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WinstonMom · 02-07-2010, 05:51 PM

Those photos almost look like they were photoshopped or something. I know it is a psychological thing that human are attracted to animals and babies with big eyes by wow, some of those puppies look almost like kittens.

Audrey

JeanieK · 02-07-2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WinstonMom

I went to this website too and is it just my or is there something strange with some of the puppies eyes, they looked so big and round?

Audrey

OH My. those eyes are huge. They look very weird.

jeanm1963 · 02-07-2010, 05:54 PM

I have seen thier add on Kijji, many times.. I just figured they were puppy mill dogs.... I cant believe she has breeding rights !! While I think breeders are amazing , it is just amazing what goes into it, the research, the money , the time, the energy , finding home, loosing puppies... I cant even imagine. I cant say that I am an experienced breeder , however due to sickness I have spent hours upon hours on this site reading and at the very least learned that breeding requires a mentor, MONEY ( LOTS OF IT) , time, experience , medical testing and yes the preperation that your dog may die. What I learned most that it is NOT a money making business, sometimes I read about the , c-sections, puppy food, whelping boxes, testing , meds for mom and puppies and realize this is deffinatly not for everyone and should be taken very seriously , expecially since you can loose your baby... I admire each and every breeder on this board for teaching people that come to this board that its not about the cute fluffy puppies or the money that can be made selling them , but the downfalls of it as well... I honestly doubt that on that website you purchased a puppy that you should breed...or that could produce the BEST puppies in Massachusetts!!! We have some excellent breeders in Massachusetts who have dogs that are imported as well as Champions and champion sired!!

And yes , I did mean to to to NYC for the Dog show since its only a 3 hour ride, if all goes well I plan to attend , just to watch !!

Mardelin · 02-07-2010, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by colt45kush

well when i went up there and stuff i met her at her home i would suppose and then she showed me like 2 or 3 boys and i told her i was really interested in a girl and after some discussion she sold me her but the whole thing is she didnt give me akc papers they were aca papers which is why i just came home and immediatly registered that day but as far as really heckling me on buying a female i would have to say as much as i would love to say she did i dont think she did it as much as she should have now that im really thinking about it so idk i might of gotten jipped if it wasnt suberbowl sunday i would call but its already 9 pm

ACA is American Canine Association....it is not the register used by reputable beeders.

Heckling you (your word)...is not what I meant. A reputable breeder would not sell a female or male with breeders rights without "knowing" you and don't mean one or two meetings.......An example when I began showing and researched breeders/pedigrees, and bred the type of yorkie I liked. I knew her, since she was a fellow Yorkie Regional Club member. But, after I asked her for a Show Dog.....I didn't get one from her for a year and a half. She put me through the paces.....made me learn everything about showing, grooming, training, breeding, whelping, etc. It gave her enough time to look into my heart and see if I had the welfare of the yorkie breed in my heart and could trust me with her line. I traveled to shows with her, she was/is my mentor.

JeanieK · 02-07-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by colt45kush

well when i went up there and stuff i met her at her home i would suppose and then she showed me like 2 or 3 boys and i told her i was really interested in a girl and after some discussion she sold me her but the whole thing is she didnt give me akc papers they were aca papers which is why i just came home and immediatly registered that day but as far as really heckling me on buying a female i would have to say as much as i would love to say she did i dont think she did it as much as she should have now that im really thinking about it so idk i might of gotten jipped if it wasnt suberbowl sunday i would call but its already 9 pm

You were not sold a show quality dog. you were sold a puppy with breeding rights. If she did not give you AKC papers then chances are it is not registered AKC. her ad probably means that some of them are AKC, some are other registries.

I'm guessing it is too late to get your money back. So if you are serious about breeding show dogs, then you need to spay this dog, and look for a mentor.

topknot · 02-07-2010, 06:10 PM

I am pretty sure the pups with the big eyes are photoshopped to make it look cute. Like the Asian cartoons - big eyed characters. This also could mean that the ones that look so small are probably not as small as they seem in the photo.
Also she has Visa/MC on her website, She will hand deliver your pup for just 65.00! Wow - Not a good thing - sounds like she wants to catch a person when in the mood to buy - too much delay and more time to think about it - not good for her! And she is breeding Morkies! This is a mixed breed and she is probably selling them for more than a mixed dog is worth. If it quacks like a duck and sounds like a duck - it's a duck! I would not breed this girl. She is not even AKC. You want to breed the best - you need to start all over again. You need a mentor, you need to learn what is correct to standard and how to do things right. I am so sorry that you spent money on this one and should not breed her, but that is a lesson well learned. At least you have a girl you love, as a pet and enjoy her as a pet. When you vet spays her - be sure to have her tested. Have you taken her to your vet yet to be thoroughly checked? I would. There could be genics - that you want to make sure before anything happens. I have my dogs checked - just to be sure.

