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Old 05-01-2011, 02:35 PM   #1
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Confused Why are dogs 'banned' in so many places in the USA?

I wish the US was more accepting of dogs. I took my Yorkie when he was a 4 month old baby into Barnes and Noble bookstore. He was in his basket and I was carrying the basket (I did not want him to be alone) I was going to see if they had a grooming book. The manager came up to me and said " you can't bring a dog in here we serve coffee". How ridiculous is that? I can't see why that makes any difference at all. Its not like the dog was going to poop or pee and if he did he was in the basket. I can see why a store would not want badly supervised and badly behaved dogs walking around in there but why not a small (tiny) dog who is in its owners arms at all times and is not making a noise or disturbing anyone?
I love my dog so much, he is not only loved but necessary for my well being (brings me my meds, wakes me up to take them, and calms my anxiety attacks) I have not had him certified by anyone, I just don't go anywhere that might have a problem with a tiny dog like that I hate confrontation and I avoid it with a passion, also because I think those types of places don't deserve my business. I do need to take him on planes when I go for overnight trips but he needs to be on my lap, which has been fine, up till the last part of my last trip.

If anybody can help me understand what is so desperately dirty about dogs that they can't go into a place that sells food, or even just coffee. I think if the rules/laws were less draconian people would not feel inclined to call their dogs something they are not. In France and England dogs are welcome in far more establishments and we don't see people there dying of dog poisoning!
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I wish pets were more accepted places as well. I just moved out of NYC a couple of months ago and there pets can go anywhere there is not food almost, now where I lived, very few places allow dogs. It does frustrate me because I feel like I can't take my dogs out too much because I might need to run into a place that doesn't allow them.

As far as places that allow food, honestly I am glad they don't allow dogs. Most of us keep our Yorkies very clean- but I know many people with larger dogs say they hardly ever wash them, some people never bathe their dogs. I wouldn't want those kinds of dogs near my food and It would be hard to say "clean dogs only allowed!" LOL
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I too wish our little dogs were allowed in more places but do understand it's not usually the store's fault but is due to Health Dept. regulations. I find more privately owned, instead of big corporate stores are usually more accepting of our yorkies. Also, I can see that if a store allows only small dogs, the large dog owners could scream discrimination and be rightfully upset.
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And that is why I love total concealment purse carriers! It's the only way to take your pup to many places here in the States.

I wish there were more places & events to take my yorkie to. The few local places that do allow ZoE are the ones I chose to spend most of my money.
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I just don't understand what is so dirty about dogs, and , even if they are a little unwashed, how to their 'germs' get on the food in places that sell food. It is over protection to the max, totally unnecessary. I had a lovely Sunday lunch in Oxfordshire yesterday. There were five dogs with their families in the pub, a springer spaniel, a fox terrier, a Rhodesian Ridgeback, a small rough haired terrier and a golden lab. I heard no barking, so no complaining, no smells and no dogs bothering anybody. We have a lot to learn in the States.
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My honest opinion is that dogs aren't allowed in many places because

1) There are way too many irresponsible pet owners who take untrained, unclean, obnoxious, and sometimes dangerous dogs out in public.

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2) Our society is so sue happy that these "health" regulations serve to protect the owners of business establishments and even the dog owners.
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My honest opinion is that dogs aren't allowed in many places because

1) There are way too many irresponsible pet owners who take untrained, unclean, obnoxious, and sometimes dangerous dogs out in public.

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2) Our society is so sue happy that these "health" regulations serve to protect the owners of business establishments and even the dog owners.
I agree
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I guess that is true, but its sad. And sad for our best friends. I wish there were more than a few dog friendly places. Or that establishments would say dogs were allowed as long as they were carried?? Then the big scary dogs would be excluded. I know that would not be perfect but a bit better.......
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I was just thinking this the other day me and my daughter was out with our furbaby and we became a bit hungry and I couldn't think of one inviting place to go in nyc. Even tho I'm on a busy street in park slope Brooklyn and every other person is walking there dog. I even Google dog friendly resturants . Still no luck we ended up going thru McDonald's drive thru... I really dislike McDonald's too!
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My honest opinion is that dogs aren't allowed in many places because

1) There are way too many irresponsible pet owners who take untrained, unclean, obnoxious, and sometimes dangerous dogs out in public.

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2) Our society is so sue happy that these "health" regulations serve to protect the owners of business establishments and even the dog owners.

I agree, that's the reason we can't take our babies a lot of places. I just wish there were laws that prevent the many irresponsible parents who take untrained, unclean, obnoxious children out in public. And while I can't take my dogs into the restaurant for fear that they are a cleanliness hazard, it's okay for said irresponsible parents to pop the kid out of the carrier and change the diaper on the table. Been there, saw that, got up and left.
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My Rosie is cleaner than some humans. That is all I am saying!
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I wash my stinka all the time especially since the weather Is nicer. I call him stinka tho LOL.. he does have his dog breath that's why stinka is his nick name
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My honest opinion is that dogs aren't allowed in many places because

1) There are way too many irresponsible pet owners who take untrained, unclean, obnoxious, and sometimes dangerous dogs out in public.

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2) Our society is so sue happy that these "health" regulations serve to protect the owners of business establishments and even the dog owners.


Maryland is trying to pass it so you can take your dog into a restaurant that has outside dining. Yay!

I was at Lowes one day and was told by the garden center cashier that I shouldn't go inside because dogs were not allowed. I've had mine in there at times...I could understand this rule as I could see some burly construction guys bringing in their labs or other big dogs. Sometimes a dog will have an accident so I understand the philosophy behind the rule.

And I guess it also depends on who is working.
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I agree, that's the reason we can't take our babies a lot of places. I just wish there were laws that prevent the many irresponsible parents who take untrained, unclean, obnoxious children out in public. And while I can't take my dogs into the restaurant for fear that they are a cleanliness hazard, it's okay for said irresponsible parents to pop the kid out of the carrier and change the diaper on the table. Been there, saw that, got up and left.
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