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rustilee · 04-14-2005, 12:29 PM

ACA registered, 1yr old 3lbs. Babydoll face -can send pics - I will not ship my babies. Have a ACA 3lb female also. They are beautiful! I live in Petersburg, Indiana.

StewiesMom · 04-14-2005, 12:32 PM

what is aca?

kp&nala · 04-14-2005, 12:39 PM

i was wondering the same thing. how much?

rustilee · 04-14-2005, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StewiesMom

what is aca?

American Canine Assoc. = ACA

rustilee · 04-14-2005, 01:06 PM

I haven't figured out how to respond to this so bare with me. I'm asking 1,200.00 for the male and 600.00 for the female. She has had a c-section, I think.

StewiesMom · 04-14-2005, 01:09 PM

Wow. That's a little too far out of my price range considering what I paid for the pup I have now. Good luck finding a home for them. I'm sure Sue (see below) can provide a good one

ssguzzy828 · 04-14-2005, 01:12 PM

why would someone have bred a 3# female? Poor thing and to have had a c-section. Can you send me pics of her I would love to make sure she is not used for breeding again. I am already awaiting a female so maybe this one could be her playmate. thanks

sue

P.s I am located in illinois so would not have to ship. My email is ssguzzy828@comcast.net

yorkipower · 04-14-2005, 01:27 PM

This is from the "About Boxers" Website by Jeanne Hale. Read through the whole thing and it will answers some questions (I hope) I've had to truncate it because of the size of the document. I don't agree with what they say about the UKC (I know it is as the United Kennel Club. Overall, I don't think UKC is all that bad). Anyhow, the original text is here:

http://members.tripod.com/~Moosewood/registries.html

There are many registries for dogs, and it can get pretty confusing. Puppy buyers often think they're getting something special when they're not, and they can pay a high price for it. Some registries seem to be out for a fast buck from ignorant puppy buyers and breeders. They will register dogs for breeders who have been suspended from other registries (usually for record keeping violations), or will register dogs that other registries won't (mixed breeds, unknown pedigree). Some registries will allow the registration of mixed breeds, sometimes called "new rare breeds", for breeding purposes. Puppy buyers are sometimes fooled into paying pay hundreds of dollars for a "registered" mutt. Being a registered mutt does not make a dog any different from a similar one sitting in a shelter, and it certainly make a mutt into a purebred. If your dog is registered with anything other than AKC, United Kennel Club or the Canadian Kennel Club, the chances of your pup being bred by an irresponsible breeder rises dramatically.

The oldest and most recognized purebred dog registries in North America are AKC (American Kennel Club) CKC (Canadian Kennel Club) and UKC (United Kennel Club). In addition, some breed clubs also have their own registries, such as Australian Shepard (ASCA). Some breeds are not recognized by the American Kennel Club. You should research the registries for these breeds and be sure that the litter is properly certified as purebred. For example, some breeds in the United States are registered by the United Kennel Club. The UKC is a well-respected registry for many rare breeds as well as those recognized by the AKC. If you are shopping for a breed not recognized by the AKC, do your homework and find out which breed registries are commonly used by respected breeders.

The American Kennel Club:

• Records the parentage of over one million dogs annually, but is not itself involved in the sale of dogs and cannot therefore guarantee the health and quality of dogs in its registry.

• Sponsors more than 15,000 dog competitions each year held by licensed and member clubs. Only dog clubs may be AKC members.

• Supports and promotes the sport of purebred dogs.

