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09-04-2015, 02:30 PM | #16 |
YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: prescott valley az usa
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| I don't know how to console you. . . I know you will have to grieve in your own way. Remember all the wonderful times you had together and love that baby girl that is coming to you. You will be glad for her company. So very sorry for your loss...... |
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09-04-2015, 04:29 PM | #17 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: i like to hide under things
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| thank you so much for your kind words.. it means so much to me... this week have been so hard on me and my boyfriend.. we are mentally and physically exhausted... we keep seeing empty playpen and his crate and its so hard to look at them without tearing.. kupo was the best friend i'll ever have... i suffer severe depression, especially after my grandmother passed away couple years ago... honestly.. i had those thoughts where i thought.. what if i did something stupid to myself... but when kupo came along, he saved me, and i never had those thoughts again... i was actually going to see my docs to see if kupo can be my emotional support animal, since he indeed was helping me with everything... it just really sucks so much that all this happend... i just got the gross autopsy report today.... it was found that he choked on something... we are not sure what it is... but the doctor at the autopsy said that it was pretty big and so deep down his larynx, that even if i did the heimrich maneuver right, it wouldn't have saved him... she called it a *freak* accident (which kinda made me feel worse about it), but she also said that it was really rare that puppies die like this... she said out of all puppies she've seen, case like this occurred only maybe about 1% and when kupo's regular vet contacted me, she said about same... that it was a rare "freak" incident and that i shouldn't blame myself and all that... kupo already was sent to the pet cremation center and we are to get him on tuesday... (i guess *freak* accident/incidents are really meant for such occasions.... still weird way to say things i think... meh) another update regarding the girl... she's supposed to come either tomorrow or on sunday.. .depending on if the pet nanny meets up with the pet transporter from europe in arranged time or not... but if everything goes well i should have her at 11am.. but i'm so scared... i tried my best to care for kupo.. gave him best food.. and did my best for him and something like this happens... the new girl, nami, will be a small girl.. and i know that small yorkies have more tendency to have health problems... when i was talking to the vet and kupo's trainer regarding this, they were trying to reassure me saying that everything will be fine since i care for animals alot and what happened to kupo couldn't have been helped... and we tried best to try to save him.. and that it was a rare case... i'm not sure what's going to happen... i know i'm not suppsed to show sadness infront of pets since they'll get worried and depressed as well, but i'm not sure if i can hide my feelings... i just hope that i can show her that i still do love her, even though i havent met her yet, and that i'll care for her as best as i can... but again... thank you so much for your kind words... it definitely helped me get through this a bit... and i'm sorry for depressing posts... |
09-04-2015, 05:43 PM | #18 |
YT 3000 Club Member | Im so sorry for your loss, he was a handsome boy, Im tearing up just reading about it, Im sending prayers for everyone and that you find out what happened. They leave huge paw orints on your heart. |
09-05-2015, 03:49 AM | #19 |
Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: E.Stroudsburg, Pa.
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| Once you set eyes on this little girl I know you will be over whelmed with both sadness and love. Sadness because she was meant for little Kupo, love because now you are her caretaker, her protector, you will love her more think you now think you will. I went through this with my new boy, and he wasn't a little baby that needed so much, but he needed to know he was loved and would be carded for and never tossed from from my life. Even if you are sad when you hold this new little girl in your arms for the first time and may even cry in her fur, she will feel your emotions, she is just a baby and will not know what these emotions are. Trust me, you will spoil her rotten, she'll be the biggest Diva ever. You cannot blame yourself for Kupo's leaving you, as much as we watch them they are fast, we can miss things. Freak accidents happen, we cannot understand why, we cannot beat ourselves trying to figure it out. You have a new personality coming to you soon, you will have much to learn about this little girl, you WILL love little Nami in a very, very special way. Please keep us updated on your soon to be little Nami. (((HUGS)))
__________________ Joan, mom to Cody RIP Matese Schnae Kajon Kia forever in my A House Is Not A Home Without A Dog |
09-05-2015, 04:32 AM | #20 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Long Island, New York
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| I am heartbroken reading about your tragic loss. It is devastating when we lose someone loved so dearly. I learned very long ago that love lasts forever. I still hold those I love very close to my heart, and love is such a powerful emotion that remains just as strong, even with those people or pups who have passed away years before. I still love my mom who passed away almost forty years ago just as strongly as I did when she was alive, other loved ones who touched my heart so deeply, and all of my Yorkie babies through the years. Trust me when I say that Kupo will forever be a part of you and that the love you both shared together will forever warm your heart. Your precious memories will help you to heal, and so will your new little girl. You are capable of loving so purely and deeply, and when you hold Nami in your arms, you will feel stronger, and you will open your heart once again. I thought I'd never love another baby like I loved my first Yorkie, but I was very wrong. Each of my babies have stolen my heart completely, and I think because of our love for our passed babies is so powerful, we love even more fiercely the next time. I am deeply sorry for your loss. heart.
