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Gingergirlsmom · 05-03-2008, 05:10 PM

You asked if this is an "easy kinda thing". Please read the links above. They are the most honest answer to your question.

TeddyandTiffy · 05-03-2008, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britt1005

i understand there are plenty of animals at the pound .. but i want her to have her own baby ..

I am a Breeder of Yorkshire Terriers ONLY, with that being said I feel you will take from our breed if you mix breed...If folks such as yourself keep doing this just because they want them to have their own babies or think they will be cute MIX BREED puppies then on down the road of life there will BE NO Yorkshire Terriers...Why would U want to add to this already growing problem of loosing our Yorkshire Terrier breed???

Why are U wanting to U're Yorkie to have her own babies??? What is U're true reasons behind this??

If you are really serious about BREEDING don't MIX BREED...Stay with one breed and build it up...Find U a mentor to help U understand the ups and downs, the dos and don'ts of BREEDING...Read books, buy videos, ask questions, go to U're breeder U adopted U're Yorkie from ask her questions, ask her if she would care if U let U're Yorkie MIX Breed...I feel this is totally unfair to U're Yorkie Breeder...I would NEVER allow ANYONE to MIX Breed my Yorkies...

It's not like U think it is just throwing to dogs together to get puppies, those cute little babies may be whelped with serious health issues such as heart problems, breathing problems, missing legs, missing paws & those Oh So Cute Puppies may grow up to be Oh So Ugly Dogs, so please reconsider your MIX breeding...

Do Breeding the Right way, not the wrong way...U're setting yourself up for heartache and all those people who adopt U're puppies will also have heartache and pass that heartache on to others...Breeding ANY Dog is serious & not to be taken lightly...U need to think this through.

Look up MIX breeding on the internet, see what U can find out about health issues...I'm sure there's others out there who will and can tell U from their experience that Mix Breeding is heataches waiting to happen...

I hope U won't take what I've said in the wrong way, I tell facts and I love my Yorkshire Terrier Breed just the way they are...Please share in that love for our precious breed also and do not mix breed. And of course this is my OPO

Lee

Sunnie · 05-03-2008, 05:36 PM

I am sorry we cannot seem to convince you that this IS NOT an EASY thing to do. ESPECIALLY with yorkies. Do you know the cost of a c-section? Yorkies are MANY times more likely to need one. MINE DID! I also lost all 3 babies of my first litter and I had a mentor who had been breeding for 30 years. The daddy was smaller than my female which is a good idea with these little guys so they don't have babies too big for them. The babies were less than 2 ounces and I am ashamed to say I lost all 3 as they were too tiny. I read and read and studied and asked questions and was so ready for it. I had my whelping area set up just like my breeder taught me... heating pad, etc... learned how to swing a puppy so it doesn't drown in it's own fluids.. I was SO ready. AND I LOST ALL THREE!! I was devestated! I cried for myself and I cried for my mommy who cried for her babies. Are you ready for that heartache? Those babies she free whelped since they were so tiny. She had one more litter... this time the daddy was bigger and NOT the stud I had planned on. She ended up having 2 beautiful babies which I kept, but that was after $1200 for a c-section, plus $150 for x-rays, then the costs to remove dew claws, and dock the tails..... I had her spayed then because I do not want her to have to go thru that again and I love her enough that I want to enjoy her for years. I know this is not going to change your mind, but I will tell you good luck... I don't think you are going to have much luck here with anyone telling you it is the RIGHT thing to do. I feel for your baby. I just know you have no idea what you are getting into and it is a shame she doesn't have a say in it. If you love your baby so much.. why would you put her thru that when you aren't even respecting her purebred status by mixing her breed. Like someone said, there are so many MUTTS alrready.. WHY would anyone intentionally BREED to get more MUTTS??
I really am not trying to be rude and I really do wish you luck.

sapo1009 · 05-03-2008, 05:54 PM

Just a quick question no one here likes morkies here in MI where I live I have been told that they sell the same because many dont like to deal with the papers? I have not done this but I did think about it. now I am thinking twice.

