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TeddyandTiffy · 02-23-2008, 09:48 PM

We don't show Yorkies at all and to be honest I don't know if I ever could after reading here on YT what U show Ladies/Gentlemen go through....It must be exhausting & so very stressful for U... I don't think people give the Show People enough credit for all the do and go through to have these beautiful doll, let alone show them!!! And yes it has to be so expensive also...
And for the CH line or name and breeding rights I would and did pay a high price!! To me she was well worth every single penny spent, U know when I adopted her I adopted her breeder as well, her knowledge...(Her Breeder is Tami "Lady Hawk" and she is the one that told me when I adopted Sage I adopted her as well!!! I never knew this until she told me!!!) She has helped me with Tiffanie and Teddys' last litter any questions I have she answers truthfully even if it isn't what I want to hear!!! And guess what her Sage hasn't even been bred yet! Won't be until the Spring 2009!! But she is my God Sent, without her & this Forum where would I be??? Another Backyard Breeder??? Is worth every dime spent on Tami alone let alone our baby!! I don't think everyone here really truly understands all it take so whelp a litter of babies, let alone finding the right homes for them!! It's sad to see so many dolls go to the "What we thought was the prefect home and later find out they aren't the perfect home to where our dolls are being inbred and used every single heat to breed and then probably used sometime even on their 1st heat"!!!

BamaFan121s · 02-23-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MindieRose

Ok, so because I have small children I should not have a dog? My small children are excellent with my dogs.
And a good breeder wont sell to someone who is going to breed? Arent "good breeders" supposed to be producing good puppies that would be of good breeding quality?

I think the main concern of people selling to people who want to breed is that they are providing a breeding dog to someone who has taken the time to educate themselves on the process first and who is willing to proceed with it in an ethical, responsible manner...not just someone wanting to breed for money. How is a breeder supposed to know who has honorable intentions in mind? Just take their word for it? Unfortunately, you can't do that these days.
As far as children....depends on the child. I have a 7 year old who is better with these dogs than alot of adults I know. She had it drilled into her head from a very early age. But again, how is a breeder supposed to know? Take someone's word for it? A breeder retains the right to place one of their dogs in an environment THEY feel comfortable with. Alot of children are not brought up to know how to handle dogs and if a breeder is not comfortable taking that chance, that is their right.

TeddyandTiffy · 02-23-2008, 10:36 PM

I work part time outside of our home, but I work full time with every single Yorkies I have!! 5 of them, I get up every single morning, feed, water, change blankies, wash beds out, wash 5 faces, put 5 pony tails in, clean litter boxes, change puppy pads, redo ponytails, feed and water again, sweep and mop their floors, water on and off all day long, break up puppy fusses, plus doing their laundry and bathing all 5 of them every week which by the way takes me around 4 to 5 hours to do!!! Plus I have 2 daughters to care for, their baths to give (Well help my 9 yr old wash her hair) homework, meals to cook, our laundry, our house to clean, we run our own construction business so there's the book work on that to do, plus a man to care for on top of our Yorkies! I work my BUTT off inside my home forget the OUTSIDE WORK, anyone who says I don't work I'd gladly give them my INSIDE job for 1 day!! I keep asking my hubby if I die will he do all I do for my Yorkies, guess what no answer to be truthful he probably wouldn't be able to do it all!!! So breeding and raising Yorkies right in a clean well kept home isn't for the weak and I don't even show them, well I do I show them here at my home they are to me my prize babies even tho they have no ribbons on the wall from any wins they have won my heart, this is why I breed!! For the love of my breed and yes they are my breed! I cherish all the time invested in my loves, I cherish all the sleepless nights, all the pee and poo I clean, yes since I've had so many babies I have HUGH bags under my eyes!! Why sleepless nights, worrying where how my adopted dolls are!! That's why.
I have given and yes I said given 2 of our Yorkies away along with their Mother (Which I had spayed before rehoming her!!) and all supplies they needed even made a 8 hour trip, there and back to Ohio to make sure they had a good loving home!! Did I make a dime from those 3 babies why no but I got the joy and so did their parents of knowing they will live long lives being loved and wanted!! I didn't and haven't made tons from adopting Yorkies out!!! None of my dolls has been adopted out for no more then $500.00 and some didn't even reach 5 lbs. at 20 months old. I have all the cost on our 1st litter with Teddy and Tiffanie and we're in the hole with them so no there's no money to be made here at my home in raising Yorkies!! And I know we're in the hole with our last litter no doubts there I haven't even added it all up yet and yes I keep all receipts for each and every penny spent on ALL our Yorkies!!! And no I don't see it as loosing money I see it as a joy to raise Yorkies and try to better our breed (I'm Working on breeding toward the AKC Standards and not away from it!!!)
And as far as the adverting it does help us find good homes for our babies here I found a wonderful home for one of our babies through YT... In the case of Dillin "Moe" he was a wedding gift to a new bride from her new groom out of GA. His aunt found him here and he went to his new parent through her...He has the best home he could ever ask for, his own room, tons of clothes, toys, walks everyday and most of all love. We only have "Pet Quality" babies with a spay/neuter contract only with our previous litters and he was adopted for $500.00 far from my starting asking price of $800.00 out of our 5 babies we have adopted out to homes only 1 (DILLIN) out of 5 babies has been spayed/neutered and that is the sad part of this, one I've never laid eyes on, parents won't answer any call so I'd say she's been bred!! They have no papers so they must be adopting them out without them!! If it wasn't for this forum my Dillin would of never found his forever home!! He was 6 months old when he was adopted!!!! And not at a high price!!!