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09-06-2015, 07:53 AM | #21 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: i like to hide under things
Posts: 226
| hi guys... thank you for your kind words again.... i'm still heartbroken and i'm not sure if i'll ever get over him... but... yeseterday.. i've picked up nami... here is a short clip of her soon after i picked her up... as soon as i saw her, i felt so happy... it has been a hard week and she indeed brought smile to my face... she was so small (i knew she was going to be on small side... but not this small..) ... and so girly looking.. maybe especially with her topknot... and long hair that kupo didnt have... we went back home asap and offered some water and food and she ate them all and drank most of the water right away... she must have been really hungry... we went to the vet couple after to get her checked out... the breeder i got from said she was healthy, and had no flaws, perfect bite, perfectly leveled back, but just that she was small.. but with our vet, she was found to be healthy.. weighing 2.45 lbs at 5 months... thankfully... with a good bite... and leveled back... but she was found to have luxating patella... possibly grade 2 or 3 on her left leg... when i heard this... i broke down again... i was worried about her and i felt so lied to... and i was so scared since kupo was healthy and he passed way with that incident.... i was paranoid when i found out that his back was slightly roached but this made me freak out way more than that.... when i mentioned this to the breeder, she then told me this... "Good to know she looks healthy. One of her patellas was not as firm as the other but in movement did not show any problem. Not lifting her leg or limping, nothinh. She was going up and down the few stairs as the others. If it is very bad usually you can see it from earlier puppy age. Most patella promlem dogs walk with roach back. Nami's back is super level Means no pain in the rear..." and that before she actually shipped nami and got the vet to check her, the vet said that... "one of her knees was loose but her ligaments can get stronget as growing. By experience this kind of knee does not give much problem to a small size dog. Im not saying this is the ideal. But even with club rules in most countries it is still breedable but choosing a mate with good stable knees. Breeding is about progression. You always breed for better but the perfect dog does not exist." this so pissed me off.... she basically hid this from me.. and she knew what i was going through too... but more than anything i'm now worried about her knee... we are going to go in and get her checked again by the regular vet and the specialty vet possibly next month to make sure... but other breeders i've been talking to were telling me that sometimes if its low grade lp, they may improve... but is this really the case? i really feel like everything is going so wrong this week... with her knee being like this at such a young age... what should i be looking for? she is not limping, and she is not showing any visible signs of those with luxating patella and even the vet said so.. it was just based on what she felt.. also... she has not been eating much after her first meal when she came... and is not moving much... she just wants to sleep.. i know that is expected, as for wanting to sleep... but what do i need to do about her meals? i've bonded with her already and i do NOT want to give her away even if she has a guarantee, since she is my responsibility and i do not like the ideas of just throwing/giving away the pet just because they have a problem.. even if she only has been with me for a day... oh... also... eventhough she ate all her food when she first got here, she only ate maybe not even half of her food later on yesterday.. and maybe only 6 kibbles this morning... *sigh* i've also been giving her nutricals... i'm not sure if she's shaking cuz she's scared of us.. or cuz of her low blood sugar... she seems to be doing better a bit now though... she's laying on her back asking us to pet her... which is an improvement... with such a small puppy though... what am i to expect..? kupo was way sturdy looking than her, and we are not sure if we can even play with her as we did with kupo... i'm still not over him and i'm so scared something may happen to her especially cuz of her size...and her knee... the vet was trying to tell me that not all small puppies have health issues... but kupo was perfectly healthy and that happened so it didnt really help... i'm sorry for such along post again and that if my thoughts were jumping around everywhere... i'm still distressed and i really can't think straight.... and thank you guys in advance... Last edited by Deviruchi; 09-06-2015 at 07:56 AM. |
09-06-2015, 08:01 AM | #22 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: i like to hide under things
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| oh.... tried to edit again but apparently i passed the 5 min mark.... wanted to say that i was thankful that she was healthy... not cuz of her weight... i was told that she'd be a bit bigger... from what the breeder claimed, she was 2.8lbs at her vet... i dont mind the fact that she's so small.. since i knew she was going to be this small.. but because she lied about other stuff.. it just... it just made me mad even more... i just don't get it... she was known to be well-respected show breeder and she does something like this.. *sigh* Last edited by Deviruchi; 09-06-2015 at 08:02 AM. |
09-06-2015, 11:18 AM | #23 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Long Island, New York
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| I wish you infinite love, laughter, joy, and health with her. I'm so sorry this breeder lied to you. If she sold her as a breeder, I would be especially unhappy. She is too tiny to be bred. It is unlikely she will reach five pounds, the smallest weight to breed, and I also wouldn't want to breed dogs with LP. I know they say it's acceptable for very low grade, but but you don't want to pass along LP. If she needs surgery, it can be fixed, and Nami will lead a perfectly normal life. I probably would seek the advice of a board certified orthopedic surgeon. The surgery is expensive, and hopefully your breeder will help. I wouldn't count on it, however with her dishonesty, particularly since she came from abroad which makes litigation too do. If you can get her to play, I would try that. My little girl came from Canada when she was three years old, and I thought she was very tired from her two day trip to me, first a six hour trip to my dear friend's house with her four dogs, and then another four hours when my friend brought Katie to me. After my friend left with two of her dogs a day later, Katie almost seemed depressed, but I thought that wouldn't be unusual since she left her loving home. I took her outside to play ball, and she came alive. Katie is such a happy little girl, and Nami will be too.
