SHOCKED...Maxx May Not Have Died!! Scammed!?! - YorkieTalk.com Forums

velobabe · 06-28-2005, 10:42 AM

I went on PuppyFind last night and clicked on My Favorites to see if the breeder in which I was getting my angel Maxx from sold the other pups they had and to my utter horror, shock, and pain I saw on a listing for a female pup one of the photos of my angel baby Maxx!!! The EXACT same photo!! And then on another listing they have for a female I found similar photos (same background, puppy features...ect.) of the very same ones they sent to me of Maxx. I also saw some of the same photos listed on their "new" pups as they had on the listings for their previous pups. How horrible is THAT!!

I feel like my heart got ripped out again!! I asked 101 questions when they sent me "updated" photos of Maxx at the time and he looked totally different. They tried to reassure me that it was the same pup and my hubby even pointed out that I may just be paranoid, but after you sit for hours, staring at photos of your baby and dreaming of holding him, you realize the differences when they are present. Supposedly the man is a judge and I made mention of the fact that I am pursuing my law degree...may have deterred them away from scamming me but I'll never know the truth.

Two days after all my questions I got the news Maxx died. Despite my outrage and hurt I like to take some reassurance in thinking that Maxx didn't really die but went to someone else who asked less questions about the pup they were supposed to be getting. I wonder what pup we would've discovered at the airport in Philly had they sent us one. I even take some comfort in thinking that the puppy I fell in love with in the photos wasn't even "Maxx" at all but just photos of a pup that they use repeatedly to scam people into buying their dogs. I am sooo mad right now but am trying to see the bright side of things; My angel baby Maxx may not be dead and I now have my handsome little Piper Cub. Never again will I trust someone I don't know like that on the Internet. How cruel!!! I feel so violated and hurt. I just hope my Maxx is really OK...wherever he may be.

vainchick5 · 06-28-2005, 10:47 AM

That is horrible! I would pursue it if I was you. You wouldn't want someone else to go through what you went through with those horrible people. You should e-mail them as someone else and see if they will respond with Maxx's pictures. But I am glad you have your baby with you!

SoCalyorkiLvr · 06-28-2005, 10:49 AM

I am so sorry to hear that you were scammed in this way. As much as we would all like to believe in the good in everyone sometimes peope's greed takes over! At least you can take some "comfort" in the fact that your baby Maxx probably didn't die and maybe wasn't even the puppy they had earmarked for you. I sounded fishy at the time and you were so right to discontinue your dealings with them.

I would be bold and angry enough to call them and ask what gives since seeing those pics just for the fun of it! If you do, please share with us what they say.

MeganS · 06-28-2005, 11:02 AM

that is teriable!!! you went through all of that pain and grief and for what!? maybe nothing!!!!! i am sooooo mad right now!!!! i would defenatly do something if i were you!

velobabe · 06-28-2005, 11:16 AM

I'm not sure what to do. I definetely don't want somebody else going through what I went through but even if I called them on it I'm not sure it would make a difference. They'll still sell their puppies and rope people in anyway they can. People like that are heartless and have no consideration for themselves, others, or the poor puppies they are selling. I found out afterwards that they had like 200 adults...puppy mill probably. And if Maxx did get sick (whoever Maxx was) that's why, because with that many dogs, not counting the poor puppies, I'm sure they're not getting the proper care. I don't even want to speak to those people right now or possibly ever again. The hurt and pain they caused me then and now still makes my stomach hurt.

rachelfraim · 06-28-2005, 11:21 AM

I agree with SoCalyorkiLvr, I would call & tell them about seeing "Maxx's picture" AFTER they informed you of his death. Would be interesting to see what they had to say! Maybe they would think twice before doing this again to someone else - who knows!!!

lyricandme · 06-28-2005, 11:23 AM

Wow! I am really sorry that this happened to you! Some people are just cruel!

rachelfraim · 06-28-2005, 11:25 AM

Guess we were posting at the same time. The only reason I would call them is to let them know you are aware of their scam & will spread the word about their dealings!!! People need to be "called out" when found out! IMO - but I can certainly understand your not wanting to have anything else to do with them.

