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livingdustmops · 03-05-2010, 06:21 PM

While doing some research I ran across the following and I have to ask myself “Why would any organization/people that care about animals use a company that does this to animals”???…Please be warned the following 3 video’s are very graphic and will show the death of animals and the blindness of animals for cosmetic reasons or to help sell more products:

Animal Testing by Mars

YouTube - Mars Animal Testing

YouTube - Mars' Heartless Animal Experiments

Mars Veterinary launches Wisdom Panel Professional

Clearly this family doesn’t care what happens to animals but only how much profit they can make off of them. I hope everyone thinks twice before buying any of their products.

Mars, Incorporated - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Products
Many of Mars' products are famous-name brands, including:
• 3 Musketeers
• Aquarium Pharmaceuticals (recently renamed to Mars Fish Care)
• Banfield, The Pet Hospital
• Bounty
• Buckeye Nutrition
• Celebrations
• Cesar (Dog Food)
• CocoaVia
• Combos
• Dove Chocolate
• Fling
• Flyte
• Galaxy (alternative for the Dove range used in the UK, Ireland, Australia and the Middle East)
• Greenies (a bone to improve dogs' breath)
• Kudos
• Lockets (now manufactured by the Mars subsidiary The Wrigley Company)
• M&M's
• Maltesers
• Marathon (UK name for Snickers until it was renamed in 1990)
• Mars Bar
• Mars Delight
• Mars Planets
• M-Azing
• Medi-Cal (Prescription Pet Food)
• Milky Way
• Minstrels
• Nutro
• Pedigree
• Pill Pockets
• Pregnancy Plus Male Edition
• Promite
• Revels
• Royal Canin (Pet Food)
• Schmackos
• Seeds of Change
• Sheba (cat food)
• Skittles (now manufactured by the Mars subsidiary The Wrigley Company)
• Snickers Marathon Energy Bar
• Snickers
• Spillers
• Starburst (now manufactured by the Mars subsidiary The Wrigley Company)
• Summit Candy Bar
• Teasers
• Techni-Cal
• Topic
• Tracker
• Tunes (now manufactured by the Mars subsidiary The Wrigley Company)
• Twix
• Whiskas (cat food)
• Winergy
• Wisdom Panel MX Mixed Breed DNA Test
Other confections, no longer produced, include:
• Bisc & Bars
• Cookies &
• Galaxy counters (Now incorporated into the Revels brand)
• Pacers
• PB Max
• Royals
• Spangles

jencar98 · 03-05-2010, 06:27 PM

I will call them and voice my opinion - this makes me sick! You would think in this day and time any mfgr knows there are other ways to test products...and if there isn't, do we really need the product? I saw nothing on the list that really is of medical benefit?

Breezeaway · 03-06-2010, 05:15 AM

Words cannot describe how I feel about it.

Heartbreaking

mistique57 · 03-06-2010, 09:35 AM

OMG,sorry guy's i could not watch it would make me ill,I have heard of mar's doing dna testing for cross bred dog's but did not know they do animal testing digusting.

mommadog1 · 03-07-2010, 05:20 AM

WHat bothers me about these kinds of ads is that they are using pictures and video's taken of other animal testing. Some of those are very old (1960's), and they are the same images used for a lot of other animal rights video's. I happen to know for a fact those beagles were not being used by MARS, but by a dog food company.

i am NOT saying animal testing is good or bad, I have my opinions about it but it is a very wide spectrum of [my] opinions..

I do not believe any animal should suffer... But what I am bothered by is the misuse of pictures, media, etc by not even using pictures from the actual company doing the testing.. I hope that makes sense, I haven't slept yet.

yorkiemalt · 03-07-2010, 05:26 AM

I can't watch the videos but I get the idea. How heartbreaking! I can tell you one thing, I'll print out their list of products and I know for sure I'll never use another Bounty paper towel in my life!!!!

mommadog1 · 03-07-2010, 05:35 AM

I did some checking and found out that Mars funded some medical experiments at some universities to test the healthful aspects of chocolate & some of the chemicals found in the cocoa bean.

They have never tested their products on animals in the sense that they fed bunnies Skittles or rats M&Ms.

If you are basing the info on the PETA site page here:
MarsCandyKills.com // Mars' Heartless Animal Experiments

I urge you to look up each and every one of those medical experiments as they were published to see what was done and why. Then spend some time perusing other experiments that are done to test new medicine, procedures and consumer products.

Try this site to find those original publications: Google Scholar

I applaud your attempt to bring attention to this issue. People need to learn how to read all information with a critical eye - is the PETA site journalism or is it propaganda? Investigate the source of their facts and then decide for yourself.

livingdustmops · 03-07-2010, 06:15 AM

Mars is NOT just a candy company. They are a world wide company that owns many divisions. If you look at the list I submitted there is not one of their dog food/treat/hospitals that are of the highest quality for our pets. Mars makes dog food and it is not high quality food.

