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05-11-2013, 10:59 PM | #1 |
YT Addict | Emotional Support Dogs-have I asked this before? I am hoping to get Jenna registered as an emotional support dog so that she can go more places with me, as I have bad anxiety disorder and she helps calm me in public places. Does anyone have any tips on how to properly go about doing this? I've found some online places that say you don't even have to have a current mental health professional, either they will certify you online or your regular doctor can vouch for you. The dogs require no training, just the designation and papers stating the same. Just looking for information on the procedure at present if anyone has any idea where to begin. Many thanks in advance. Hope I haven't asked this question before, if I have, apologies.
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05-12-2013, 09:34 AM | #2 |
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| This is a very interesting topic and there are knowledgable people on here that will be able to assist you with this! I will be anxious to learn how to do this so I can answer this question with people I run across daily. |
05-12-2013, 09:47 AM | #3 |
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| There have been one or more extensive threads on this before I can't recall the titles. One might have had something to do with flying with a dog/Yorkie but I'm just blank as to the titles. But those were filled with post after post and I think there were even links. You might even do a Search on YT for "support" for all posts about that subject and look at the titles of threads those posts were in going back a year or more. Geez, that's another problem as I can't remember how long ago but seems it was 9 mos. to 18 mos. or so? I'll try searching for you too and hoping we can find that longest thread. Course it could have been one of those that started out about one subject and title and took a turn about emotional support dogs, etc. I hope you get the information you need. I'll see if I can help find those threads.
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05-12-2013, 09:57 AM | #4 |
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| Here's a start. Still looking for the two I talked about. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sea...archid=6495287
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05-12-2013, 10:02 AM | #5 |
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__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis |
05-12-2013, 10:05 AM | #6 |
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__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis |
05-12-2013, 03:59 PM | #7 |
YT Addict | Thank you, yorkietalkjilly, I appreciate you finding those links for me. The first one is not working but I now have a better idea as to what is required and why. I'm also a bit discouraged. I don't see any way to get Jenna certified as an emotional support dog. There doesn't even seem to be a legal site for it. It seems unless she performs a specific and obvious service, she is just seen as a pet. I can't show people my mental disability, (so much for being able to maybe even try flying again which seriously aggravates my anxiety), all I can say is she helps me with it. I don't even understand how it really works. I could get a letter from my doctor but I doubt it will achieve the desired result. It's too bad because I think a lot of people would benefit from the kind of assistance that a dog with such natural abilities can provide. Perhaps there is just not enough proof that there are dogs out there who can help people with things like agoraphobia, claustrophobia and panic attacks. I'm also suspecting she has an ability to sense blood sugar spikes and drops but that would have to be verified with training and there's no way I'm sending her away for that. Looks like a lost cause. Thank you anyway.
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05-12-2013, 07:43 PM | #8 |
YT Addict | I don't know if this was part of one of the earlier posts, but I did find this discussion and it pretty much tells me that there is no such thing as an emotional support dog as far as the ADA is concerned. It's the second page of the thread. http://servicedogcentral.org/forum/i...?topic=5857.15 I'll look into getting notes from my doctor and my veterinarian regarding Jenna's status in this matter. Perhaps they can be of more help.