The Canadian Kennel club is the purebred registry for Canada, and similar to the AKC. From the Canadian Kennel Club’s Code of Ethics:
THE CANADIAN KENNEL CLUB IS INCORPORATED UNDER THE ANIMAL PEDIGREE ACT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REGISTRATION, PRESERVATION AND PROMOTION OF ALL CKC RECOGNIZED BREEDS OF DOGS IN CANADA.
THE CANADIAN KENNEL CLUB IS A NATIONAL MEMBERSHIP ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING PUREBRED DOG ACTIVITIES. THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE CANADIAN KENNEL CLUB IS ELECTED FROM THE MEMBERSHIP REPRESENTING THEIR REGIONAL ZONES AND IS RESPONSIBLE TO THAT MEMBERSHIP.
EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN THE BY-LAWS OF THE CANADIAN KENNEL CLUB, ALL MEMBERS AS BREEDERS OF PUREBRED DOGS, WILL INCLUDE IN THEIR PROGRAMS, ONLY CANADIAN KENNEL CLUB REGISTERED (OR REGISTERABLE) STOCK WHICH WILL STRENGTHEN THE GENETIC POOL AND, THUS, GUARANTEE FURTHER PROGRESSION TOWARD THE IDEALS OF THE STANDARD, KEEPING AUTHENTIC RECORDS OF THEIR ACTIVITIES.

There are many registries, organizations and 'networks' popping up all over the internet. A good rule of thumb when trying to evaluate the validity and integrity of any organization is to examine their purpose (i.e., mission/goals) and to also investigate their standards and practices, making sure that you VERIFY the information they present. A breeder whose puppies are registered with any of the following "alternative" registries is not a breeder you want to deal with. Most of these registries were begun in response to the AKC’s Frequently Used Sires Requirement and inspections of large kennels producing more than 7 litters in a year for AKC and 10 litters for UKC. This requirement has resulted in the litters of many puppy mills and backyard breeders being turned down by AKC because the breeders refused to positively identify the father of the litter through a DNA test. Many others are boycotting AKC because complying with this requirement costs money. A responsible breeder with a male who is used often enough to fall under this requirement, will not object to having their dog DNA certified and paying the fee. Dogs not registered with AKC cannot compete in AKC dog shows in comformation. They may compete in performance events if spayed or neutered and issued an AKC ILP number.
Since DNA became available for identifying the lineage of dogs, AKC has begun to do random DNA testing when inspecting kennels. In Missouri, where 1/3 of the country's puppies are produced, DNA testing and AKC inspections are resulting in an alarming number of suspensions. In July of 2000, AKC began a mandatory DNA requirement on all frequently used sires (male dogs producing more than 3 litters in a year or 7 litters in a lifetime). This sent the commercial breeders into a frenzy and many decided to boycott AKC. Of course, they are still going to sell 'registered puppies', so what are they left with? Here are some of the alternative registries, with whom anyone at all can register a dog regardless of its parentage as long as you pay the fee. Many *register* mixed breeds and require no proof of parentage and are promoters of the commercial breeder and puppy reseller (broker to pet stores). Please note that some of the registries have similar or the same initials as the older and well established registries. This can cause confusion for consumers. Don't be fooled.

ACA - American Canine Association Advertises that over 3000 adult breeding canines are registered each week. Only registry endorsed by Petland. **Caters to commercial breeders.** Refers puppy seekers to pet stores.

APRI - AMERICA'S PET REGISTRY INC. Advertises free registration for commercial breeders. Non Profit 'dedicated to the preservation of the professional pet industry', dogs and cats. Founded by retailers of pets (commercial breeders and resellers).

CKC-Continental Kennel Club (do not confuse with Canadian Kennel Club!)
CKC will recognize a cross between any two purebred dogs, and will issue a registration certificate on their offspring. These crosses are not registered as purebred dogs but are registered as the offspring of purebred dogs. CKC accepts no responsibility for any inaccurate, false, or fraudulent information submitted on registration applications. They sponsor no shows or championships. They also give big fee breaks to large kennels registering lots of dogs (such as Puppy Mills). Will register dogs not registered with other recognized registries.

UKCI - Universal Kennel Club International Caters to the commercial dog industry and promises 'Complete Privacy Protection' for all breeders. Does not have a Code Of Ethics and brags about that. Does not currently impose any fines or penalties upon its members for violations of its policies, rules, regulations, guidelines, programs, restrictions and systems. * Registers* mixed breeds for breeding purposes. Will register unknown pedigree. NAPDR - North American Purebred Dog Registry Dog that does not have registration papers or proof of pedigree may be registered with NAPDR

DRA - Dog Registry of America No DNA certification, registers unregistered/unknown/mixed pedigree dogs, brags about added value for sellers and confidentiality.