Mars, Incorporated - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From May 1, 2007, many Mars products made in the UK became unsuitable for vegetarians. The company announced that it would be using whey made with animal rennet (material from a calf's stomach lining, and a byproduct of veal), instead of using rennet made by microorganisms, in products including Mars, Twix, Snickers, Maltesers, Bounty, Minstrels and Milky Way.[20] The response from many thousands of consumers, particularly the Vegetarian Society's request for UK vegetarians to register their protests with Mars, generated a lot of press, and caused the company to abandon these plans shortly thereafter.[21] It has reportedly decided to switch to all-vegetarian sources in the near future in the UK.[22][23] In January 2008 the Metro newspaper reported that Mars had allegedly begun to incorporate animal derived rennet.[24]

Mars has come under criticism by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals for funding animal tests which the group alleges are inhumane, including a study regarding angiogenesis and spatial memory in which mice were force fed catechins, a candy ingredient, compelled to swim in paint, then dissected.[25] Other experiments involved life-threatening cardiac puncture of mice with inadequate anesthesia. These experiments are not required by law. PETA alleges that their only purpose is to promote increased consumption of Mars' products and that harmless tests can be done on humans.

I will always applaude PETA for bringing to light inhumane treatment of any animal. While I will never endorse some of their tactics if we didn't have PETA in this world, more animals would suffer at the greed of corporations.

mommadog1 · 03-07-2010, 06:25 AM

Propaganda is a form of communication aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position. As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience.

Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented.

The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political agenda.

“Propaganda is neutrally defined as a systematic form of purposeful persuasion that attempts to influence the emotions, attitudes, opinions, and actions of specified target audiences for ideological, political or commercial purposes through the controlled transmission of one-sided messages (which may or may not be factual) via mass and direct media channels. ”

— Richard Alan Nelson, A Chronology and Glossary of Propaganda in the United States

livingdustmops · 03-07-2010, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mommadog1

Propaganda is a form of communication aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position. As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience.

Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented.

The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political agenda.

“Propaganda is neutrally defined as a systematic form of purposeful persuasion that attempts to influence the emotions, attitudes, opinions, and actions of specified target audiences for ideological, political or commercial purposes through the controlled transmission of one-sided messages (which may or may not be factual) via mass and direct media channels. ”

— Richard Alan Nelson, A Chronology and Glossary of Propaganda in the United States

It would appear from your posts that you believe everything PETA does is propaganda and that you believe it is okay to do inhumane actions to animals.

I do not want to turn this thread away from Mars and the lack of respect they have for dogs. If you want to take your dogs to Banfield and feed them Ceasar dog food and give them a Greenie for a treat that is your right.

livingdustmops · 03-07-2010, 06:47 AM

Show me the thread...don't just put it in another thread...as I doubt I jumped on you for Royal Canin ..

mommadog1 · 03-07-2010, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livingdustmops

It would appear from your posts that you believe everything PETA does is propaganda and that you believe it is okay to do inhumane actions to animals.

I do not want to turn this thread away from Mars and the lack of respect they have for dogs. If you want to take your dogs to Banfield and feed them Ceasar dog food and give them a Greenie for a treat that is your right.

Oh yeah there ya go assuming you know what I think and believe.. You cannot get that from a few short posts/blurbs... I said I did not think it was right to hurt animals, go read it again please. Do not put words in my mouth..

YES peta is propaganda (talk about animal killers) and that is to make it that nobody should own animals, including what feeds us! They do not want us to eat meat or use ANY animal products. This is always been their goal and it is very well known and publicized and admitted by the heads at peta!

When did I say I take my dogs to banfield, feed the ceasar or a greenie?? LMAO..where did that come from?

livingdustmops · 03-07-2010, 06:57 AM

Where is the post/thread?

mommadog1 · 03-07-2010, 07:08 AM

Maybe you need to look at the other side before judging me for my opinion (based on truth). You don't think the president of peta telling the public to shut these places down, or burning them down if you cannot get them "free" is not terrorism?

Animal Scam | AnimalScam.com

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals: Funding sources, staff profiles, and political agenda

This site shows you the proof!! PETA Kills Animals | PetaKillsAnimals.com

Pet-Law: Defending the Freedom to Own Pets

Pet-Law: Defending the Freedom to Own Pets

ANIMAL RIGHTS ABUSE!* HOW AR GROUPS USE THE LAW, by Christopher Cardozo, Esq.
And there are many more like this....

mommadog1 · 03-07-2010, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livingdustmops

Where is the post/thread?

Thats ALL you care about in all this? LOL.. I would have to find it, not in the mood to look for it right now..