LvMyYorki · 06-28-2005, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rachelfraim

Guess we were posting at the same time. The only reason I would call them is to let them know you are aware of their scam & will spread the word about their dealings!!! People need to be "called out" when found out! IMO - but I can certainly understand your not wanting to have anything else to do with them.

I agree... 200 adults??? Not probably a Puppy Mill... DEFINITELY a Puppy Mill!

If it were me, I would let them know that I am a member of a forum dedicated to Yorkies with over 3000 members and that I have a VERY BIG MOUTH!!!!!!!!

vainchick5 · 06-28-2005, 11:34 AM

I would do the same and tell them that you will have them investigated if they don't stop what they are doing!

red98vett · 06-28-2005, 11:37 AM

I'm really sorry about this - I remember you posting about him....

There are LOTS of internet sites that do this - some are actually caught but not before countless people are scammed out of their money and their puppy - Tiny Darlings is a HUGE example of this scam. She broke hearts all over the country before they actually did something about it - I doubt she really ever got punished though - it's very hard to get these nasty people to make good on their contracts.

Those people dont care - they just want to make a fast buck and that's why researching internet breeders/websites is so very important - you almost can't do enough research before going to these places.

You have a new baby and I'm so glad for you - if you still have the original pictures ...and know the location of the new listings - you CAN report this...I would. If anything - the more people who report these internet scammers - the better chance there is of someone finally going after them.

LvMyYorki · 06-28-2005, 11:38 AM

What is their site???? I would like to know for my own purposes! We are always talking about what we can DO to shut down puppy mills... we can all certainly drop them a line to let them know what they did and that if we are ever asked for a referral, we will keep how they do business in mind! We don't have to use the term "puppy mill", but we can sure let them know that we are aware that they are scam artists!

mzkim · 06-28-2005, 11:49 AM

I am so sorry you are going thru this. I can't tell you what to do but my little horns would go up and I would get even! I would put yeast on it and make it grow! I would tell them I belong to a number of yorkie forums and the lowest membership in all of them is 2500 and I have a big mouth and if they don't stop what they are doing I would got tell it on the mountain! Word of mouth can hurt them a lone! This just pisses me off!

Biddy's Mom · 06-28-2005, 12:13 PM

What?! I can't believe this! We were all so heartbroken for your loss. I can't believe that there are people out there that can be so minipulative!! Urgh! If you look at the bright side though, your "Maxx" (if there even was such a dog) may still be living, and without all of this you wouldn't have found Piper...

Pixiestar · 06-28-2005, 12:14 PM

Thats all the reason i did not think ever about buying a puppy on a computer. You not ordering a purse or a pair of shoes. Your purchasing a animal that has a heartbeat and a mind of its own. My girlfriend told me about puppyfind, and told me to buy pixie from there. I was like no way !!!!!!! thats crazy!!! why you ask? maybe because all your seeing is a picture. Your not getting to see its personality on the loose. When I saw my baby at the pet shop i just knew i had to have her. It was the most wonderful feeling to know you made the right decision. I had her walk around the store to make sure she walked ok . I played with her to make sure she was healthy. these are all things you cant see on a picture. take it as a blessing ! had you bought it that way you could have been very disappointed and that really sucks