TeddyandTiffy · 02-23-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MindieRose

Ok, so because I have small children I should not have a dog? My small children are excellent with my dogs.
And a good breeder wont sell to someone who is going to breed? Arent "good breeders" supposed to be producing good puppies that would be of good breeding quality?
I guess this is why I shouldnt come in here, lol.

I will not adopt one of our Yorkies to a home with very small children due to experience in my own home, when we brought our 1st Yorkie home Teddy he was just 1 & 1/2 lbs at 6 weeks old, and my daughter who was 9 at the time climb on top of our countertop to get something down out of the cabinet when she jumped back down off the countertop she landed right on top of Teddy!! He squalled and yelped & yes I thought he was dead but God love him he was fine not a thing wrong with him!! That right there taught me a very good lesson!! For if it can happen with a 9 year old then what can a toddler unsupervised do to one??? Oh yes I have a 2 year old granddaughter who cherishes our Yorkies and lives to see them and yes hold them but I NEVER EVER leave her ALONE with them!! She NEVER holds them without one of us right there with her!! Just a valuable lesson for me as a Yorkie owner and Breeder!!

MyFairLacy · 02-23-2008, 10:55 PM

I don't plan to have any children for several reasons...but I was telling someone the other day that one reason I'm not having kids is so that I won't have any problems finding a yorkie. LOL My dogs will be my children

hha · 02-24-2008, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TeddyandTiffy

