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08-13-2013, 07:35 PM | #1 |
YT 1000 Club Member | over vaccinating is bad for our pets Dog Vaccination Side Effects - Are We Vaccinating Dogs Too Much? | Know Better Pet Food Please read this link and stand up for your pets. They are the ones suffering from Over Vaccinating. If your a breeder please talk to your new puppy parents about this.
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08-13-2013, 07:43 PM | #2 |
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| Great post- I agree. Everyone should learn about the possible side effects of vaccines! Everyone make sure you space apart your vaccines and talk to your vet about preventing allergic reactions.
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08-13-2013, 07:56 PM | #3 |
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| I prefer to titer my little girl to see when she needs her booster shot. My little girl, Ashley, had a heart condition that we discovered when she was close to eleven. We stopped giving her all vaccines. We walked daily at least a couple of miles and went many different places. I'm sure she probably still had her immunity from when she was younger, but she did fine without the shots. She lived one month shy of seventeen. Thank you for sharing this, Lori. I have read some things from Dr. Schultz and Dr. Dodds, but this is excellent, too.
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08-13-2013, 08:01 PM | #4 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | I hope the pendulum doesn't swing the other way, and people think they don't need to get puppy vaccinations, or the first yearly booster. Also, even if you decide you don't want to get yearly shots, it's still a good idea to get a well pet check up and do blood work for heartworm. We also get titers, because I like knowing that they have immunity for parvo and distemper.
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08-13-2013, 08:06 PM | #5 | |
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08-13-2013, 08:07 PM | #6 |
YT 1000 Club Member | I agree. Currently I follow Dr Dodds Vaccination protocol, But I always let any new owners know about the importance to continue the puppy boosters and follow up with the adult vaccination then figure out the vaccine schedule they feel comfortable with. I also stress about well checks and heartworm check in my contracts. I also stress that titers are important and although they may cost a little more it is worth the cost if you are preventing other medical issues that pop up from over vaccinating.
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08-13-2013, 08:11 PM | #7 | |
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I was very happy to read Crystal's post that newer vaccination protocols call for a 5-year interval for many of the core vaccines. Max already had 2 checkups and a rabies vacc, so I am holding off on his DHPP. I thought titering is still a bit controversial relative to accuracy.
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08-14-2013, 04:45 AM | #8 | |
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08-14-2013, 06:25 AM | #9 | |
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Yup on the titering. It's most 'accurate' usage is for dogs who arrive into shelter/rescue and they're trying to confirm whether or not previous vax has ever been given to avoid over-vaxing (just using as example). As far as immunity - it can't confirm it, sadly. A dog can have a positive titer and still get the disease; they can have a negative titer yet still be immune. They can have humoral immunity but no cellular immunity and vice versa. That said, titers can provide some assurance that some form of immunity *might* be present.
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08-14-2013, 09:00 AM | #10 | ||
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08-14-2013, 09:11 AM | #11 |
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| When I first joined YT there was a very long thread on why are we still vaccinating our dogs. I had read a bit about the titer testing variables and issues with various tests, labs, handling/processing, readings and questioned whether or not the process was indeed a viable enough one throughout to be relied upon in any strict sense but most responses to me then seemed to think titer testing was the way to go. It does seem there might be enough worry about them as to keep vaccinating unless there are real contraindications or other significant reasons against.
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08-14-2013, 09:34 AM | #12 | |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | I found another article where Dr. Dodds says she doesn't recommend titering for other diseases besides parvo and distemper and says that titering for other things is a waste of money, could that be part of the confusion? Quote:
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08-14-2013, 09:50 AM | #13 |
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| "Confusion" is a particularly descriptive term of how I felt after reading the things I did back in 2011 about the whole process and which tests were effective, how they were handled, processed and interpreted by the lab/vet and then what that actually told them about that dog's immune response to that disease on that day vs. next month or upon a sudden insult of infection, etc. There seemed to be much surmising and assuming, uses of words like "may", "likely" and "probable", etc., in final statements at the ends of articles that I was left feeling I knew very little more than when I began.
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08-14-2013, 09:58 AM | #14 | |
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08-14-2013, 10:03 AM | #15 |
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| I'm in agreement with you, Nancy, about Dr. Dodds. She has spent so much of her medical career studying the affects of vaccination, and so has Dr. Schultz. I don't think anything is foolproof, but the risks of overvaccinating to me are a great concern, and it seems that titering is an excellent alternative. My vet was very happy when I asked about titering. He prefers to test every year rather than every three years, which is fine with me. My Ashley went six years not being vaccinated, and although we didn't go to dog parks or pet stores, she walked a great deal and went many places with me. Most likely dogs are fully immunized after they get their one year boosters, but I know I would worry too much if I didn't titer.
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