britt1005 · 05-03-2008, 06:16 PM

you guys make this seem so racist .. and its funny to me .. im not going to tear the whole yorkie breed up by mixing it .. thats to funny .. i am in fact going to breed her ..

but my true question is when do i mate her .. i was told after she stops bleeding .. but i thought it was while she was bleeding ......

britt1005 · 05-03-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunnie

I am sorry we cannot seem to convince you that this IS NOT an EASY thing to do. ESPECIALLY with yorkies. Do you know the cost of a c-section? Yorkies are MANY times more likely to need one. MINE DID! I also lost all 3 babies of my first litter and I had a mentor who had been breeding for 30 years. The daddy was smaller than my female which is a good idea with these little guys so they don't have babies too big for them. The babies were less than 2 ounces and I am ashamed to say I lost all 3 as they were too tiny. I read and read and studied and asked questions and was so ready for it. I had my whelping area set up just like my breeder taught me... heating pad, etc... learned how to swing a puppy so it doesn't drown in it's own fluids.. I was SO ready. AND I LOST ALL THREE!! I was devestated! I cried for myself and I cried for my mommy who cried for her babies. Are you ready for that heartache? Those babies she free whelped since they were so tiny. She had one more litter... this time the daddy was bigger and NOT the stud I had planned on. She ended up having 2 beautiful babies which I kept, but that was after $1200 for a c-section, plus $150 for x-rays, then the costs to remove dew claws, and dock the tails..... I had her spayed then because I do not want her to have to go thru that again and I love her enough that I want to enjoy her for years. I know this is not going to change your mind, but I will tell you good luck... I don't think you are going to have much luck here with anyone telling you it is the RIGHT thing to do. I feel for your baby. I just know you have no idea what you are getting into and it is a shame she doesn't have a say in it. If you love your baby so much.. why would you put her thru that when you aren't even respecting her purebred status by mixing her breed. Like someone said, there are so many MUTTS alrready.. WHY would anyone intentionally BREED to get more MUTTS??
I really am not trying to be rude and I really do wish you luck.

JUST SO YOU KNOW YOU ARE IN FACT THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS LEFT A COMMENT ON HERE THAT MAKES ANY SENCE AT ALL TO ME ... I WILL BE RESEARCHING IT MORE B4 I GO ON AND DO IT .. BUT THE WHOLE THING ABOUT EVERY ONE TELLING ME TO GO GET ONE AT THE POUND WASNT RIGHT TO ME MADE ME FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS WOULD RATHER ME GO OUT AND BUY HER A BABY INSTEAD OF LETTING HER GET HER OWN ..

Sunnie · 05-03-2008, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britt1005

JUST SO YOU KNOW YOU ARE IN FACT THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS LEFT A COMMENT ON HERE THAT MAKES ANY SENCE AT ALL TO ME ... I WILL BE RESEARCHING IT MORE B4 I GO ON AND DO IT .. BUT THE WHOLE THING ABOUT EVERY ONE TELLING ME TO GO GET ONE AT THE POUND WASNT RIGHT TO ME MADE ME FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS WOULD RATHER ME GO OUT AND BUY HER A BABY INSTEAD OF LETTING HER GET HER OWN ..

Hon, thank you for reading my comments with an open mind. I appreciate that. I think you might want to ask yourself, WHO wants the baby?? Her? or you?? Believe me, your little girl isn't thinking like a human does.. I want a baby... I know that when we get a sweet purebred pet that we would love to have more of them.. It is an inticing idea to breed our own babies. I can tell you from experience that puppies are hard work and you will find that although the mom may or may not want to stay with the puppies.. I had to lay down in the pen with them to get mine to stay with them. Within a few weeks it is not MOMMY who wants to stay with the babies.. it is YOU that will have to. It is really hard on the moms. If that is what you want to do, I really think you should breed her to another yorkie. And you really should have her tested by the vet and make sure that the male is tested as well. The last thing you want is to have unhealthy babies. Not all yorkies can carry and birth babies. The vet should look at her structure and make sure she is the right size to havev babies without hurting or possibly killing her. Especially if you try to breed her to a maltese. If the maltese has a bigger head for instance, the puppies might not be able to pass thru her birth canal. I don't think anyone is trying to make you feel bad, it is just that we are passionate about yorkies and we want the best for them. And believe it or not, we want the best for YOUR yorkie as well. Please , if you have your mind set that this is what you plan to do, please speak to your vet and ask him questions about all we have said on here. Make sure she safely can have puppies..... Make sure she doesn't have anything genetically wrong with her that can produce unhealthy babies.. Same for the male.. for the sake of YOUR baby, make sure the male has been tested too. Good luck

