Pee Pad Training

[Tuga]

Bit is 3 1/2 month old now.

- At night I close her in the bathroom and she holds until morning.
- When I'm not home I leave her at loose in the corridor and kitchen and she holds until I come back.
- When I'm with her she pees and poos all over many times!!!

If I pick her doing it I say "Bad dog, no pee here" take her to the pee pad and say "Here, pee here".
If I don't see her doing it I just clean the mess and say nothing...

Why doesn't she understand where she's supposed to do it???
She's so clever...
Am I doing anything wrong?
She obviously can hold for a long time, even during the day, so why doesn't she go to the pad when she goes?

Can anyone help me with this issue please?

[krissyb24]

Hey I would get her a crate, but it sounds like you don't want to. If you do- as soon as you let her out- go to the pads, if she goes on them- when she does praise her like crazy, and right away. Lots of treats, smiles, praise!!!
She is very young as well, so don't except to much or for it to happen over night!
When you catch her in the act- take her to the puppy pads like you said you are doing- she will get it. Say a common phrase like 'go pee' or 'hurry up'= the shorter and more distinct the better. I wouldn't say Pee here when it is right and wrong- it probably is confusing.
I would just limit it to NO- go on the pads.
When she goes off the pads- just say NO firmly, take her to the pads.
The rewards are what really do it for them in my opinion.

My baby is just over 4 months and doing very well, but I had a few days that were... frustrating.

Also- Get the Simple solutions Jumpstart puppy pads- put 4 of them down! There is also a spray... (it seemed to do the trick for me)
it will help her be attracted to them. I have heard of people that the cheap ones just dont work, not sure the kind you are using.

Goodluck! Keep us updated.

Remember HUGE party when she goes on the pads!!!!

[Sassysmama]

This is how I did it. I took my puppy of 5 wks old (she's 4 mths old now) and put her in a crate. I had a small bed I bought from walmart (only $10) in there and then outside of the bed was the pee pad. Most dogs won't pee/poo where they sleep, so it worked out great for us. She picked up the pee pad thing right away and now we can trust her around the house. Of course she had accidents at the beginning (peeing on beds, carpets, anything soft). But she eventually picked it up. Now we leave the crate open for her w/ her bed inside and she still sleeps in there at night. The pee pads are on the floor now though. Good luck! Hope this works for you!

[Gracie2006]

You could also try rubbing some of her pee on a pad, or, rubbing a pad in the puddle of pee to get the scent onto the pad. Then after you take her out from the bathroom or wherever she has been, put her directly on the pad and let her sniff it. When she goes on the pad, praise, praise, praise, and give a special treat, something she only gets when she goes on the pad. She will get the hang of it.

[Tuga]

I can't give her treats...
She's still very young and has a kind of problem with food.
If I give her anything besides her diet she'll get soft stools...
But I praise her like hell!!!

I used the crate method but stopped when she started to hold herself.
When I'm home I don't have the hart to keep her locked...

Besides that I'm doing exactly what you described and it's just not working...
She doesn't have accidents, she just doesn't care where she goes.
It's been like that for the last 2 month and I'm getting really tired of cleaning all the time, I've been REALLY patient all this time but it's really frustrating not to see ANY improvements at all...

[jrsygal37]

Tuga, Yorkies take a long time to potty train. There are always exceptions where a few will train fast, but to get a fully trained Yorkie takes a good year if not more. Keep doing what the others are saying. I use the word "Make" when she's on the pad and if she goes pee or poo anywhere I else I use the word "No" very sternly and the just put her on her pad and say "Make." Jersey is 3 months now and she gets it when I put her on the pad bu will not go on the pad on her own. It takes a long time. The treats shouldn't be a problem. Yes, soft stool in the beginning with any new food, but their bodies adapt. Jersey knows the word cookie and will run right to the jar after she goes on the pad. Keep your patience it will come. Elaine

[Sassysmama]

It took Sassy close to a year to be potty trained. She would never poo on the pee pad. Now she goes out the doggy door...thank god! It was really frustrating but it's all about being consistent w/ these dogs. She had to have a routine. Took her outside when we woke up, then again around lunch time, dinner time etc etc. She picked it up after a couple months...she's stubborn too :-)

[Tuga]

So what you're saying is that Yorkies are more difficult than other breeds to train, is that it?
Because I was comparing my case with other people that have different kind of dogs...