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09-06-2015, 11:23 AM | #24 |
Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: E.Stroudsburg, Pa.
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| Congratulations, she's a tiny little darling. I am soooo sorry your little Nami has luxating patella, with all you have gone through, going through you didn't need this. Just follow through with the specialty vet, see what they say. The shaking as you already know could be from her trip and new home, hopefully others with tiny's will offer up some suggestions, advice, my 4 passed pups were large, 9 Lbs, 13, 17lbs and my adopted boy 12 Lbs. Speaking from my own experience once I held that puppy in my arms it was always an instant bond, I didn't care what was wrong (if anything, thank God there was not) I could never take a puppy back, I don't care the cost, I would make sure that baby was taken care of medically. Once she was in my arms next to my heart she was mine. I feel so bad that you now have this worry with your new baby. Stay strong. (((HUGS)))
__________________ Joan, mom to Cody RIP Matese Schnae Kajon Kia forever in my A House Is Not A Home Without A Dog Last edited by matese; 09-06-2015 at 11:25 AM. |
09-06-2015, 12:41 PM | #25 |
YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: prescott valley az usa
Posts: 1,232
| She is a beautiful little girl. Congratulations! Stress from the trip, new surroundings, food and people, I would just want to sleep. Eating small amounts throughout the day is maybe all she can handle. I'm not experienced in this area but contact the vet if she is not picking up soon. Can you make a complaint to "the breeders club".....whoever she is registered with? If that is even possible. Hope the best for the LP problem. |
09-09-2015, 04:30 AM | #26 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Posts: 34
| It is horrible what you are going through! My thoughts and prayers are with you. There are no words. |
09-09-2015, 09:50 AM | #27 |
YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Michigan
Posts: 344
| I am so sorry about your dear little Kupo. Your new puppy will bring you much joy. I hope that the LP issue turns out okay. Dinky had one, and it was fine for years. It was only when he injured himself that he needed surgery. He could have gone his whole life without needing it, but that did not happen. Life is uncertain, but spending your time and emotional energy on your dogs is never a mistake. the time you had with Kupo was precious and always will be. |
09-09-2015, 01:49 PM | #28 |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
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| You are not going to be using this little lady for breeding, right? You need to start our building a breeding program with the absolute best dog you can get your hands on....bad knees is not something you want to start out with in your foundation. After you have been breeding for many years, and you are successful in utilizing the ability to select your breeding dogs that can cancel out not desirable traits....I have a female that has dogs behind her that depending on who I breed her to, she throws puppies that I KNOW will mature to 5-10lbs, or if I change my male up on her, she throws pups that mature out at 4-6 lbs.... You have to know what is BEHIND your dogs, to better determine what you are likely to end up with in pups. When you get really good at breeding, you can breed out the propensity for certain MINOR defects, like weak knees, minor bad hips, unlevel toplines, etc...but this takes alot of knowledge about your lines and what they throw....especially what they throw when you combine certain lines.....some you just DO NOT MIX or you can end up with some really drastic events. This is why breeding is not a "casual, might be fun, generating revenue type adventure"....even under the very best circumstances, God is still in charge of all that, and if you get tooooooo cocky or self assured, He can knock your legs right out from under you with just one litter! |
09-09-2015, 02:05 PM | #29 |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 9,462
| I did want to respond to you about the lp....yes, it can tighten up for you....do NOT allow jumping up and down from furniture.....off steps, off the patio deck if it has any height....frequently the ligaments will actually tighten up....if you are going to be using her for breeding, besides making sure she has some size on her, like at least 5-7 lbs for a breeder....make sure those knees have tightened up........ I personally would not be breeding a young lady with loose knees.....you start out with a shaky foundation, you will do no better than that (until YEARS and much experience later, when you learn your lines and the faults and you learn what you can combine and what you cant mix together, etc) |
09-10-2015, 04:36 PM | #30 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Fresno CA USA
Posts: 35
| So sorry. What a sad and shocking experience for you. He had a darling little face. |
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