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01-07-2006, 07:32 AM | #1 |
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| Color Of Eyes Can someone please tell me what it means in a picture when a puppy's eyes show up green, yellow or whatever? I hear some people say "if their eyes show up yellow in a picture, .........?" Others say "if their eyes show up green in a picture, ......?" Thanks loads for your time. Happy New Year!
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01-07-2006, 08:44 AM | #2 |
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| There have been many discussions about this with varying opinions. I can tell you from personal experience that any warm color-orange, gold, red, reddish-orange and so on- means I am gonna have a dog with a soft coat. My dogs with and shade of cool colors-green, aqua, chartreuse- have nice silky coats.. It took some money and a lot of convincing to make me beleive it but I have found that to be true..I just don't know why that is, though.. |
01-07-2006, 12:40 PM | #3 |
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| I am sure the eye colors matching different types of coats is correct. There are just too many people that have found this to be true. One poster said that there is, indeed, a scientific explanation for this - but he didn't want to go into it in his post. I think my pup is going to have a silky coat. He has straight hair that doesn't seem to matt - can comb right through it (so far - knock on wood!) BUT - his eyes have never shown any color in a picture other than brown. I'm wondering - I have the "red eye" feature turned on on my camera. It keeps eyes from showing up red in the pictures I take. I wonder if this doesn't also keep other colors from showing up..... greens, oranges, reds, etc. Just a thought. Carol Jean |
01-07-2006, 01:12 PM | #4 |
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| I have found an amber or red eye is apparent in black coated yorkies even though they have a silk coat. Also keep in mind you can't always get an eye flash in a younger pup.
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01-07-2006, 03:05 PM | #5 | |
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| Tapetum Lucidum Quote:
You can do a google on "tapetum" and find lots of information here are a few: http://dogs.about.com/cs/generalcare/a/tapetum.htm http://www.answers.com/topic/tapetum-lucidum There are some people who think the blue/green tatetum is somehow connected to the silk (bb) gene in the Yorkie. As for myself I believe completely that the blue/green (cool color) eye shine is defiantly linked to a silk coat. If I see a puppy with green eye shine I KNOW he/she will have a silk coat. ---------------------------------------------------- Yorkie Eye Shine First Yorkies are almost "unique" in the dog world. They carry a silk gene, and if they are bred correctly carry 2 blue (bb) or 2 black genes (BB) or 2 progressive graying genes. In addition, they also have a "dilute gene".....this is what determines how light or dark the blue pigment color of the saddle is. When all these genes are present in the correct combination in one dog you have one beautiful animal. There's a lot more to this part of the blue coat.....but you need to read Dr. Little's "Inheritance of Coat Color in Dogs". He did much study on many breeds and although written long ago is still considered the bible of coat color in dogs. The eye in all animals except pigs and man have a reflective layer along the back of the retina called the tapetum. This layer serves to reflect light to allow maximal usage of the available light. In some animals the tapetum is colored in others it is not. The reddish color that you see in human eyes is the reflection of the blood vessels in the back of the eye because the tapetum is NOT colored. This is the same in the "red eye shine" in the Yorkie. The blue and green you see in the Yorkie's eye shine are from a pigmentation in the tapetum -- how this relates to coats I am not sure.....but could be that pigmentation of the eye and coat texture are related genetically. Tapetums are very beautiful -- metallic, brilliant colors in most animals. You can watch Yorkies, clipped down or in full coat, outside in the sunshine ... and you can easily separate them into two groups - those with a "blue cast" to the coat, and those with a "gold cast" to the coat. Those with gold or bronze cast to the coat have eyes that reflect a flash bulb or flashlight with the "red eye" or "shiny" red reflection to the pupil.......no pigment. Those blue cast dogs always seem to reflect blue or green from the pupil.....pigment in the tatetum. The "red eye" dog has a thicker, softer, more opaque (not shiny silky) coat ... silky coated pups look kind of straggly. What is going on is that those dogs with the gold/bronze cast has LESS eumelanin (black) and more phaomelanin (yellow). Typically phaomelanin (yellow) does NOT get put in the tapetum. So NO tapetal pigment results in red color from the blood vessels. Whereas the blue cast dogs have more eumelanin resulting in a pigmented tapetum and the reflection that you see is bluish or green. It's very similar in chocolate and black Labs-- chocolate labs tend to have pale gold or red tapetums while the black labs have brilliant green and blue tapetums. Again it has to do with overall production of melanin (pigment) and where it is put. It also has to do with whether the dog carries the genes for true blue, clerical blue or black AND whether they also carry the gene for progressive graying (dilute). That is my explanation I have learned from study of the breed and genes and pigment. Is it any wonder that Yorkies are difficult to breed to the standard...<g> | |
01-07-2006, 07:30 PM | #6 |
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| That is such a great explanation. Thanks!
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01-07-2006, 07:37 PM | #7 | |
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01-07-2006, 09:07 PM | #8 |
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| wow!!! this is so interesting!!!almost every pic of hayley her eyes are blue/green. i wondered why she is almost 5 months old and appears to gonna have a silky coat.. look at this pic and look how beautiful her eyes look
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01-15-2006, 10:08 PM | #9 |
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| MisaRaye's eyes reflect green in pictures and also if light hits them in a certain way. Her coat is very silky and shiny, so perhaps there really is correlation with the green shine and coat. |
01-16-2006, 05:48 AM | #10 |
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| Very interesting information here! Trixie and Cody both have greenish/yellow eyes, but Abby's are fire red! (I think she's part demon...lol.) Thing about her's, you can see it without a camera. We have had several people tell her it is because she has chocolate genes (although they didn't show up w/ her...2 of her littermates were chocolate). So yeah, I guess it does relate to the coat... |
01-16-2006, 08:10 AM | #11 |
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| Wow!.... i was wondering why in all zaynes pictures, his eyes were such a pretty blue. I sent christmas cards with him on them.. and everyone kept asking if it was his blue sweater making his eyes look blue. Now i can tell them why.
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01-16-2006, 09:12 AM | #12 |
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| I have to agree with this theory. Brandy's eyes shine green and she is definitely a silky coat. Not cottony and has NEVER had a matt.
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01-16-2006, 02:42 PM | #13 |
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| Eros's eyes always seem to show up green in pictures and he has a very cottony coat that is pretty wavy and matts. |
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