I work part time outside of our home, but I work full time with every single Yorkies I have!! 5 of them, I get up every single morning, feed, water, change blankies, wash beds out, wash 5 faces, put 5 pony tails in, clean litter boxes, change puppy pads, redo ponytails, feed and water again, sweep and mop their floors, water on and off all day long, break up puppy fusses, plus doing their laundry and bathing all 5 of them every week which by the way takes me around 4 to 5 hours to do!!! Plus I have 2 daughters to care for, their baths to give (Well help my 9 yr old wash her hair) homework, meals to cook, our laundry, our house to clean, we run our own construction business so there's the book work on that to do, plus a man to care for on top of our Yorkies! I work my BUTT off inside my home forget the OUTSIDE WORK, anyone who says I don't work I'd gladly give them my INSIDE job for 1 day!! I keep asking my hubby if I die will he do all I do for my Yorkies, guess what no answer to be truthful he probably wouldn't be able to do it all!!! So breeding and raising Yorkies right in a clean well kept home isn't for the weak and I don't even show them, well I do I show them here at my home they are to me my prize babies even tho they have no ribbons on the wall from any wins they have won my heart, this is why I breed!! For the love of my breed and yes they are my breed! I cherish all the time invested in my loves, I cherish all the sleepless nights, all the pee and poo I clean, yes since I've had so many babies I have HUGH bags under my eyes!! Why sleepless nights, worrying where how my adopted dolls are!! That's why.
I have given and yes I said given 2 of our Yorkies away along with their Mother (Which I had spayed before rehoming her!!) and all supplies they needed even made a 8 hour trip, there and back to Ohio to make sure they had a good loving home!! Did I make a dime from those 3 babies why no but I got the joy and so did their parents of knowing they will live long lives being loved and wanted!! I didn't and haven't made tons from adopting Yorkies out!!! None of my dolls has been adopted out for no more then $500.00 and some didn't even reach 5 lbs. at 20 months old. I have all the cost on our 1st litter with Teddy and Tiffanie and we're in the hole with them so no there's no money to be made here at my home in raising Yorkies!! And I know we're in the hole with our last litter no doubts there I haven't even added it all up yet and yes I keep all receipts for each and every penny spent on ALL our Yorkies!!! And no I don't see it as loosing money I see it as a joy to raise Yorkies and try to better our breed (I'm Working on breeding toward the AKC Standards and not away from it!!!)
And as far as the adverting it does help us find good homes for our babies here I found a wonderful home for one of our babies through YT... In the case of Dillin "Moe" he was a wedding gift to a new bride from her new groom out of GA. His aunt found him here and he went to his new parent through her...He has the best home he could ever ask for, his own room, tons of clothes, toys, walks everyday and most of all love. We only have "Pet Quality" babies with a spay/neuter contract only with our previous litters and he was adopted for $500.00 far from my starting asking price of $800.00 out of our 5 babies we have adopted out to homes only 1 (DILLIN) out of 5 babies has been spayed/neutered and that is the sad part of this, one I've never laid eyes on, parents won't answer any call so I'd say she's been bred!! They have no papers so they must be adopting them out without them!! If it wasn't for this forum my Dillin would of never found his forever home!! He was 6 months old when he was adopted!!!! And not at a high price!!!

My hubby already told me if I die first, and we still have this many dogs, he would have to rehome them all...he travels for a living...I have 4 inside dogs, and all 4 trained to piddle pads, know exactly where you're coming from..

blitz · 02-24-2008, 05:58 AM

I think we should make a list of the pet pushers. But then you would get the posts of

"No fair, if it weren't for "FiFi's mommy", I wouldn't have my precious baby"

Hmm, well maybe you paid top $$$ for your precious baby who has ears like a Papillion and you don't even realize it because puppy love is blind.

My friend brought a girl from a "top breeder" and paid 3,500 and at 1 year old, the dog weighs over 10 pounds. She would never say anything because the dog is the love of her life. Well, that's what these breeders count on and you, the pet buying public are being had and what's more, the sweet people who sell you these dog, know they are taking advantage of you but smiling to your face and chatting you up and down.

Don't pay top price from any breeder who does not actively show their dogs. There is a big difference in quality and there should be a big difference in price.

TeddyandTiffy · 02-24-2008, 06:12 AM

Oh and I also forgot the no sleepin' in part of my Yorkie Job!! Yes that right now that my 2 youngest daughters (9 & 12) are just starting to sleep in till say 9 or 10 well my Yorkies babies will NOT sleep in they get up NO later then 8 am!!! Every single day!! No holidays, no vacations!!! Who is gonna babysit my Yorkies?? Who will do ALL I do for them?? Take them to a dog sitter (No Offense to those who do this Dog Sitting Job) why that would cost as much as our spending money on Vacation!! So there is more to Breeding and raising Yorkies then some people think, some may make money but they are doing it the right and proper way! Even I am still learning and I'm what U would call a Young Breeder compared to those who have been doing it for 15 plus years!