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05-13-2013, 04:26 AM | #9 |
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| Maybe its something you can start by getting a local rep to sponser a bill. I imagine there would be a lot of people who would benefit from that type of care dog. Its monumental in task but it can be done. I would do online searches as I imagine there are already people out there who are working on it.... |
05-13-2013, 04:44 PM | #10 |
YT Addict | Well, there is the very real possibility we are leaving Alaska before year's end...I wonder how seriously any campaign I put forth would be taken as we have our foot out the door. I am very fortunate that certain places like Petco and Barnes and Noble and some of our mom & pop places don't mind you bringing a pup in with you, no matter if it's a pet or otherwise, but my OH keeps telling me if I just put Jenna in her carry satchel and keep her off the floor no one will care if I take her through the supermarket. I disagree and don't relish the telling off I will get if I try. (He claims he's seen wee dogs sitting in the cart basket with older ladies pushing them about there before, but that not only sounds unsafe it is unsanitary!) As it is our WalMart said absolutely not when I tried taking Jenna in with me once and I wound up deciding nothing in that store was worth going through 'just leaving my dog in the car.' Their loss, I really needed some pants. We are likely going to wind up in California somewhere. You can live a relatively isolated life in Alaska and it's no big deal, I don't have to deal with my phobias as much here but then I don't leave the house hardly at all. (That causes it's own problems.) It's being a place like the Golden State where your presence is required more in the outside world that has me very concerned about how often my triggers will be set off and how well I can function. I know Jenna helps me in that regard and perhaps being an example would go a long way in showing the need for access like this for ESAs being more acceptable and even a foundation for it established. I will have to give this a long think.
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05-13-2013, 05:00 PM | #11 |
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| I haven't read the previous threads, but do know that one of my friends was able to get a letter from her doctor stating that she had anxiety and that her dog helped her not have anxiety attacks. So she got the service dog status and was able to have her dog fly with her in-cabin from California to Europe and back. She also said that due to the American Disabilties Act that people are not allowed to ask her what "service" the dog performs, or what condition she has that warrants it. She did get a red service dog vest and ID on the internet, and has not been denied any access with her dog. That being said, as much as I would like to take one of my dogs with me to many places, I would not seek such status, just because "I want to". If too many people abuse the system and privilege it is not going to be good. When stores, restaurants, etc. post a sign no pets allowed, I respect it.
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05-14-2013, 05:16 AM | #12 | |
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As far as going into public places, you could carry a little ADA wallet size card (I made one for my Mother in Law...and I'm attaching it to this post). It reminds you and the business you're entering what they can and cannot do. They CAN ask you what service your dog performs, however, they CANNOT ask you anything about your disability. There is really no reason you shouldn't try using your dog as a Therapy Dog if it helps you cope in public. If anyone asks, you can say "Yes, her service is as a Therapy Dog (or ESD), she helps me function in public places" or whatnot. You can obtain a little ID for her if you want or even better - just get her a little patch...this is the one I got for my MIL and she pins to the back of the harness: Amazon.com: SERVICE DOG ADA Assistance Animal... . Or you could get her a little vest. And even though she may not *officially* be a Service Dog, you have little choice but to use those standards as a guide when using ESDs or Therapy Dogs, that's pretty much what everyone does (I researched this for my MIL and there are forums just about Service and Therapy Dogs - and that's what I found to be the norm). If you reallllly want this to be a reality for you though, I'd highly recommend you see a Psychiatrist - they're the ones you need for flying, and they also will be more familiar with how to write the letters correctly. They would be very understanding to your situation too, and I bet that'd be very validating for you, and give you some hope .
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05-14-2013, 09:12 AM | #13 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | I agree with Wylies Mom. It can be done! And Ca is I believe one of the most dog friendly states in the USA. My situation is different I need a physical assist dog - and well geesh he is a big bruiser and I only need this when I have flares but boy does he come in handy when I do! I wish you luck and get cracking on this project!
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05-14-2013, 03:32 PM | #14 |
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| My MIL(to be) got her poodle registered as an emotional support dog. She went to her regular doctor and he gave her the information on who to contact. It was relatively easy, he needed no training and she made him a laminated label on his harness that says 'emotional support dog' and a little card in her wallet but technically no one is allowed to ask why you have the service dog, only if it is one. He was also able to sit on the seat next to her on the airplane.
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05-15-2013, 04:25 AM | #15 |
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| I have a yorkie as my emotional support dog. I am a veteran with ptsd and deppression. All I had to do is get a service dog vest and keep my doctors note with me. As far as I have seen there is no place that you have to register your dog with. All you need is a doctors note to fly with your service dog. |
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