[Sassysmama]

Yes this breed can be very difficult to potty train. The breed really needs to be on a routine. And yorkies need lots of praise too when they do right. They love to make us happy I was very impressed w/ Sassy's puppy...VERY impressed. She picked up the potty training thing like it was nothing. Thats a major reason why we kept her, she's so special/smart. My friend has two yorkies and they took forever to potty train too. I know it's frustrating, but it will get better. Just stick it out and you'll be glad you did. You don't wanna be still potty training her as an adult..it'll be much more difficult. Good luck to you! There's a lot of good books out there too. Good luck!

[lanicha]

WOW, I know exactly how you feel. My Harlem, is 3 months and has been giving me hell. He started out peeing on the pads by himself but would not poop there at all. he would wait until I let him out and then poop directly on the carpet. Now, he is so out of control that he doesn't even pee on the pads anymore. he just eats and drinks, I put him on the pad and say go potty, he looks at me and walks away. No matter how many times I put him back. So since he won't go we eventually let him out in to the living room area. As soon as i take my eye off of him for one minute he pees on the floor. Very nerve racking and very smelly after awhile. This weekend, i went to Petsmart and brought some training pad spray. I forgot the name of it but it's on the aisle where the pads are. You spray it on the pad and let him sniff it. I used it yesterday and continued with my night. i was getting myself togther and Harlem, ended up missing. I called for him and looked for him, no where to be found. I looked on the pad and he was there! Pooping, woo hoo!!!! It works, it really works!!! This is going to make my life great.

[Sassysmama]

Originally Posted by lanicha

WOW, I know exactly how you feel. My Harlem, is 3 months and has been giving me hell. He started out peeing on the pads by himself but would not poop there at all. he would wait until I let him out and then poop directly on the carpet. Now, he is so out of control that he doesn't even pee on the pads anymore. he just eats and drinks, I put him on the pad and say go potty, he looks at me and walks away. No matter how many times I put him back. So since he won't go we eventually let him out in to the living room area. As soon as i take my eye off of him for one minute he pees on the floor. Very nerve racking and very smelly after awhile. This weekend, i went to Petsmart and brought some training pad spray. I forgot the name of it but it's on the aisle where the pads are. You spray it on the pad and let him sniff it. I used it yesterday and continued with my night. i was getting myself togther and Harlem, ended up missing. I called for him and looked for him, no where to be found. I looked on the pad and he was there! Pooping, woo hoo!!!! It works, it really works!!! This is going to make my life great.

Awesome! Glad you found a product that actually works! I wish I had that when Sassy was a puppy...she was a pain in the a**. LoL!

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by krissyb24

Say a common phrase like 'go pee' or 'hurry up'= the shorter and more distinct the better. I wouldn't say Pee here when it is right and wrong - it probably is confusing. I would just limit it to NO- go on the pads. When she goes off the pads- just say NO firmly, take her to the pads.

This is great advice!

[salsacute21]

I just read this amazing book called the "Evans Guide for Housetraing your dog" by Job Michael Evans.

Evans gives example of how the mother of the pups keeps her area clean when the pups are still nursing. That its unacceptable for them to go on her or near her. Evans explains how that role known as "alpha" can continue by first making eye contact with pup and when speaking to puppy to not have a high pitch voice like other pups rather a low growl (deeper voice) like the mother. He emphasizes putting your pup on a schedule and what to do when pup has an accident... from how to discipline to specifically walking your dog on a leash to the correct area (pee pad) after the pup has seen his accident vs. carrying your dog to the pee pad.

Sounds like it will be effective as he has a large amount of experience with dogs.

I am going to try his technique with my new puppy and let you know how it goes. The book is great... not very long too.

[lanicha]

Let me know how that goes. I'm interested in what he talks about for taking your dog to the pee pad after the acident.

[Tuga]

Thank you all for your replies.
Like you use to say "misery loves company" I don't feel so alone in mine knowing that I'm not the only one experiencing this difficulties.
One thing is no good for me unfortunately: the product suggestions... I live in PORTUGAL, a third world country (just kidding...) we don't have here most things you do.
I'll just have to do it without that kind of help...