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04-15-2009, 05:05 PM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mertztown, PA
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| Should I breed my 4 pound Yorkie Hello everybody, I'm a new Yorkie owner. I honestly got my Yorkie to have strictly as a pet. But she is gorgeous. (we all think so, right??) No. Seriously. A lot of people have expressed interest and have suggested that I should breed her. My question is.. is it worth the reward to breed my Yorkie?? Or is it too much trouble? I'm sure it's a lot of trouble. But is it worth it? I'm just afraid I will fall inlove with all the puppies. I don't know what I'm getting myself into. I need advice. I don't want to breed just for the money. I think that's cruel. But I would love to maybe keep them.. or give them to close family members. I don't know. I haven't had her fixed yet. She is 7 months.. I'm thinking IF I decide to breed, I will wait until she's older. She is just a puppy. Tell me about your experiences. I need advice. Thanks, Ldmv98 |
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04-15-2009, 05:13 PM | #2 |
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| Four pounds is pretty small, and if her parents or previous generations were bigger than she, then I guess the possibility for her to have larger pups is greater. She could still grow a bit to be larger than 4 lbs too, at 7 months I think that is a possibility. I would wait for some other advise though, I am still learning a lot about breeding.
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04-15-2009, 05:25 PM | #3 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | Congratulations on getting such an adorable little yorkie. Most breeders don't like to breed girls below 5 pounds, and so they sell their beautiful tiny girls to pet only homes. Males, on the other hand, can be smaller, and many people recommend the male be smaller than the female when breeding. The risks are much higher for a tiny female, and often they need a cesarean, a risky and expensive procedure. Before breeding, there is really a great deal of research that needs to be done. You need to do certain health screening to insure that you little girl isn't passing any hereditary diseases. She and the stud should both be checked for STD because even though it's the first time for both, they can still have a sexually transmitted disease. Breeding changes the personality of the female, and breeders often have to put up with extreme moodiness of their females. While I'm thankful that we have many good breeders, I don't think they really get to enjoy their pets, like the average pet owner, so unless you want to put in a lot of time energy and money into breeding, I say leave it to the pro's. Welcome to Yorkietalk. I think most of us have thought about breeding at one time, at least until we learned more about it!
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04-15-2009, 05:26 PM | #4 |
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| Awww, if it were me I'd leave it to the pro's. Don't risk your little girls life.
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04-15-2009, 05:34 PM | #5 |
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| Hello, I wanted to Welcome you and your little girl to Yorkie Talk...As far as breeding her I would listen to the pro breeders on this site and not do it. It's just not worth the risk... Hope you enjoy our site...
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04-15-2009, 05:48 PM | #6 |
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| We (ok so I ) LOVE our pups beyond measure, however... Every time I read about the angst 'breeders' go thru, i think...NO WAY. Anyone who, responsibily, breeds goes thru SO much. Akkkkk. I am one tough chick but to have a pup or Mum die in my hands..ladies, it would break my heart beyond measure.....I'll leave that to people who I can trust. |
04-15-2009, 06:44 PM | #7 |
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| Your female could possible reach over 5 lbs by the time she is 2 years old and old enough to breed. There is a lot of research that goes into responsible breeding. There is much more to consider besides weight. They have to have the proper build to be able to deliver puppies naturally. You have lots of time to study and research the possibility. You would want to talk to your vet and other experienced breeders to have her evaluated. With breeding there are many risk even if she does reach 5 lbs. Often the small females require a c-section and there is the risk of a ruptured uterus. Best wishes with whatever you do. |
04-15-2009, 07:02 PM | #8 |
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| I say leave her as your sweet baby. Tell the others to admire the beauty and that it is ok to be jealous.. hee hee ~ just kidding!
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04-16-2009, 05:09 AM | #9 |
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| At only 7 months, she is still just a puppy and has not yet developed all of the traits she will possess as an adult. At this point, there is no way to determine if as an adult, she will be of a quality that *should* be bred. If she only reaches 4 lbs as an adult, then that is really too small to breed. General rule of thumb is females should be 5 pounds MINIMUM with careful consideration of her pelvic structure. Not to mention, there are so many more factors that have to be taken into consideration and so much to learn before making that decision. Who cares what interest other people have expressed? Your decision to breed shouldn't be based on or influenced by what other people suggest. (Unless maybe they are highly experienced Yorkie breeders themselves.) As far as "breeding just for the money"...it's a very good thing that you are not motivated by that. Ask any breeder here and they will tell you that there is no profit and you generally end up investing way more than you ever see in return. Now, enough with the formalities. Welcome to YT and where are pics of your little fubutt!? |
04-16-2009, 05:11 AM | #10 |
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| Gorgeous" is not a good reason to breed your girl. is she worthy of being bred? has she been checked yet for health problems? is she true to the yorkie standard set forth by AKC. So many things to consider. If you can answer yes to all these questions and she makes it to FIVE pounds, it would be alright to breed her AFTER, you have researched all the inss and outs of breeding your dog. You must also find a male that is worthy of her and has more than handsome looks going for him. it is also good that you are not going to breed for money. You would have a very rude awakening. Last edited by Sugar's Mom; 04-16-2009 at 05:12 AM. |
04-18-2009, 08:33 PM | #11 |