PS in answer to your question, the female will tell you when she is ready. She will not allow the male to tie with her until she is ready. That is usually between 9-12 days after she starts bleeding.

TeddyandTiffy · 05-03-2008, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britt1005

you guys make this seem so racist .. and its funny to me .. im not going to tear the whole yorkie breed up by mixing it .. thats to funny .. i am in fact going to breed her ..

but my true question is when do i mate her .. i was told after she stops bleeding .. but i thought it was while she was bleeding ......

Okay I don't understand why U think MIX BREEDING is so funny...I think it's sad that U even want to take our Yorkie Breed and do the Mix Breeding with it. U may not tear the whole Yorkie Breed up by mixing it but U will pass U're Mix Breed puppies right down the road to someone else who will then in turn have Mix Breed Puppies...I don't get what's so funny about it...I think U're not into reality about Breeding Yorkies. It's sad to see you have this attitude with our Precious Yorkie Breed.

So U're going to go ahead and breed U're female? Have U thought about the what ifs of loosing her? What if she whelps a baby puppy that is to big for her to pass, are U going to get up @ 3 am and run her to the Vet for a C-Section? Do U know how long she can go inbetween whelping puppies??? I do for a Yorkie what about the other Breed U want to mix breed her with??? See U're getting into a lot that U don't know about yet, 1 breed to me is hard to handle, learn and be safe with but to mix breed is to me to RISKY for U're female. Have U thought about that?

U don't even know really when to breed her...Please do research before U breed her...next U'll be coming on here asking how to save one of her puppies, please really truely think about this...U're attitude won't help U're Yorkie any....

As far as me helping answer U're questions sorry no help here, that may sound bad but I can't answer that for I only Breed Yorkies and I won't answer that for I don't feel safe answering that question for U with U mix breeding.

If U would do U're researching 1st and ask for a Mentor to assist U in the whelping process then I feel in the long run U can do this safely and be happy about U're choices. Sorry but these are my OPO tho. Lee

dawglvr4life · 05-03-2008, 07:39 PM

There are enough mixed breeds in shelters and rescues that no one wants. Please don't do it.

Chrissy0277 · 05-03-2008, 07:43 PM

Ok striving to be a postive poster so all Im going to say is....

Ughh just what we need yet more mixed breeds in this world. Better yet from an inexperienced wannabe breeder.

Go ahead breed your girl but maybe you should READ the links posted. Someone just posted today about how they just lost 2 pups that their girl just had. And this person is experienced and shes just devastated.

You want you girl to have a baby of her own.. Im curious did she come out and tell you this? She isnt going to be devastated if she isnt a mommy. She may however thank you for possibly saving her life from horrible things such as a pyometria if she were spayed

Woogie Man · 05-03-2008, 10:09 PM

Your little girl looks adorable. From the picture you posted of her she looks too small to breed, be it to a Maltese or a Yorkie. It's not advisable to breed a female Yorkie under 5 pounds; there are too many risks in breeding the smaller females. I do hope you will take that into account in your decision making.

YorkieChick1 · 05-03-2008, 11:01 PM

I don't really think anything that is rational will penetrate her brain. She is set in her ways and we just have to pray for her pup...

kelkiss5 · 05-04-2008, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woogie Man

Your little girl looks adorable. From the picture you posted of her she looks too small to breed, be it to a Maltese or a Yorkie. It's not advisable to breed a female Yorkie under 5 pounds; there are too many risks in breeding the smaller females. I do hope you will take that into account in your decision making.

