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Kbsqueff · 03-04-2008, 05:18 AM

Very interesting thread...

Yorkie Luv of 3 · 03-04-2008, 05:24 AM

i find it all interesting but confusing,, lol,, but i'd never heard of Biewers til a yr or so ago,, but most i've seen are just beautiful,, kinda like bigger Parti colored Yorkies, , Biewers arent a recognized AKC breed yet are they?? i'm just asking,, i've personally never seen one aside from online,, and i see some beautys here,, just an interesting thread here,, Ya'll have a great day!! Suns Up!!

BamaFan121s · 03-04-2008, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkiekist

OK, here is another question. If the Biewer people are trying to get a separate breed and it looks like they have done that because of the registries for them, in Germany and now in the USA, then why must they continue to breed with Yorkies? I thought they were a "separate breed" and "not a Yorkie" and can stand on their own.

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Originally Posted by tjdmom

ok. so is this correct... a yorkie bred to a biewer can be registered?

LOL...yet AGAIN...it depends on WHO you ask and which US 'registry' you are referring to...that is an something that those working with the breed do not all agree on.
As far as Biewers being their own "breed," that also depends on who you ask--some say it is, some claim otherwise. Doesn't make it so because there are some organizations allowing them to be 'registered.' (There are some registries that allow "designer breeds" to be registered.)
Each group has their own views and opinions on these and understandably each group feels they are in the right. These are not questions that you can get one, universally agreed on answer for.

hha · 03-04-2008, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkie Luv of 3

i find it all interesting but confusing,, lol,, but i'd never heard of Biewers til a yr or so ago,, but most i've seen are just beautiful,, kinda like bigger Parti colored Yorkies, , Biewers arent a recognized AKC breed yet are they?? i'm just asking,, i've personally never seen one aside from online,, and i see some beautys here,, just an interesting thread here,, Ya'll have a great day!! Suns Up!!

No, they are not recognized by AKC

KathyinCali · 03-04-2008, 07:33 AM

Very interesting. Thanks everyone for their point of view

MyFairLacy · 03-04-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkie Luv of 3

i find it all interesting but confusing,, lol,, but i'd never heard of Biewers til a yr or so ago,, but most i've seen are just beautiful,, kinda like bigger Parti colored Yorkies, , Biewers arent a recognized AKC breed yet are they?? i'm just asking,, i've personally never seen one aside from online,, and i see some beautys here,, just an interesting thread here,, Ya'll have a great day!! Suns Up!!

They should NOT be bigger than a yorkie. The standard for a Biewer is 7lbs and under as well. However, I've seen larger biewers just like there are larger yorkies. A biewer should look exactly like a yorkie except for being tri-colored. Some seem to have a heavier silk coat as well. And then the tail is left undocked. No, they aren't AKC. Some groups are pushing for that and some are not at the moment.

scrapindee · 03-04-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tjdmom

ok. so is this correct... a yorkie bred to a biewer can be registered?

Again, this depends on the registery and the Club. Some of the U.S. clubs prefer Biewer to Biewer only. Some clubs allow purebred Yorkie to Biewer. And some allow Biewer to splitter (a yorkie).

Tnyorkiemom · 03-08-2008, 08:00 AM

my Smokey is a splitter (dad-biewer/mom-yorkie).....he is CKC registered.....and yes they do sometimes take on both colors and characteristics......Smokey's body is more like his mom's and his head and legs are more like the daddy......look at my avatar.....i get asked all of the time what kind of yorkie he is........

scrapindee · 03-08-2008, 08:31 PM

He has a darling face.

Tnyorkiemom · 03-09-2008, 10:23 AM

thanks....it is so strange because just a year ago i didnt even want a dog in the house...lol...and now .....well he runs the house........lol.......he just looks at me with that cute face and i melt....but he is proof that a splitter doesnt always look like a standard yorkie...he did when he was born....but he already had a white and gray chest and some white on his face...

GreenwoodBiewer · 03-09-2008, 05:36 PM

This is a very interesting thread on a very interesting subject and I really appreciate that everyone is asking questions and giving answers so nicely..sometimes this subject gets a bit out of hand and the information that people would like to hear gets lost in the shuffle..

Splitters (Yorkie/Biewer breedings) can be registered in Germany. I am in the process of registering a litter now. This litter is two females that look totally like Yorkies (F1) Now, next time, when I breed one of these girls with a full Biewer, I should (?) have a litter where some of the pups will look like Biewers and some will look like Yorkies. I have not done so previously, but I have been told that when I register these puppies, the ones that look like Biewers will be registered as Biewers and the ones that look like Yorkies will be registered as Yorkies.(in Germany) Neither of the two clubs I work with here in the states will register my splitter female puppies but that's OK with me as I will have them registered in Germany. All of my breeding Biewers are German registered and I will just continue to register my breeding dogs that way..

-Diana

This is the first time I have bred the "splitters" so this information is just based on research not on to much personal experience yet so I'm open if someone has something to add.

pammy2806 · 03-25-2009, 01:40 PM

hi there, hope this helps you a little, my friend has got a biewer she put him to a yorkie and we got four biewer puppies, which i brought a puppy named her angel, i also own two spliters which you can see the biewer in them. the biewer over here is not known to the uk yet.