APR - American Purebred Registry Will register unknown pedigree dogs/cats, does not sponsor any shows, no proof of purebred required.

UABR - United All Breed Registry Advertises free registration of adults when you register a litter. Caters to the commercial breeders. Started "Gold Label Pets" for commercial operations, and promotes retailers.

WWKC - World Wide Kennel Club Will register dogs registered with *any other* kennel club

WKC- World Kennel Club Registers ALL dogs that are *pure-bred*, which may or may not be registered with any other kennel club or those that have no previous history of their Sire or Dam.

FIC - Federation of International Canines Special bulk discount for volume breeders

ARU- Animal Registry Unlimited Guarantees they will register your pets of unknown pedigree, encourages cross breeding. Special prices for bulk.

CRCS - Canine Registration and Certification Services Caters to commercial breeders.

NKC – National Kennel Club Appears to registered unknown pedigree dogs with *inspection*.

Finally, USDA registered puppies come from commercial breeding farms, commonly referred to as puppy mills. Mills sell to stores and brokers, and this is commonly where pet store owners get their puppies. No breeder associated with a breed club and bound by a breeder’s club Code of Ethics will sell or consign a pup (or kitten) to a commercial pet store.

References:

American Kennel Club

AKC Frequently Used Sires Requirement

Canadian Kennel Club

No Puppy Mills

Pet Scoop: article on puppy mills

Back to About Boxers

kp&nala · 04-14-2005, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssguzzy828

why would someone have bred a 3# female? Poor thing and to have had a c-section. Can you send me pics of her I would love to make sure she is not used for breeding again. I am already awaiting a female so maybe this one could be her playmate. thanks

sue

P.s I am located in illinois so would not have to ship. My email is ssguzzy828@comcast.net

good for you!! i agree that's not right to breed a 3lbs female.if i had the money and my own house i would take her.

ssguzzy828 · 04-14-2005, 07:21 PM

Thanks k.p

. Stewies mom thanks for saying I would give a good home. wasnt planning on adding yet one more this soon but I just feel so bad for the female. we'll see if they get back to me as of yet no message

.
sue

PlatinumYorkies · 04-14-2005, 08:23 PM

Well, Sue she isn't even her pup she traded her with some dude, she isn't vet checked or nothing. She is trying to trade both of them now...for an AKC yorkiw....Go to http://yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4190... ARRGGH!!

ssguzzy828 · 04-14-2005, 09:36 PM

I just feel bad cause if she truly cared for that female why does she mention that she is coming into heat. UGH that kills me!!!!!! Did she not say no one cares for those yorkies more than her. Hmmmm then why not get her fixed so no one would breed her again. Just mentioning shes coming into heat and the poor lil thing already having had a c section. Why?

. All I know is I truly believe what comes around goes around and I assure you it does. I know she is not vet checked but I guess that it's just the protecter of the underdog coming out in me. I always want to do the right thing even when I know it sometimes comes back and bites me in the butt.

sue

PlatinumYorkies · 04-14-2005, 09:42 PM

I think you have a good heart and that you are trying to do the right thing...

ssguzzy828 · 04-14-2005, 10:45 PM

awww thanks platinum that means a lot. I truly am tring to do the right thing just like when I wanted to buy that lil girl in the pet shop. Just hate to see an animal in need.

rustilee · 04-15-2005, 12:05 AM

Maybe some of you have just pets, but if you breed yorkies don't try to tell me you don't try to make money. I will never believe that crap. I have five beautiful girls who love me and I love them, but I do try to make money on a litter from them. I don't harm the breed, they are perfect. That's all I ever have to say to the likes of this group before I block you from my email.

04-14-2005, 12:29 PM	#1
rustilee YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 7	3lb yorkie male ACA registered, 1yr old 3lbs. Babydoll face -can send pics - I will not ship my babies. Have a ACA 3lb female also. They are beautiful! I live in Petersburg, Indiana.