MindieRose · 02-24-2008, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TeddyandTiffy

I will not adopt one of our Yorkies to a home with very small children due to experience in my own home, when we brought our 1st Yorkie home Teddy he was just 1 & 1/2 lbs at 6 weeks old, and my daughter who was 9 at the time climb on top of our countertop to get something down out of the cabinet when she jumped back down off the countertop she landed right on top of Teddy!! He squalled and yelped & yes I thought he was dead but God love him he was fine not a thing wrong with him!! That right there taught me a very good lesson!! For if it can happen with a 9 year old then what can a toddler unsupervised do to one??? Oh yes I have a 2 year old granddaughter who cherishes our Yorkies and lives to see them and yes hold them but I NEVER EVER leave her ALONE with them!! She NEVER holds them without one of us right there with her!! Just a valuable lesson for me as a Yorkie owner and Breeder!!

Well I dont know if you seen my post in general, but my cousin who is 30 just accidentally killed her dog the very same way just the other day. Accidents happen to people of all ages, probably more so with adults than children. I know by far more adults that have accidentally killed their dogs (running them over with the car, letting them out to run into the street, leaving antifreeze where it shouldnt be, etc.) from when I worked in the vets office. I never had a dog come in that had been injured by a child. Not saying it doesnt happen, because it does, but it happens all the time with adults more so.
I have raised my babies with my dogs. My kids are taught from birth how to handle animals. I think it would be rediculous to never have had my dogs because I didnt want my kids to break them. I want my children to love animals just as much as I do, and withholding animals from them would be counterproductive.
I understand that a breeder has a right to sell to whomever they want. With my shih tzus, I always prefer they go to a home with children. I dont want them to become little nippy crabs because they were never around children. I think children help shape a dog into a friendlier pet.
My grandma has my Joe's brother Murphy. Everytime we ar there the dog runs and hides and if my kids try to touch him, he nips at them. Joe would never do that.

Ladyhawk · 02-24-2008, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TeddyandTiffy

Oh and I also forgot the no sleepin' in part of my Yorkie Job!! Yes that right now that my 2 youngest daughters (9 & 12) are just starting to sleep in till say 9 or 10 well my Yorkies babies will NOT sleep in they get up NO later then 8 am!!! Every single day!! No holidays, no vacations!!! Who is gonna babysit my Yorkies?? Who will do ALL I do for them?? Take them to a dog sitter (No Offense to those who do this Dog Sitting Job) why that would cost as much as our spending money on Vacation!! So there is more to Breeding and raising Yorkies then some people think, some may make money but they are doing it the right and proper way! Even I am still learning and I'm what U would call a Young Breeder compared to those who have been doing it for 15 plus years!

Why Lee you do get to sleep in! Around her my babies are up between 5 and 6 every morning. They don't recognize weekends or holidays, they think dad always has to get up at that time. And a nap? Try getting 7 dogs to all get sleepy when you actually have the time to take a nap. As soon as you get everyone settled someone hears something and off they go a barking! Believe me I wouldn't do this if I didn't love it because I could make more money working a job that pays minimum wage and get alot more sleep! I've been up since 3:45, they are presently sleeping and I'm not.

blitz · 02-24-2008, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NanaDtreasures

We do make money.

Not everytime...no...c-sections, vets bills etc.play in to PROFIT
But if we all charge for additions...shows, fairs...hotel costs...equipment....food...vet bills etc.
I guess I'll never "make money" to pay off my farm.LOL!
Just like anything else we enjoy ,it costs money to have them..go figure......
We cant just deduct everything off and say...wow...I didn't even break even on that horse...goat...puppy etc.

I have had many animals that I did lose money.
But never make money? Come on ladies....
Now slice my throat....lol

Thank you for saying it!

They tell you their horror stories about how they had a c-section and lost all the puppies, and yes, it happens, but how about the 4 other litters they produced with 4 puppies each that you sold for $5,000.00 (or more) per litter? It's not a crime but it is a fact that for some reason, nobody wants to admit! Why shouldn't a breeder make a few bucks for all the work they do to produce top Yorkies that people want? Even if they put it back into their dogs, they do it because that's what they want to do... It's their money.

(I'm not talking about pet pushers here, I'm sorry, I find them to be like hillbillies because they refuse to go forward and improve their dogs and don't even see that their dogs are below standard)

bchgirl · 02-24-2008, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom

You might be surprised how reasonable puppies from many show breeders are, especially if you want a male. Most breeders don't want to keep males after they reach sexual maturity so many are priced much less than females.