capt_noonie · 02-07-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by topknot

I am pretty sure the pups with the big eyes are photoshopped to make it look cute. Like the Asian cartoons - big eyed characters. This also could mean that the ones that look so small are probably not as small as they seem in the photo.
Also she has Visa/MC on her website, She will hand deliver your pup for just 65.00! Wow - Not a good thing - sounds like she wants to catch a person when in the mood to buy - too much delay and more time to think about it - not good for her! And she is breeding Morkies! This is a mixed breed and she is probably selling them for more than a mixed dog is worth. If it quacks like a duck and sounds like a duck - it's a duck! I would not breed this girl. She is not even AKC. You want to breed the best - you need to start all over again. You need a mentor, you need to learn what is correct to standard and how to do things right. I am so sorry that you spent money on this one and should not breed her, but that is a lesson well learned. At least you have a girl you love, as a pet and enjoy her as a pet. When you vet spays her - be sure to have her tested. Have you taken her to your vet yet to be thoroughly checked? I would. There could be genics - that you want to make sure before anything happens. I have my dogs checked - just to be sure.

Exactly. We have seen and discussed this breeder before, but I can't seem to find the thread, it wasn't that long ago. Those eyes are either photoshopped or they have that enlarged brain deformity thing that some people for some reason seem to think is too cute. I said it before, the whole design and layout of the website has a very asian aesthetic to it. This is definitely not a breeder one would buy from if they wanted to breed the best of the best.

topknot · 02-07-2010, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by capt_noonie

Exactly. We have seen and discussed this breeder before, but I can't seem to find the thread, it wasn't that long ago. Those eyes are either photoshopped or they have that enlarged brain deformity thing that some people for some reason seem to think is too cute. I said it before, the whole design and layout of the website has a very asian aesthetic to it. This is definitely not a breeder one would buy from if they wanted to breed the best of the best.

I thought so! I did some searching on that one and she also had a place in CA and the one in NY had something connected to the garment industry. She does a lot of advertising!! Lots!! If my search was correct.

LOL - I just read my duck analogy - Boy I had that worded wrong. Must be pass my bedtime.
"If it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck... It's a duck!

jeanm1963 · 02-07-2010, 06:24 PM

There is also another dog show in Fitchburg Ma, Here is the upcoming Schedule, I went to this and it was alot of fun , there were beautiful Yorkies there!
NorEast Cluster

Mardelin · 02-07-2010, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by topknot

I thought so! I did some searching on that one and she also had a place in CA and the one in NY had something connected to the garment industry. She does a lot of advertising!! Lots!! If my search was correct.

LOL - I just read my duck analogy - Boy I had that worded wrong. Must be pass my bedtime.
"If it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck... It's a duck!

I understood what you meant.

To the OP, I reiterate, do your homework, research, study, take your time....No short cuts.....if you want a short cut go to a Barber.

Love your little girl....spay her and love her, she's lucky to have you.

capt_noonie · 02-07-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by topknot

I thought so! I did some searching on that one and she also had a place in CA and the one in NY had something connected to the garment industry. She does a lot of advertising!! Lots!! If my search was correct.

LOL - I just read my duck analogy - Boy I had that worded wrong. Must be pass my bedtime.

Hmm... Very interesting.

gemy · 02-07-2010, 06:31 PM

Well I went to website. No pedigree info available on her dogs. I emailed her, asking for AKC pedigree information . Let me see how she responds

colt45kush · 02-07-2010, 08:03 PM

not once did i say she was gonna be the best of the best i just asked for research information i stated that i was going to start my breeding experience with her and i still plan to even though she is not akc which i do plan on call the breeder and finding out the deal with the aca and akc stuff but i plan on breeding her just for the experience and because the puppys already have a home one to me one to my mom one to my father in law and one to a friend doubt theyre will be mroe then four and im only hoping for one honesly just the one for me

but after that she is getting fixed and thats that it takes buying a yorkie to research a yorkie fully in depth honestly..... i mean i did research but not as much as i did when i owned one

Mardelin · 02-07-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by colt45kush

not once did i say she was gonna be the best of the best i just asked for research information i stated that i was going to start my breeding experience with her and i still plan to even though she is not akc which i do plan on call the breeder and finding out the deal with the aca and akc stuff but i plan on breeding her just for the experience and because the puppys already have a home one to my mom one to my father in law and one to a friend

You asked for information, it was given to you. If she isn't the best of the best then you shouldn't be breeding her. You got her from a not so good breeder, who probably doesn't test her breeding dogs. She sold a dog on open registration to someone she really didn't know, therefore very evident she cares nothing for her dogs.