06-28-2005, 10:42 AM	#1
velobabe Mommy's Lil' Piper Cub Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,333	SHOCKED...Maxx May Not Have Died!! Scammed!?! I went on PuppyFind last night and clicked on My Favorites to see if the breeder in which I was getting my angel Maxx from sold the other pups they had and to my utter horror, shock, and pain I saw on a listing for a female pup one of the photos of my angel baby Maxx!!! The EXACT same photo!! And then on another listing they have for a female I found similar photos (same background, puppy features...ect.) of the very same ones they sent to me of Maxx. I also saw some of the same photos listed on their "new" pups as they had on the listings for their previous pups. How horrible is THAT!! I feel like my heart got ripped out again!! I asked 101 questions when they sent me "updated" photos of Maxx at the time and he looked totally different. They tried to reassure me that it was the same pup and my hubby even pointed out that I may just be paranoid, but after you sit for hours, staring at photos of your baby and dreaming of holding him, you realize the differences when they are present. Supposedly the man is a judge and I made mention of the fact that I am pursuing my law degree...may have deterred them away from scamming me but I'll never know the truth. Two days after all my questions I got the news Maxx died. Despite my outrage and hurt I like to take some reassurance in thinking that Maxx didn't really die but went to someone else who asked less questions about the pup they were supposed to be getting. I wonder what pup we would've discovered at the airport in Philly had they sent us one. I even take some comfort in thinking that the puppy I fell in love with in the photos wasn't even "Maxx" at all but just photos of a pup that they use repeatedly to scam people into buying their dogs. I am sooo mad right now but am trying to see the bright side of things; My angel baby Maxx may not be dead and I now have my handsome little Piper Cub. Never again will I trust someone I don't know like that on the Internet. How cruel!!! I feel so violated and hurt. I just hope my Maxx is really OK...wherever he may be. __________________ Tammy & Piper ~Yorkies Are Not Our Whole Life, But They Make Our Lives Whole~

06-28-2005, 10:47 AM	#2
vainchick5 YT 6000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CA Posts: 6,588	That is horrible! I would pursue it if I was you. You wouldn't want someone else to go through what you went through with those horrible people. You should e-mail them as someone else and see if they will respond with Maxx's pictures. But I am glad you have your baby with you! __________________ Mommy to Coco and Rocco

06-28-2005, 11:02 AM	#4
MeganS Donating YT 7000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 12,016 Blog Entries: 1	that is teriable!!! you went through all of that pain and grief and for what!? maybe nothing!!!!! i am sooooo mad right now!!!! i would defenatly do something if i were you! __________________ Megan "I have my dreams, I have made plans." - The Pirate Queen All Gave Some; Some Gave All

06-28-2005, 11:16 AM	#5
velobabe Mommy's Lil' Piper Cub Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,333	Not Sure I'm not sure what to do. I definetely don't want somebody else going through what I went through but even if I called them on it I'm not sure it would make a difference. They'll still sell their puppies and rope people in anyway they can. People like that are heartless and have no consideration for themselves, others, or the poor puppies they are selling. I found out afterwards that they had like 200 adults...puppy mill probably. And if Maxx did get sick (whoever Maxx was) that's why, because with that many dogs, not counting the poor puppies, I'm sure they're not getting the proper care. I don't even want to speak to those people right now or possibly ever again. The hurt and pain they caused me then and now still makes my stomach hurt. __________________ Tammy & Piper ~Yorkies Are Not Our Whole Life, But They Make Our Lives Whole~

06-28-2005, 11:21 AM	#6
rachelfraim Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Edmond, Oklahoma Posts: 472	I agree with SoCalyorkiLvr, I would call & tell them about seeing "Maxx's picture" AFTER they informed you of his death. Would be interesting to see what they had to say! Maybe they would think twice before doing this again to someone else - who knows!!! __________________ Kodah, Stormy & Rachel Kodah pics!

06-28-2005, 10:49 AM	#3
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	I am so sorry to hear that you were scammed in this way. As much as we would all like to believe in the good in everyone sometimes peope's greed takes over! At least you can take some "comfort" in the fact that your baby Maxx probably didn't die and maybe wasn't even the puppy they had earmarked for you. I sounded fishy at the time and you were so right to discontinue your dealings with them. I would be bold and angry enough to call them and ask what gives since seeing those pics just for the fun of it! If you do, please share with us what they say.