A puppy from a show breeder will very likely end up being cheaper in the long run even if you pay a bit more initially. Those $500 puppies are usually from backyard breeders who don't do health testing and are not doing any genetic screening for problems inherent to the breed. They can cost much more in vet bills over the course of their life.

The $500 figure from a show breeder came from this thread.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=118224

bjh · 02-24-2008, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MindieRose

Well I dont know if you seen my post in general, but my cousin who is 30 just accidentally killed her dog the very same way just the other day. Accidents happen to people of all ages, probably more so with adults than children. I know by far more adults that have accidentally killed their dogs (running them over with the car, letting them out to run into the street, leaving antifreeze where it shouldnt be, etc.) from when I worked in the vets office. I never had a dog come in that had been injured by a child. Not saying it doesnt happen, because it does, but it happens all the time with adults more so.
I have raised my babies with my dogs. My kids are taught from birth how to handle animals. I think it would be rediculous to never have had my dogs because I didnt want my kids to break them. I want my children to love animals just as much as I do, and withholding animals from them would be counterproductive.
I understand that a breeder has a right to sell to whomever they want. With my shih tzus, I always prefer they go to a home with children. I dont want them to become little nippy crabs because they were never around children. I think children help shape a dog into a friendlier pet.
My grandma has my Joe's brother Murphy. Everytime we ar there the dog runs and hides and if my kids try to touch him, he nips at them. Joe would never do that.

You sound like a very knowledgeable dog owner that has knows the responsibilities of owning a dog. When you talk to a potential puppy buyer and ask questions you can get a feel as to if you think they will be suitable parents to your puppies. If someone calls that has very small children under 6 years old, and they say there have never had a small house dog and they don't know anything about caring for a young puppy then I nicely explain what all is involved in caring for a puppy when there are small children in the house and the dangers involved. If, after talking to them, I don't think they would be suitable parents I say 'I prefer not selling my puppies to homes with small children, I hope you understand'. I get no arguments and most people are very understanding. Now, if the person has small children and the people already have a Yorkie or have had experience with small dogs and I feel they would be responsible owners then I would sell them a puppy. I see ads all the time on a local site where people sell dogs and the people say they are selling their Yorkie because they are afraid their children will hurt it. The same can be said for people that work full time jobs, I see ads from people selling their Yorkie because after them newness wears off, they realized how much responsibility the Yorkies are and they don't have quality time for them. As for selling pups with full registration, that is something I had always done because that is how I was taught but now I am trying to do things differently and be more discriminating as to who I give breeding rights to. It is our responsibility as breeders to try and place our puppies in suitable homes and educated the new owners.

hha · 02-24-2008, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MindieRose

Well I dont know if you seen my post in general, but my cousin who is 30 just accidentally killed her dog the very same way just the other day. Accidents happen to people of all ages, probably more so with adults than children. I know by far more adults that have accidentally killed their dogs (running them over with the car, letting them out to run into the street, leaving antifreeze where it shouldnt be, etc.) from when I worked in the vets office. I never had a dog come in that had been injured by a child. Not saying it doesnt happen, because it does, but it happens all the time with adults more so.
I have raised my babies with my dogs. My kids are taught from birth how to handle animals. I think it would be rediculous to never have had my dogs because I didnt want my kids to break them. I want my children to love animals just as much as I do, and withholding animals from them would be counterproductive.
I understand that a breeder has a right to sell to whomever they want. With my shih tzus, I always prefer they go to a home with children. I dont want them to become little nippy crabs because they were never around children. I think children help shape a dog into a friendlier pet.
My grandma has my Joe's brother Murphy. Everytime we ar there the dog runs and hides and if my kids try to touch him, he nips at them. Joe would never do that.

this is EXACTLY how I feel...the way I look at it, is if a puppy jumps out of the arms of a child, it most likely isn't going to die(kids are so short), but, the last few yorkies I've heard of dying, have jumped out of an adults arms or have been accidentally killed by an ADULT..not a child...my kids, and now my g-kids were always raised to know how to treat and to respect dogs..my g-daughter is 5 and terrible(not the mean way), but, she loves these dogs so much, she won't leave them alone..they kiss her in the mouth, and she loves it..she goes out with the big dogs and throws their balls, she's just fantatic..I've seen adults (yes, adults, that say I'd never hit a puppy), actually do just that, my g-daughter would hit her mom before ever hitting a puppy...