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| Let me give you an eye opener on breeding. On Easter Sunday(by the way you won't get holidays or rest) Jolene my 10# girl gave birth in the morning to a blessed little girl. I watched Jolene carefully(she was due Fri. before)but she showed no signs of having more. I was still not easy so told my husband we would have to drive separately to his mom's house for Easter dinner. I left at 12:30 pm and returned at 3:00. Checked Jolene immediately and she looked really glum. I knew something was wrong so called my friend to come over to give her shot of oxytocin after we checked her and decided she still had more kids to come. She had a puppy stuck and though we tried to move it do you know how much room you have in a Yorkie lol. We decided it was time to take her to emergency vet. I called them and they said it would be between $1000 to $1500. We went back to get Jolene and she had passed the dead puppy. It was folded in half and could not get out. My friend went home and I watched Jolene as she had 3 more puppies including another dead one. 3 live kids. Meanwhile Louise who is 5# and was not due till the 16th got stirred up by all the excitement and went into labor same night. I watched Louise have 1 dead puppy then 2 live ones and 4th puppy got stuck. I tried to turn it but it did not work so at 5:00am I am talking to Lou while she rests between pushes and at 7:50 I am on phone to my vet about bringing Lou to vet to get puppy out. I walk back in room and she is cleaning dead puppy. 4 dead puppies in 24 hrs is a terrible toll but does happen. The heartbreak of thinking what if something happens to my girl. It is very hard emotionally to be a breeder. Both girls this was their 2nd litter . They had no problems the 1st time. No indications there was going to be any this time but stuff does happen. So do alot of reading about what can happen. Do you have a vet who will meet you on holidays or weekend or middle of the nite for an emergency? Now for the good part? Watching the proud mamas feeding their crew, holding the little tiny darlings and the sweet smell of puppy breath. Watching everyday for their eyes to open, seeing their individual personalities growing as each day goes by. These are your rewards. By the way don't count on making alot of money lol. You spend more on them then you get back, sometimes you break even if your lucky. So do alot of research before delving into breeding as it does not always turn out with no problems. Good luck, Sue |
04-19-2009, 06:14 AM | #12 | |
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Oh def. wait till she is AT LEAST 18 months. She is very small.... I would take her to the vet for a full workup close to her 18 month mark, (with her size, 2 years is actually safer in my opinion), and consult the vet on your questions. Keep in mind that if you do decide to breed her, do a lot of research into AKC standards, (the YTCA website also has a lot of info on this) and AKC website has the details of what you'd need to know if you do want to breed. Get your vet's opinion on her conformation and temperment, as well as maybe a 2nd or 3rd opinion. Then, if you are going to breed her, find a high quality stud. So do some research into pedigrees and bloodlines. Breeding quality yorkies takes a lot of research if you want to do it right and not decrease the quality of the species. I started looking for a stud 1 year before I even knew my first yorkie would be ready to go into heat. Oh, one more thing to determine her quality for breeding is determining her bloodline quality. Get ahold of her breeder, see if her grandparents or greats had genetic issues that may not show up until this litter.... because those recessive genes are sneaky. Good luck!!! Last edited by heavenlyyorkies; 04-19-2009 at 06:17 AM. | |
04-19-2009, 07:59 AM | #13 |
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| You have to look at their structures when it comes to breeding. Most likely she is done growing. My biewer was 1 1/2 lbs when I got her at 5 1/2 mos and now at 10 mos, she stays between 2 and 2 1/2 but, has been that weight now since she was around 6 to 6 1/2 mos. I would wait until she's over a year old then check out her structure. I know most people say 5 lbs, but, it has a lot to do with the structure too and not just the weight. The thing you have to remember, is with these little dogs, a lot can go wrong. you can lose the mama and all the pups, or like some have done, just lost the mother and had to bottle feed babies every 1 1/2 to 2 hours for the first 3 weeks of their lives. Breeding is not something to just get in too because of how pretty a yorkie is, etc. |
04-19-2009, 08:22 AM | #14 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! | Amen! I just bought 2 AKC registered yorkies from a woman who I now think is a puppy mill person! here is the story she told me: both 2 years old ,1 male 1 female, unfixed. Good with children, housebroken, up to date on shots, female de-barked...both sound physically! Very cute little tykes and they had had a ltter together of 6 pups a year ago. O.K. I go to look at them and she has the boys AKC registeration but not the girls? she has it in her possession but it has never been updated from the last owner. I take the dogs all their info...basically becasue i want to save them and withhold money from the payment until I get her papers straightened out. meanwhile I soon discover neither one is housebroke...she can bark as good as he can...not good with kids don't think they have ever seen a child ! AND they had to have all their shots updated and new cuz her records didn't reflect any current shots! Another $240, with worm check and heartworm meds for spring. He is not sound..if from injury ( he is a real jumper!) or congenital hard to tell ???? Now it was my dream to start with these two dogs and build a kennel...been my dream for 40 some years !!!! 3 days after we get them she goes into heat! causing me to devise what I call Heidi's dietie! We also have large pom male fixed. Woman keeps giving me the run around about papers says she's mailed for them but I never get them??? Wants her money...not until i get papers baby cakes! Also I feel i have been lead FAR astray and she is not entitled to the rest of the money becasue of the lies !!! Final conclusions.. Will keep them as pets but I still want her papers as they were promised to me!!! they are learning and I sure as heck have!!! they are wonderful little dogs who just needed someone to love them! I guess she could still be bred but after reading these posts.. I think I will just keep her safe and get the surgeries scheduled for both of them! Thanks buds |
04-19-2009, 08:27 AM | #15 |
"& Seeger, too" Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Central Kentucky
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| I don't think so. 4# is too small and it could jeopardize her life and her puppies.
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