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09-04-2008, 06:36 PM | #1 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Michigan
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| Michigan Breeders-Very Important Info. PLEASE READ! Very important legislation concerning "ALL" breeders in Michigan. PLEASE READ! American Kennel Club - Michigan Breeder Bill Introduced |
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09-04-2008, 06:55 PM | #2 |
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| I think this bill is horrible. It really only holds back the honest breeders and does nothing to the "greeders" as they stay under the radar. This would kill many of the small time breeders.
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09-04-2008, 07:42 PM | #3 |
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| Horrible indeed!!! I am going to email them!!!
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09-05-2008, 06:56 AM | #4 |
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| I might email them but just don't know what to say (or don't know how to say it nicely). More laws to fill pages and restrict freedom...
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09-05-2008, 07:00 AM | #5 |
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| I'm not comfortable with the gov't being able to deny you a liscence at will. I wonder what their basis for denial/approval is....? Other than that though, I honestly don't see what the problem with the bill is. |
09-05-2008, 07:04 AM | #6 | |
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Not to mention who decides there are enough of a particular breed that's received a license.
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09-05-2008, 07:08 AM | #7 |
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09-05-2008, 07:13 AM | #8 | |
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Plus I think any legislation like that...won't affect the group being targeted. The greeders....who operate without following laws anyway.
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09-05-2008, 08:07 AM | #9 | |
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I think the overall goal is good, I just don't think this would be the best process for achieving it. | |
09-05-2008, 11:34 AM | #10 |
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| Pretty soon, the only place you're going to be able to buy pups from will be puppymills. It seems like they are making things more and more difficult for small reputable breeders. |
09-05-2008, 02:45 PM | #11 |
Missing Yoshi Everyday! Donating Member | wow this looks almost like the bill that was pass here...stating that have to get license to breed...and if we have more than 2 females that is not spayed and will be breed we will have to setup a kennel and have it available for inspection during business...and i don't even know where start on complaining about it!!!!
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09-05-2008, 03:31 PM | #12 |
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| Honestly, I don't really know how I feel about the whole thing... I see good and bad aspects of the proposition. No one can deny that puppy mills and pet over population are a major problem these days. People have been calling for something to be done about it for years. I see this as a step towards that, with some major kinks to work out. I don't think there is a porper governing agency in existance at the current time that could adequately oversee the enforced policies. I realize that implementing something like this would be an inconvenince for reputable breeders and pet owners, which is very unfair, but honestly, what alternative is there? I'm sure that there are lots of details regarding this and similar propositions that I have not thoguht out, but these are just my initial thoughts. |
09-05-2008, 04:35 PM | #13 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Indiana
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| Pure overpopulation isn't the real issue in my opinion, Most dogs at shelters are abandoned because they have bad habits that were not dealt with in training. So many are basically unruly individuals that are dumped, and their former owners just pick up another cute puppy somewhere. So until you can be sure only responsible people will be buying dogs you will have this problem. That is not possible to do via legislation. IMHO until every local community offers very low cost or free spay/neuter, and also provides low cost or free training programs for new pet owners, those communites (or the state where the communities are located) need to stay away from passing unenforceable laws that restrict the constitutional rights of dog breeders. You can't legislate everything, laws simply don't solve problems like this but free or low cost services and education can help immensely. Forgive my typos, blackberries are not conducive to making corrections lol. |
09-05-2008, 05:04 PM | #14 |
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| Honestly I don't see this as an answer to the problems of overpopulation. Legislation like this is a way for the state to make more money in my opinion. Mainly because the bad breeders and puppymills will continue to run until someone stops them. The majority of puppies and dogs that you find at the shelters typically are not purebreds either. They are the result of neighborhood dogs breeding because like others have said they can't afford to have them spayed or neutered at a decent price. I believe that a little education and some cost effective programs would take care of alot of the problems. I don't mind having inspections of my breeding program. In fact I would welcome them, but I don't care to have them decide whether or not I can or cannot breed. |
09-05-2008, 05:35 PM | #15 |
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| My question is this: Who is going to fund these cost effective programs for education and lower costs s/n programs? And who would they benefit? Do you think that the people type of breeders/owners who are the root of the problem would participate willingly? Probably not. Unless it is made into an enforceable law, no one would comply. |
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