tiggerr36792 · 02-24-2008, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TeddyandTiffy

Oh and I also forgot the no sleepin' in part of my Yorkie Job!! Yes that right now that my 2 youngest daughters (9 & 12) are just starting to sleep in till say 9 or 10 well my Yorkies babies will NOT sleep in they get up NO later then 8 am!!! Every single day!! No holidays, no vacations!!! Who is gonna babysit my Yorkies?? Who will do ALL I do for them?? Take them to a dog sitter (No Offense to those who do this Dog Sitting Job) why that would cost as much as our spending money on Vacation!! So there is more to Breeding and raising Yorkies then some people think, some may make money but they are doing it the right and proper way! Even I am still learning and I'm what U would call a Young Breeder compared to those who have been doing it for 15 plus years!

8 AM wow thats late around here! I am up as early as 4 am and latest I get to sleep in is 6 am if I am really really lucky and theres a blue moon out, hahaha. I have your routine too and it is a constant thing with no long breaks what so ever. Heck just today I was up at 4:30 am and the 2 pups were stinky girls so they got a bath and blow dry before I even get my first cup of morning coffee. I put my babies first and myself last around here.

02-23-2008, 10:55 PM	#155
MyFairLacy Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 11,003	I don't plan to have any children for several reasons...but I was telling someone the other day that one reason I'm not having kids is so that I won't have any problems finding a yorkie. LOL My dogs will be my children __________________ ~Magnifique Yorkies~ Purchasing from backyard breeders, pet shops, and puppymills perpetuates the suffering of other dogs. Educate yourself and buy from reputable breeders or rescue.

02-23-2008, 09:48 PM	#151
TeddyandTiffy Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seymour, Indiana Posts: 1,384	We don't show Yorkies at all and to be honest I don't know if I ever could after reading here on YT what U show Ladies/Gentlemen go through....It must be exhausting & so very stressful for U... I don't think people give the Show People enough credit for all the do and go through to have these beautiful doll, let alone show them!!! And yes it has to be so expensive also... And for the CH line or name and breeding rights I would and did pay a high price!! To me she was well worth every single penny spent, U know when I adopted her I adopted her breeder as well, her knowledge...(Her Breeder is Tami "Lady Hawk" and she is the one that told me when I adopted Sage I adopted her as well!!! I never knew this until she told me!!!) She has helped me with Tiffanie and Teddys' last litter any questions I have she answers truthfully even if it isn't what I want to hear!!! And guess what her Sage hasn't even been bred yet! Won't be until the Spring 2009!! But she is my God Sent, without her & this Forum where would I be??? Another Backyard Breeder??? Is worth every dime spent on Tami alone let alone our baby!! I don't think everyone here really truly understands all it take so whelp a litter of babies, let alone finding the right homes for them!! It's sad to see so many dolls go to the "What we thought was the prefect home and later find out they aren't the perfect home to where our dolls are being inbred and used every single heat to breed and then probably used sometime even on their 1st heat"!!!