06-28-2005, 11:23 AM	#7
lyricandme YT Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 288	Wow! I am really sorry that this happened to you! Some people are just cruel! __________________ SHELLEY AND ROCKY BALBOA http://www.dogster.com/pet_page.php?i=149351

06-28-2005, 11:25 AM	#8
rachelfraim Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Edmond, Oklahoma Posts: 472	Guess we were posting at the same time. The only reason I would call them is to let them know you are aware of their scam & will spread the word about their dealings!!! People need to be "called out" when found out! IMO - but I can certainly understand your not wanting to have anything else to do with them. __________________ Kodah, Stormy & Rachel Kodah pics!

06-28-2005, 11:34 AM	#10
vainchick5 YT 6000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CA Posts: 6,588	I would do the same and tell them that you will have them investigated if they don't stop what they are doing! __________________ Mommy to Coco and Rocco

06-28-2005, 11:37 AM	#11
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	I'm really sorry about this - I remember you posting about him.... There are LOTS of internet sites that do this - some are actually caught but not before countless people are scammed out of their money and their puppy - Tiny Darlings is a HUGE example of this scam. She broke hearts all over the country before they actually did something about it - I doubt she really ever got punished though - it's very hard to get these nasty people to make good on their contracts. Those people dont care - they just want to make a fast buck and that's why researching internet breeders/websites is so very important - you almost can't do enough research before going to these places. You have a new baby and I'm so glad for you - if you still have the original pictures ...and know the location of the new listings - you CAN report this...I would. If anything - the more people who report these internet scammers - the better chance there is of someone finally going after them. __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

06-28-2005, 11:38 AM	#12
LvMyYorki Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 1,181	What is their site???? I would like to know for my own purposes! We are always talking about what we can DO to shut down puppy mills... we can all certainly drop them a line to let them know what they did and that if we are ever asked for a referral, we will keep how they do business in mind! We don't have to use the term "puppy mill", but we can sure let them know that we are aware that they are scam artists! __________________ Tara, Tino & Diva Bunny Diva Bunny: http://www.dogster.com/?141104 Rudolph Valentino: http://www.dogster.com/?76963

06-28-2005, 11:49 AM	#13
mzkim YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maplewood, Minnesota Posts: 277	I am so sorry you are going thru this. I can't tell you what to do but my little horns would go up and I would get even! I would put yeast on it and make it grow! I would tell them I belong to a number of yorkie forums and the lowest membership in all of them is 2500 and I have a big mouth and if they don't stop what they are doing I would got tell it on the mountain! Word of mouth can hurt them a lone! This just pisses me off! __________________ :Puppy: Mz Kim "Failure seldom stops you. What stops you is the fear of failure."

06-28-2005, 12:13 PM	#14
Biddy's Mom and Tucker's too! Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 2,134	What?! I can't believe this! We were all so heartbroken for your loss. I can't believe that there are people out there that can be so minipulative!! Urgh! If you look at the bright side though, your "Maxx" (if there even was such a dog) may still be living, and without all of this you wouldn't have found Piper... __________________ Jessica, Biddy, Tucker & Gertie

06-28-2005, 12:14 PM	#15
Pixiestar Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Location: brooklyn Posts: 97	Well Thats all the reason i did not think ever about buying a puppy on a computer. You not ordering a purse or a pair of shoes. Your purchasing a animal that has a heartbeat and a mind of its own. My girlfriend told me about puppyfind, and told me to buy pixie from there. I was like no way !!!!!!! thats crazy!!! why you ask? maybe because all your seeing is a picture. Your not getting to see its personality on the loose. When I saw my baby at the pet shop i just knew i had to have her. It was the most wonderful feeling to know you made the right decision. I had her walk around the store to make sure she walked ok . I played with her to make sure she was healthy. these are all things you cant see on a picture. take it as a blessing ! had you bought it that way you could have been very disappointed and that really sucks Last edited by Pixiestar; 06-28-2005 at 12:17 PM.