I have to agree with you and say that she looks way to small to breed anyway.

So Britt would you take this into considertion????. I mean you really wouldnt want to harm her intentionly, "would you". I dont think so.

PROLINKer · 05-04-2008, 03:06 AM

Please breed her with a yorkie the least. Mixed breed has a lot of health issue that can't be researched in the internet coz they are not known breeds.

KYBLUE · 05-04-2008, 04:04 AM

ok how about i am now subfeeding a little boy every 2 hours so my life is right here at home until only god knows when
do you work out side the home are you able to get up every 2 hours around the clock if not well pup won't make it
or what if it is the whole litter?
that you have to potty and feed and weigh etc it isnt even about mixing
the breed it is about the night mare that can occur and how mentally exhausting it can be and how attached you get and still maybe loose
the pup or litter please do your homework it is so much more than just breeding a dog and if you want to know when the right time is well take her to the vet he can tell you!!! put money away just in case of a c-section most vet's want money upfront and double that for a night c-section
than put money away for vet check and shot's and a good puppy food and
for a good calcium supplement for momma and a high quality food for momma
and buy you some good breeding books so you undertand the good and oh so
bad about whelping and than a nose sucker and clamps and all the whelping supplies than money for tails and dew claws
also remember it is summer be prepard to give up going to the lake or a vacation or outings for weeks until pupies are ready to go
you need expen and puppy pads and washing little buts and cleaning poo for weeks than vet checks to make sure you are not selling a sick pup and believe you me cleaning alot of puppy poo and little buts for at least 12 weeks can be so much fun and giving albon for days if pups get coccidia
just please rethink what you are about to do it can be very costly and
heart breaking and money to be made well i am always going in the hole.
good luck!

05-03-2008, 05:10 PM	#16
Gingergirlsmom and Bernie's mom too!" Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 6,705	You asked if this is an "easy kinda thing". Please read the links above. They are the most honest answer to your question. __________________ Get Better Soon, Susie and Tink!!!!!

05-03-2008, 05:36 PM	#18
Sunnie Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: So. California Posts: 2,736	I am sorry we cannot seem to convince you that this IS NOT an EASY thing to do. ESPECIALLY with yorkies. Do you know the cost of a c-section? Yorkies are MANY times more likely to need one. MINE DID! I also lost all 3 babies of my first litter and I had a mentor who had been breeding for 30 years. The daddy was smaller than my female which is a good idea with these little guys so they don't have babies too big for them. The babies were less than 2 ounces and I am ashamed to say I lost all 3 as they were too tiny. I read and read and studied and asked questions and was so ready for it. I had my whelping area set up just like my breeder taught me... heating pad, etc... learned how to swing a puppy so it doesn't drown in it's own fluids.. I was SO ready. AND I LOST ALL THREE!! I was devestated! I cried for myself and I cried for my mommy who cried for her babies. Are you ready for that heartache? Those babies she free whelped since they were so tiny. She had one more litter... this time the daddy was bigger and NOT the stud I had planned on. She ended up having 2 beautiful babies which I kept, but that was after $1200 for a c-section, plus $150 for x-rays, then the costs to remove dew claws, and dock the tails..... I had her spayed then because I do not want her to have to go thru that again and I love her enough that I want to enjoy her for years. I know this is not going to change your mind, but I will tell you good luck... I don't think you are going to have much luck here with anyone telling you it is the RIGHT thing to do. I feel for your baby. I just know you have no idea what you are getting into and it is a shame she doesn't have a say in it. If you love your baby so much.. why would you put her thru that when you aren't even respecting her purebred status by mixing her breed. Like someone said, there are so many MUTTS alrready.. WHY would anyone intentionally BREED to get more MUTTS?? I really am not trying to be rude and I really do wish you luck. __________________ Sonya, Owned by Ladybug, Tilly, Sunnie, Sunshine, Beamer, and Rainbow Last edited by Sunnie; 05-03-2008 at 05:40 PM.

