of the registration papers and because I am now more experienced and have read tons of Yorkie talk postings! THere were red flags now that I am aware of, but Bobby is a very healthy happy baby!

05-22-2008, 01:57 PM	#27
ckuz13 YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 351	From my experience,, one red flag usally leads to another. As soon as you get those butterflies in your gut..Start asking questions. If it seems as though you know more about the breed then they do..you most likely do. Take control. This is no place for pressure. If you are being made to believe this is your only chance then leave..This is not a breeder this is a con artist using innocent animals to make a buck. Dogs are not in short supply. Take your time, do the legwork, Call local veterinarians..the staff will most likely let you know if they have a yorkie breeder as a client. You are the buyer...you have the right to be cautious and the right to sleep on it with no pressure. Don't let Caifornia be any breeders excuse for high prices..I lived their for 26 yrs and know the game..haha. Gold Dust has nice yorkies..only a state away..

11-10-2008, 09:29 PM	#30
phillykaooo YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: la jolla Posts: 1	nikki sue her Me and my girlfriend got a shih tzu from her in august. We thought we were the only ones being scammed, but after finding this forum, we saw that many others were treated this way. We too have never gotten registration papers. Luckily our puppy didnt have any major problems. Has anyone thought of filing a claim? The puppy lemon law of california states: Failure to Produced Advertised Registration Papers: yes, within 120 days, otherwise return dog for full refund or receive refund of 75% of purchase price if you keep the dog. We are actually thinking about filing a claim and whoever would like to participate with us in righting a wrong please contact me. thanks. This cannot be kept going on any longer.