03-05-2010, 06:27 PM	#2
jencar98 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 6,435 Blog Entries: 3	I will call them and voice my opinion - this makes me sick! You would think in this day and time any mfgr knows there are other ways to test products...and if there isn't, do we really need the product? I saw nothing on the list that really is of medical benefit? __________________ ~Ruby, Reno, Razz, & Jack~

03-07-2010, 05:26 AM	#6
yorkiemalt Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 3,468	I can't watch the videos but I get the idea. How heartbreaking! I can tell you one thing, I'll print out their list of products and I know for sure I'll never use another Bounty paper towel in my life!!!! __________________ KimPhoebiChandler

03-07-2010, 06:15 AM	#8
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	Mars is NOT just a candy company. They are a world wide company that owns many divisions. If you look at the list I submitted there is not one of their dog food/treat/hospitals that are of the highest quality for our pets. Mars makes dog food and it is not high quality food. Mars, Incorporated - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia From May 1, 2007, many Mars products made in the UK became unsuitable for vegetarians. The company announced that it would be using whey made with animal rennet (material from a calf's stomach lining, and a byproduct of veal), instead of using rennet made by microorganisms, in products including Mars, Twix, Snickers, Maltesers, Bounty, Minstrels and Milky Way.[20] The response from many thousands of consumers, particularly the Vegetarian Society's request for UK vegetarians to register their protests with Mars, generated a lot of press, and caused the company to abandon these plans shortly thereafter.[21] It has reportedly decided to switch to all-vegetarian sources in the near future in the UK.[22][23] In January 2008 the Metro newspaper reported that Mars had allegedly begun to incorporate animal derived rennet.[24] Mars has come under criticism by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals for funding animal tests which the group alleges are inhumane, including a study regarding angiogenesis and spatial memory in which mice were force fed catechins, a candy ingredient, compelled to swim in paint, then dissected.[25] Other experiments involved life-threatening cardiac puncture of mice with inadequate anesthesia. These experiments are not required by law. PETA alleges that their only purpose is to promote increased consumption of Mars' products and that harmless tests can be done on humans. I will always applaude PETA for bringing to light inhumane treatment of any animal. While I will never endorse some of their tactics if we didn't have PETA in this world, more animals would suffer at the greed of corporations. __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products!

03-07-2010, 06:25 AM	#9
mommadog1 BANNED! Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,218	Propaganda Propaganda is a form of communication aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position. As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political agenda. “Propaganda is neutrally defined as a systematic form of purposeful persuasion that attempts to influence the emotions, attitudes, opinions, and actions of specified target audiences for ideological, political or commercial purposes through the controlled transmission of one-sided messages (which may or may not be factual) via mass and direct media channels. ” — Richard Alan Nelson, A Chronology and Glossary of Propaganda in the United States

03-07-2010, 06:47 AM	#11
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	Show me the thread...don't just put it in another thread...as I doubt I jumped on you for Royal Canin .. __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products! Last edited by Wylie's Mom; 03-07-2010 at 08:22 AM. Reason: remove deleted post

03-06-2010, 05:15 AM	#3
Breezeaway No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wildcat Country(KY) Posts: 2,114 Blog Entries: 26	Words cannot describe how I feel about it. Heartbreaking

03-06-2010, 09:35 AM	#4
mistique57 No Longer a Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: england Posts: 83	OMG,sorry guy's i could not watch it would make me ill,I have heard of mar's doing dna testing for cross bred dog's but did not know they do animal testing digusting.

03-07-2010, 05:20 AM	#5
mommadog1 BANNED! Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,218	WHat bothers me about these kinds of ads is that they are using pictures and video's taken of other animal testing. Some of those are very old (1960's), and they are the same images used for a lot of other animal rights video's. I happen to know for a fact those beagles were not being used by MARS, but by a dog food company. i am NOT saying animal testing is good or bad, I have my opinions about it but it is a very wide spectrum of [my] opinions.. I do not believe any animal should suffer... But what I am bothered by is the misuse of pictures, media, etc by not even using pictures from the actual company doing the testing.. I hope that makes sense, I haven't slept yet.

03-07-2010, 05:35 AM	#7
mommadog1 BANNED! Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,218	I did some checking and found out that Mars funded some medical experiments at some universities to test the healthful aspects of chocolate & some of the chemicals found in the cocoa bean. They have never tested their products on animals in the sense that they fed bunnies Skittles or rats M&Ms. If you are basing the info on the PETA site page here: MarsCandyKills.com // Mars' Heartless Animal Experiments I urge you to look up each and every one of those medical experiments as they were published to see what was done and why. Then spend some time perusing other experiments that are done to test new medicine, procedures and consumer products. Try this site to find those original publications: Google Scholar I applaud your attempt to bring attention to this issue. People need to learn how to read all information with a critical eye - is the PETA site journalism or is it propaganda? Investigate the source of their facts and then decide for yourself.

03-07-2010, 06:57 AM	#13
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	Where is the post/thread? __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products! Last edited by Wylie's Mom; 03-07-2010 at 08:23 AM.

03-07-2010, 07:08 AM	#14
mommadog1 BANNED! Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,218	Maybe you need to look at the other side before judging me for my opinion (based on truth). You don't think the president of peta telling the public to shut these places down, or burning them down if you cannot get them "free" is not terrorism? Animal Scam \| AnimalScam.com People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals: Funding sources, staff profiles, and political agenda This site shows you the proof!! PETA Kills Animals \| PetaKillsAnimals.com Pet-Law: Defending the Freedom to Own Pets Pet-Law: Defending the Freedom to Own Pets ANIMAL RIGHTS ABUSE!* HOW AR GROUPS USE THE LAW, by Christopher Cardozo, Esq. And there are many more like this....