05-03-2008, 05:54 PM	#19
sapo1009 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: MI Posts: 49	Whats wrong Just a quick question no one here likes morkies here in MI where I live I have been told that they sell the same because many dont like to deal with the papers? I have not done this but I did think about it. now I am thinking twice.

05-03-2008, 06:16 PM	#20
britt1005 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: atl ga Posts: 76	you guys make this seem so racist .. and its funny to me .. im not going to tear the whole yorkie breed up by mixing it .. thats to funny .. i am in fact going to breed her .. but my true question is when do i mate her .. i was told after she stops bleeding .. but i thought it was while she was bleeding ...... __________________ Britt And Corona!!!

05-03-2008, 07:39 PM	#24
dawglvr4life Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Central PA Posts: 106	There are enough mixed breeds in shelters and rescues that no one wants. Please don't do it. __________________ DJ Member of the Spoiled Rotten Club!

05-03-2008, 07:43 PM	#25
Chrissy0277 Its all about the yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,440	Ok striving to be a postive poster so all Im going to say is.... Ughh just what we need yet more mixed breeds in this world. Better yet from an inexperienced wannabe breeder. Go ahead breed your girl but maybe you should READ the links posted. Someone just posted today about how they just lost 2 pups that their girl just had. And this person is experienced and shes just devastated. You want you girl to have a baby of her own.. Im curious did she come out and tell you this? She isnt going to be devastated if she isnt a mommy. She may however thank you for possibly saving her life from horrible things such as a pyometria if she were spayed __________________ CHRISSY Cash Nikki Precious Lizzy Mimi , Isabelle Lena Taboo Last edited by Chrissy0277; 05-03-2008 at 07:44 PM.

05-03-2008, 10:09 PM	#26
Woogie Man YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 559	Your little girl looks adorable. From the picture you posted of her she looks too small to breed, be it to a Maltese or a Yorkie. It's not advisable to breed a female Yorkie under 5 pounds; there are too many risks in breeding the smaller females. I do hope you will take that into account in your decision making.

05-03-2008, 11:01 PM	#27
YorkieChick1 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 1,580	I don't really think anything that is rational will penetrate her brain. She is set in her ways and we just have to pray for her pup... __________________ Nanci 's her furbabies!!http://www.dogster.com/dogs/434890 Brooke Mindy BooBoo And My Chichis: Baby & Bitsy There's nothing that brightens my day more than a puppy kiss!

05-04-2008, 03:06 AM	#29
PROLINKer Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 120	Please breed her with a yorkie the least. Mixed breed has a lot of health issue that can't be researched in the internet coz they are not known breeds.

05-04-2008, 04:04 AM	#30
KYBLUE YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ky Posts: 374	ok how about i am now subfeeding a little boy every 2 hours so my life is right here at home until only god knows when do you work out side the home are you able to get up every 2 hours around the clock if not well pup won't make it or what if it is the whole litter? that you have to potty and feed and weigh etc it isnt even about mixing the breed it is about the night mare that can occur and how mentally exhausting it can be and how attached you get and still maybe loose the pup or litter please do your homework it is so much more than just breeding a dog and if you want to know when the right time is well take her to the vet he can tell you!!! put money away just in case of a c-section most vet's want money upfront and double that for a night c-section than put money away for vet check and shot's and a good puppy food and for a good calcium supplement for momma and a high quality food for momma and buy you some good breeding books so you undertand the good and oh so bad about whelping and than a nose sucker and clamps and all the whelping supplies than money for tails and dew claws also remember it is summer be prepard to give up going to the lake or a vacation or outings for weeks until pupies are ready to go you need expen and puppy pads and washing little buts and cleaning poo for weeks than vet checks to make sure you are not selling a sick pup and believe you me cleaning alot of puppy poo and little buts for at least 12 weeks can be so much fun and giving albon for days if pups get coccidia just please rethink what you are about to do it can be very costly and heart breaking and money to be made well i am always going in the hole. good luck!