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birdmanjr115 · 04-10-2008, 04:12 PM

I am expecting my female to have her first/my first litter soon (Mid-June) But I was wondering if you guys think that its practical to give a LIFETIME guarantee for congenital illnesses and a LIFETIME guarantee on life threatening genetic defects? Or should I just make them both 1 year guarantees? I want to let my clients know that I stand behind my pups 100% for their whole lives not just one year.

Nancy1999 · 04-10-2008, 04:19 PM

What would the guarantee include, would you agree to pay for required surgery or replace the pup?

birdmanjr115 · 04-10-2008, 04:48 PM

I Was Going To Offer A Full Money Back Guranatee

Nancy1999 · 04-10-2008, 04:54 PM

Would they return the pup to you or keep it?

birdmanjr115 · 04-10-2008, 05:12 PM

Keep it... as I know I would be heart broken to give my pup back.

Sugar's Mom · 04-10-2008, 05:18 PM

you need to cover yourself well. i can understand people getting attached and not wanting to give puppies back, but you have to have the wording just right so you can be sure beyond a doubt that what people are telling you is the truth and you even tho their vets can fax your vet the info, your vet may not agree. make any sense/ i guess what I am trying to say is that buyers will lie to you just to get a refund. I haven't had it happen but i know a friend that did. I'm not thinking they lied outright to get money back but what their vet said was cause of illness was totally different from what three vets of my friends said that had taken care of the puppy and went over the other vets records. vets can be wrong.. i know only one or two breeders that offer a lifetime guarantee. Most are one to two years. you can retain first refusal right on the lifetime of the dog which means if they ever decide to rehome it, they have to contact you first.

BakersDozen · 04-10-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

you need to cover yourself well. i can understand people getting attached and not wanting to give puppies back, but you have to have the wording just right so you can be sure beyond a doubt that what people are telling you is the truth and you even tho their vets can fax your vet the info, your vet may not agree. make any sense/ i guess what I am trying to say is that buyers will lie to you just to get a refund. I haven't had it happen but i know a friend that did. I'm not thinking they lied outright to get money back but what their vet said was cause of illness was totally different from what three vets of my friends said that had taken care of the puppy and went over the other vets records. vets can be wrong.. i know only one or two breeders that offer a lifetime guarantee. Most are one to two years. you can retain first refusal right on the lifetime of the dog which means if they ever decide to rehome it, they have to contact you first.

I agree. And, as a buyer, I would not expect a breeder to offer a lifetime guarantee. Not saying it wouldn't be nice

, but really hard to "enforce" fairly. For example, it could be difficult, as they age, to prove whether something was from just getting older or something genetic. I have worked in customer service for years, and unfortunately the truth is that even nice people will stretch the truth if they have an opportunity to get $ back. I just think it would be hard for the breeder to protect themselves.

However, if you want to, you could guarantee for life against specific things, named clearly in your guarantee. For your protection, seems like it would have to be EXTREMELY specific.

Just my 2 cents....

katelin · 04-11-2008, 06:23 PM

Just a little legal perspective to add:

If you sell your puppies for over $500, you need to have a written contract to avoid the Statute of Frauds. Otherwise, things could be interpreted against you or you could end up with no "contract" at all.

Then a court would be free to determine what the intent of the parties is, and it becomes a "he said/she said" situation. Most of these claims can be brought in small claims court, so it doesn't take much to get it before the court.

Finally, if you do draft a contract be very specific with the language you use and who is to be responsible for what. All of the terms will be construed "against" you and in favor of the buyer, because you drafted the contract and are presumed to be the person with the most knowledge in this situation.

I'd be careful about lifetime guarantees, personally.

04-10-2008, 04:12 PM	#1
birdmanjr115 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Baltimore Posts: 24	Please Help!!! I am expecting my female to have her first/my first litter soon (Mid-June) But I was wondering if you guys think that its practical to give a LIFETIME guarantee for congenital illnesses and a LIFETIME guarantee on life threatening genetic defects? Or should I just make them both 1 year guarantees? I want to let my clients know that I stand behind my pups 100% for their whole lives not just one year.

04-10-2008, 04:19 PM	#2
Nancy1999 Joey's Mom Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chandler, Arizona Posts: 3,709	What would the guarantee include, would you agree to pay for required surgery or replace the pup? __________________ NancyJoey . Proud members of the CrAzYcLuB and YAP Sign this Petition To Stop Teresita Hughes Cruelty! See Video Here!

04-10-2008, 04:54 PM	#4
Nancy1999 Joey's Mom Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chandler, Arizona Posts: 3,709	Would they return the pup to you or keep it? __________________ NancyJoey . Proud members of the CrAzYcLuB and YAP Sign this Petition To Stop Teresita Hughes Cruelty! See Video Here!

04-10-2008, 05:18 PM	#6
Sugar's Mom Donating YT 7000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 7,290	you need to cover yourself well. i can understand people getting attached and not wanting to give puppies back, but you have to have the wording just right so you can be sure beyond a doubt that what people are telling you is the truth and you even tho their vets can fax your vet the info, your vet may not agree. make any sense/ i guess what I am trying to say is that buyers will lie to you just to get a refund. I haven't had it happen but i know a friend that did. I'm not thinking they lied outright to get money back but what their vet said was cause of illness was totally different from what three vets of my friends said that had taken care of the puppy and went over the other vets records. vets can be wrong.. i know only one or two breeders that offer a lifetime guarantee. Most are one to two years. you can retain first refusal right on the lifetime of the dog which means if they ever decide to rehome it, they have to contact you first. __________________ www.deeslilyorkshireterriers.com

04-11-2008, 06:23 PM	#8
katelin YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,387	Just a little legal perspective to add: If you sell your puppies for over $500, you need to have a written contract to avoid the Statute of Frauds. Otherwise, things could be interpreted against you or you could end up with no "contract" at all. Then a court would be free to determine what the intent of the parties is, and it becomes a "he said/she said" situation. Most of these claims can be brought in small claims court, so it doesn't take much to get it before the court. Finally, if you do draft a contract be very specific with the language you use and who is to be responsible for what. All of the terms will be construed "against" you and in favor of the buyer, because you drafted the contract and are presumed to be the person with the most knowledge in this situation. I'd be careful about lifetime guarantees, personally. __________________ KATELIN COCO RUBY BIZZY BEEJERSEY BOY SUMATRA and LATTE ghug:

04-10-2008, 04:48 PM	#3
birdmanjr115 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Baltimore Posts: 24	I Was Going To Offer A Full Money Back Guranatee

04-10-2008, 05:12 PM	#5
birdmanjr115 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Baltimore Posts: 24	Keep it... as I know I would be heart broken to give my pup back.