Tnyorkiemom · 03-25-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by scrapindee

I'll try to add to the explanation.

A biewer mated to a biewer produces biewers.

A biewer mated to a splitter (1/2 yorkie, 1/2 biewer--looks like a yorkie usually) will produce some biewers and some splitters.

A splitter mated to a splitter can produce either splitters or biewers.

Pruett · 03-27-2009, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkiekist

OK, here is another question. If the Biewer people are trying to get a separate breed and it looks like they have done that because of the registries for them, in Germany and now in the USA, then why must they continue to breed with Yorkies? I thought they were a "separate breed" and "not a Yorkie" and can stand on their own.

Good question. If the Biewer is a Yorkie with a reccessive piebald gene, then what makes it a distinct breed of it's own? Wouldn't it just be a Parti Yorkie?

AprilLove · 03-28-2009, 05:40 PM

Parti Yorkie has american roots, Biewer has its roots in Germany. Simple

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03-04-2008, 05:24 AM	#32
Yorkie Luv of 3 Ayla now makes it 4!!! Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Louisiana(home) & Texas(work) Posts: 1,711	i find it all interesting but confusing,, lol,, but i'd never heard of Biewers til a yr or so ago,, but most i've seen are just beautiful,, kinda like bigger Parti colored Yorkies, , Biewers arent a recognized AKC breed yet are they?? i'm just asking,, i've personally never seen one aside from online,, and i see some beautys here,, just an interesting thread here,, Ya'll have a great day!! Suns Up!! __________________ Cricket~Proud Petite Pup! Daisy~Proud TeaPot!! & Trixie ~Texas Girl & Ayla~Cherokee Baby! Yorkies!!! What's Not to Love!

03-04-2008, 07:33 AM	#35
KathyinCali Love My Li'l Lucy Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,700	Very interesting. Thanks everyone for their point of view __________________ Kathy and Lil' Lucy and Jammies Rest in Peace my Sweet Buster

03-08-2008, 08:00 AM	#38
Tnyorkiemom Smokey's Mommy!! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Georgetown Tn Posts: 1,914	my Smokey is a splitter (dad-biewer/mom-yorkie).....he is CKC registered.....and yes they do sometimes take on both colors and characteristics......Smokey's body is more like his mom's and his head and legs are more like the daddy......look at my avatar.....i get asked all of the time what kind of yorkie he is........ __________________ Mommy and Daddy Sugar Freckles Smokey Romeo Ally Niecy Alissia and Ariella

03-08-2008, 08:31 PM	#39
scrapindee Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Redlands Posts: 4,842 Blog Entries: 2	He has a darling face. __________________ Scrapindee--Team Furry & the Biewers www.houseofwags.com

03-09-2008, 10:23 AM	#40
Tnyorkiemom Smokey's Mommy!! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Georgetown Tn Posts: 1,914	thanks....it is so strange because just a year ago i didnt even want a dog in the house...lol...and now .....well he runs the house........lol.......he just looks at me with that cute face and i melt....but he is proof that a splitter doesnt always look like a standard yorkie...he did when he was born....but he already had a white and gray chest and some white on his face... __________________ Mommy and Daddy Sugar Freckles Smokey Romeo Ally Niecy Alissia and Ariella

03-04-2008, 05:18 AM	#31
Kbsqueff YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rio Grande do Sul - BRAZIL Posts: 1,054	Very interesting thread...

03-09-2008, 05:36 PM	#41
GreenwoodBiewer YT Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 458	This is a very interesting thread on a very interesting subject and I really appreciate that everyone is asking questions and giving answers so nicely..sometimes this subject gets a bit out of hand and the information that people would like to hear gets lost in the shuffle.. Splitters (Yorkie/Biewer breedings) can be registered in Germany. I am in the process of registering a litter now. This litter is two females that look totally like Yorkies (F1) Now, next time, when I breed one of these girls with a full Biewer, I should (?) have a litter where some of the pups will look like Biewers and some will look like Yorkies. I have not done so previously, but I have been told that when I register these puppies, the ones that look like Biewers will be registered as Biewers and the ones that look like Yorkies will be registered as Yorkies.(in Germany) Neither of the two clubs I work with here in the states will register my splitter female puppies but that's OK with me as I will have them registered in Germany. All of my breeding Biewers are German registered and I will just continue to register my breeding dogs that way.. -Diana This is the first time I have bred the "splitters" so this information is just based on research not on to much personal experience yet so I'm open if someone has something to add.

03-25-2009, 01:40 PM	#42
pammy2806 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: staffordshire uk. Posts: 22	hi there, hope this helps you a little, my friend has got a biewer she put him to a yorkie and we got four biewer puppies, which i brought a puppy named her angel, i also own two spliters which you can see the biewer in them. the biewer over here is not known to the uk yet.

03-28-2009, 05:40 PM	#45
AprilLove My Three Hearts Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wrapped around their paws :-) Posts: 7,190	Parti Yorkie has american roots, Biewer has its roots in Germany. Simple ....... ........ __________________ MaryKay AprilLove Wubs Moosie R.I.P. Bailey & BitsyRoo Last edited by AprilLove; 03-28-2009 at 05:42 PM.