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11-18-2013, 11:28 AM | #1 |
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| What do u think? Pancreatitis in Dogs - Treatment and Prevention - Natural approach- PART 1 Dr. Dobias Healing Solutions Found this article on pancreatitis , now I AM confused! What do you all think of this? So much for rotation......if they say not to give your dog , beef, lamb, buffalo, and oh I can't remember what else. |
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11-18-2013, 12:22 PM | #2 |
Cedric♥Lola♥Keylo Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Gilford, NH, USA
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| I am deciding if I want to switch over to the raw diet and this is great info. Thanks for sharing.
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11-18-2013, 02:22 PM | #3 |
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| Zoey Thanks for the reference re pancreatitis. Yes all the info about proper food for this disease IS very confusing. Both pro and con articles sound great, but which is right??? I have a (nurse) friend with a toy poodle who has a 'sludgy' gall bladder and kept getting sick on the vet diets. She researched the subject and came up with the raw diet, much against the wishes of her vet. The dog has been well on the raw for some time, but who knows what the future will bring??? I was thinking of this too for my dog who had pancreatitis recently, but for now he is on Hills ID low fat kibble and canned. Then I saw a current post here, Cherie 6466, who said her dog just had a very bad P attack when on the raw and is now on Royal Canin ID! Her dog had one previous P attack before this some time ago. So now I am really confused as to what to believe. I will keep my boy on the Hills as he does well on it and LOVES it!!! |
11-18-2013, 03:08 PM | #4 |
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| I disagree and do not think processed food is evil in fact I have heard a few stories of dogs getting pancreatitis after being on raw. Everything evolves some and I think dogs bodies have evolved from when they where wild. I do think home cooking is the best over anything but I do not think eating processed dog food is such a big deal as some like to make you think in fact many dogs lives are saved by processed prescription food.
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11-18-2013, 05:09 PM | #5 |
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| Pancreatitis & Colitis affected pups need to be on a strict low fat diet, so when I started giving Princess premade raw, I wasn't sure of the high fat content. But learned that dogs use the fat for energy. She was doing so well, perfect small firm poopies, lots of energy, shiny hair...but she got colitis again. Not sure if it was the premade raw or beef canned food that triggered it. Now I'm scared to feed her any raw food (or anything beef), but not sure if that was the culprit or it was combo of both...not going to try again either. Vet said her colitis can escalate into pancreatitis if we're not careful.
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11-18-2013, 05:57 PM | #6 |
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| Wow Sorry to hear that , what are the symptoms of colitis? I was told by a vet assistant once a long time ago she said the vet says DO NOT feed your dog beef. Sorry I can't remember why.... |
11-18-2013, 06:19 PM | #7 |
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| I don't think there is a one-size-fits-all solution when it comes to food. Do what works for your pup. Different dogs thrive on different things. I don't rotate my boys' main diet of kibble. They have been eating the same brand and same flavor for 3 and 4 years almost without interruption. I tried switching Max a couple of times, and we quickly went back to what he likes. I rotate their treats (homecooked or fresh foods) a little based on what I eat.
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11-18-2013, 08:38 PM | #8 |
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| [QUOTE=Maximo;4350247]I don't think there is a one-size-fits-all solution when it comes to food. Do what works for your pup. Different dogs thrive on different things. I totally agree with that , it just gets frustrating reading about rotating to prevent food allergies,and trying to do whats best for our little fur babies and another article comes along to contradict it. |
11-19-2013, 11:00 AM | #9 | |
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| [quote=Zoey Zandaya;4350309] Quote:
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11-19-2013, 11:34 AM | #10 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| Energy congestion at T13 and L1 causes pancreatitis?? I propose that this author is not using solid biochemical principles in his interpretation and explanation and this information should have no baring on your dog's diet. Dogs that are predisposed to pancreatitis should eat a low fat and low to moderate protein diet. Beef in itself should not be bad (although it did trigger a case in my girl). It is important that that beef is very lean. If a dog has a history of pancreatitis and does well on one food it does not need to be changed. Ellie has eaten an rx food exclusively for around two years. She has not had a recurrence. While it is true that continuous exposure to a protein can cause an allergic response, the other side to that is exposure to all proteins does not mean a pup will not become allergic. Then you have nothing novel to go to. Dogs with pancreatitis issues should ideally be on an Rx or homecooked diet. If you don't like prescription food, that's okay. Homecooking is fine (if done correctly). Raw meat does NOT cause pancreatitis. However, feeding raw does NOT prevent it either. Cooked or raw isn't the issue as far as I know. The issue is the amount of each nutrient, the way those nutrients work together, and the individual dog's pancreas. This author can say whatever about natural fed dogs getting pancreatitis much less often, but the fact is he cannot prove it. If you Google the topic you will see plenty of raw fed dogs getting the disease. It may look like less get it than kibble fed dogs, but less than 5% of people feed raw, so it can't be compared.
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11-19-2013, 11:39 AM | #11 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| ETA: My dog's nutritionist believes that rotating will NOT prevent allergies if the dog is going to get one. You can search her site (petdiet.com) under the Ask the Nutritionist tab for the topic.
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11-19-2013, 12:10 PM | #12 |
T. Bumpkins & Co. Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New England
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| And she bases her advice on real science.
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11-20-2013, 11:30 AM | #13 | |
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Some dogs do fine w/beef, my other 3 can tolerate it but Princess cannot. When she was living w/my aunt, she used to give her pieces of steak & she got really sick w/colitis. I guess she doesn't do well w/beef in general, even those made for dogs.
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