02-23-2008, 10:36 PM	#153
TeddyandTiffy Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seymour, Indiana Posts: 1,384	I work part time outside of our home, but I work full time with every single Yorkies I have!! 5 of them, I get up every single morning, feed, water, change blankies, wash beds out, wash 5 faces, put 5 pony tails in, clean litter boxes, change puppy pads, redo ponytails, feed and water again, sweep and mop their floors, water on and off all day long, break up puppy fusses, plus doing their laundry and bathing all 5 of them every week which by the way takes me around 4 to 5 hours to do!!! Plus I have 2 daughters to care for, their baths to give (Well help my 9 yr old wash her hair) homework, meals to cook, our laundry, our house to clean, we run our own construction business so there's the book work on that to do, plus a man to care for on top of our Yorkies! I work my BUTT off inside my home forget the OUTSIDE WORK, anyone who says I don't work I'd gladly give them my INSIDE job for 1 day!! I keep asking my hubby if I die will he do all I do for my Yorkies, guess what no answer to be truthful he probably wouldn't be able to do it all!!! So breeding and raising Yorkies right in a clean well kept home isn't for the weak and I don't even show them, well I do I show them here at my home they are to me my prize babies even tho they have no ribbons on the wall from any wins they have won my heart, this is why I breed!! For the love of my breed and yes they are my breed! I cherish all the time invested in my loves, I cherish all the sleepless nights, all the pee and poo I clean, yes since I've had so many babies I have HUGH bags under my eyes!! Why sleepless nights, worrying where how my adopted dolls are!! That's why. I have given and yes I said given 2 of our Yorkies away along with their Mother (Which I had spayed before rehoming her!!) and all supplies they needed even made a 8 hour trip, there and back to Ohio to make sure they had a good loving home!! Did I make a dime from those 3 babies why no but I got the joy and so did their parents of knowing they will live long lives being loved and wanted!! I didn't and haven't made tons from adopting Yorkies out!!! None of my dolls has been adopted out for no more then $500.00 and some didn't even reach 5 lbs. at 20 months old. I have all the cost on our 1st litter with Teddy and Tiffanie and we're in the hole with them so no there's no money to be made here at my home in raising Yorkies!! And I know we're in the hole with our last litter no doubts there I haven't even added it all up yet and yes I keep all receipts for each and every penny spent on ALL our Yorkies!!! And no I don't see it as loosing money I see it as a joy to raise Yorkies and try to better our breed (I'm Working on breeding toward the AKC Standards and not away from it!!!) And as far as the adverting it does help us find good homes for our babies here I found a wonderful home for one of our babies through YT... In the case of Dillin "Moe" he was a wedding gift to a new bride from her new groom out of GA. His aunt found him here and he went to his new parent through her...He has the best home he could ever ask for, his own room, tons of clothes, toys, walks everyday and most of all love. We only have "Pet Quality" babies with a spay/neuter contract only with our previous litters and he was adopted for $500.00 far from my starting asking price of $800.00 out of our 5 babies we have adopted out to homes only 1 (DILLIN) out of 5 babies has been spayed/neutered and that is the sad part of this, one I've never laid eyes on, parents won't answer any call so I'd say she's been bred!! They have no papers so they must be adopting them out without them!! If it wasn't for this forum my Dillin would of never found his forever home!! He was 6 months old when he was adopted!!!! And not at a high price!!!

02-24-2008, 05:58 AM	#157
blitz No Longer a Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Posts: 127	I think we should make a list of the pet pushers. But then you would get the posts of "No fair, if it weren't for "FiFi's mommy", I wouldn't have my precious baby" Hmm, well maybe you paid top $$$ for your precious baby who has ears like a Papillion and you don't even realize it because puppy love is blind. My friend brought a girl from a "top breeder" and paid 3,500 and at 1 year old, the dog weighs over 10 pounds. She would never say anything because the dog is the love of her life. Well, that's what these breeders count on and you, the pet buying public are being had and what's more, the sweet people who sell you these dog, know they are taking advantage of you but smiling to your face and chatting you up and down. Don't pay top price from any breeder who does not actively show their dogs. There is a big difference in quality and there should be a big difference in price.

02-24-2008, 06:12 AM	#158
TeddyandTiffy Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seymour, Indiana Posts: 1,384	Oh and I also forgot the no sleepin' in part of my Yorkie Job!! Yes that right now that my 2 youngest daughters (9 & 12) are just starting to sleep in till say 9 or 10 well my Yorkies babies will NOT sleep in they get up NO later then 8 am!!! Every single day!! No holidays, no vacations!!! Who is gonna babysit my Yorkies?? Who will do ALL I do for them?? Take them to a dog sitter (No Offense to those who do this Dog Sitting Job) why that would cost as much as our spending money on Vacation!! So there is more to Breeding and raising Yorkies then some people think, some may make money but they are doing it the right and proper way! Even I am still learning and I'm what U would call a Young Breeder compared to those who have been doing it for 15 plus years!