Good Luck.....

capt_noonie · 02-07-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin

You asked for information, it was given to you. If she isn't the best of the best then you shouldn't be breeding her. You got her from a not so good breeder, who probably doesn't test her breeding dogs. She sold a dog on open registration to someone she really didn't know, therefore very evident she cares nothing for her dogs.

Good Luck.....

I agree. I think if you are adamant about breeding, spay this one first and keep as a pet only. THEN find a mentor and learn even more, and have the mentor help you find an AKC dog that can be the best of the best. If you start with this one, you will never get there.

02-07-2010, 05:54 PM	#33
jeanm1963 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Weymouth, Ma Posts: 2,584	I have seen thier add on Kijji, many times.. I just figured they were puppy mill dogs.... I cant believe she has breeding rights !! While I think breeders are amazing , it is just amazing what goes into it, the research, the money , the time, the energy , finding home, loosing puppies... I cant even imagine. I cant say that I am an experienced breeder , however due to sickness I have spent hours upon hours on this site reading and at the very least learned that breeding requires a mentor, MONEY ( LOTS OF IT) , time, experience , medical testing and yes the preperation that your dog may die. What I learned most that it is NOT a money making business, sometimes I read about the , c-sections, puppy food, whelping boxes, testing , meds for mom and puppies and realize this is deffinatly not for everyone and should be taken very seriously , expecially since you can loose your baby... I admire each and every breeder on this board for teaching people that come to this board that its not about the cute fluffy puppies or the money that can be made selling them , but the downfalls of it as well... I honestly doubt that on that website you purchased a puppy that you should breed...or that could produce the BEST puppies in Massachusetts!!! We have some excellent breeders in Massachusetts who have dogs that are imported as well as Champions and champion sired!! And yes , I did mean to to to NYC for the Dog show since its only a 3 hour ride, if all goes well I plan to attend , just to watch !! __________________ I Support http://www.yorkiesinc.com/

02-07-2010, 06:24 PM	#39
jeanm1963 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Weymouth, Ma Posts: 2,584	There is also another dog show in Fitchburg Ma, Here is the upcoming Schedule, I went to this and it was alot of fun , there were beautiful Yorkies there! NorEast Cluster __________________ I Support http://www.yorkiesinc.com/

02-07-2010, 06:31 PM	#42
gemy YT 2000 Club Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Huntsville,Ont,Canaada Posts: 12,340 Blog Entries: 2	Well I went to website. No pedigree info available on her dogs. I emailed her, asking for AKC pedigree information . Let me see how she responds __________________ Razzle and Dara. Our clan. RIP Karma Dec 24th 2004-July 14 2013 RIP Zoey Jun9 th 2008-May 12 2012. RIP Magic,Mar 26 2006July 1st 2018

02-07-2010, 08:03 PM	#43
colt45kush Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New Bedford Massachusetts Posts: 39	not once did i say she was gonna be the best of the best i just asked for research information i stated that i was going to start my breeding experience with her and i still plan to even though she is not akc which i do plan on call the breeder and finding out the deal with the aca and akc stuff but i plan on breeding her just for the experience and because the puppys already have a home one to me one to my mom one to my father in law and one to a friend doubt theyre will be mroe then four and im only hoping for one honesly just the one for me but after that she is getting fixed and thats that it takes buying a yorkie to research a yorkie fully in depth honestly..... i mean i did research but not as much as i did when i owned one Last edited by colt45kush; 02-07-2010 at 08:06 PM.

02-07-2010, 05:51 PM	#31
WinstonMom YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 384	Those photos almost look like they were photoshopped or something. I know it is a psychological thing that human are attracted to animals and babies with big eyes by wow, some of those puppies look almost like kittens. Audrey

02-07-2010, 06:10 PM	#36
topknot Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA Posts: 3,787	I am pretty sure the pups with the big eyes are photoshopped to make it look cute. Like the Asian cartoons - big eyed characters. This also could mean that the ones that look so small are probably not as small as they seem in the photo. Also she has Visa/MC on her website, She will hand deliver your pup for just 65.00! Wow - Not a good thing - sounds like she wants to catch a person when in the mood to buy - too much delay and more time to think about it - not good for her! And she is breeding Morkies! This is a mixed breed and she is probably selling them for more than a mixed dog is worth. If it quacks like a duck and sounds like a duck - it's a duck! I would not breed this girl. She is not even AKC. You want to breed the best - you need to start all over again. You need a mentor, you need to learn what is correct to standard and how to do things right. I am so sorry that you spent money on this one and should not breed her, but that is a lesson well learned. At least you have a girl you love, as a pet and enjoy her as a pet. When you vet spays her - be sure to have her tested. Have you taken her to your vet yet to be thoroughly checked? I would. There could be genics - that you want to make sure before anything happens. I have my dogs checked - just to be sure.