04-14-2005, 12:32 PM	#2
StewiesMom Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,306	what is aca? __________________ Kristy & Stewie

04-14-2005, 01:06 PM	#5
rustilee YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 7	3lb yorkie I haven't figured out how to respond to this so bare with me. I'm asking 1,200.00 for the male and 600.00 for the female. She has had a c-section, I think.

04-14-2005, 01:09 PM	#6
StewiesMom Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,306	Wow. That's a little too far out of my price range considering what I paid for the pup I have now. Good luck finding a home for them. I'm sure Sue (see below) can provide a good one __________________ Kristy & Stewie Last edited by StewiesMom; 04-14-2005 at 01:15 PM.

04-14-2005, 01:27 PM	#8
yorkipower BANNED! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New York Posts: 446	about ACA and others (from the interent) This is from the "About Boxers" Website by Jeanne Hale. Read through the whole thing and it will answers some questions (I hope) I've had to truncate it because of the size of the document. I don't agree with what they say about the UKC (I know it is as the United Kennel Club. Overall, I don't think UKC is all that bad). Anyhow, the original text is here: http://members.tripod.com/~Moosewood/registries.html There are many registries for dogs, and it can get pretty confusing. Puppy buyers often think they're getting something special when they're not, and they can pay a high price for it. Some registries seem to be out for a fast buck from ignorant puppy buyers and breeders. They will register dogs for breeders who have been suspended from other registries (usually for record keeping violations), or will register dogs that other registries won't (mixed breeds, unknown pedigree). Some registries will allow the registration of mixed breeds, sometimes called "new rare breeds", for breeding purposes. Puppy buyers are sometimes fooled into paying pay hundreds of dollars for a "registered" mutt. Being a registered mutt does not make a dog any different from a similar one sitting in a shelter, and it certainly make a mutt into a purebred. If your dog is registered with anything other than AKC, United Kennel Club or the Canadian Kennel Club, the chances of your pup being bred by an irresponsible breeder rises dramatically. The oldest and most recognized purebred dog registries in North America are AKC (American Kennel Club) CKC (Canadian Kennel Club) and UKC (United Kennel Club). In addition, some breed clubs also have their own registries, such as Australian Shepard (ASCA). Some breeds are not recognized by the American Kennel Club. You should research the registries for these breeds and be sure that the litter is properly certified as purebred. For example, some breeds in the United States are registered by the United Kennel Club. The UKC is a well-respected registry for many rare breeds as well as those recognized by the AKC. If you are shopping for a breed not recognized by the AKC, do your homework and find out which breed registries are commonly used by respected breeders. The American Kennel Club: • Records the parentage of over one million dogs annually, but is not itself involved in the sale of dogs and cannot therefore guarantee the health and quality of dogs in its registry. • Sponsors more than 15,000 dog competitions each year held by licensed and member clubs. Only dog clubs may be AKC members. • Supports and promotes the sport of purebred dogs. The Canadian Kennel club is the purebred registry for Canada, and similar to the AKC. From the Canadian Kennel Club’s Code of Ethics: THE CANADIAN KENNEL CLUB IS INCORPORATED UNDER THE ANIMAL PEDIGREE ACT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REGISTRATION, PRESERVATION AND PROMOTION OF ALL CKC RECOGNIZED BREEDS OF DOGS IN CANADA. THE CANADIAN KENNEL CLUB IS A NATIONAL MEMBERSHIP ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING PUREBRED DOG ACTIVITIES. THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE CANADIAN KENNEL CLUB IS ELECTED FROM THE MEMBERSHIP REPRESENTING THEIR REGIONAL ZONES AND IS RESPONSIBLE TO THAT MEMBERSHIP. EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN THE BY-LAWS OF THE CANADIAN KENNEL CLUB, ALL MEMBERS AS BREEDERS OF PUREBRED DOGS, WILL INCLUDE IN THEIR PROGRAMS, ONLY CANADIAN KENNEL CLUB REGISTERED (OR REGISTERABLE) STOCK WHICH WILL STRENGTHEN THE GENETIC POOL AND, THUS, GUARANTEE FURTHER PROGRESSION TOWARD THE IDEALS OF THE STANDARD, KEEPING AUTHENTIC RECORDS OF THEIR ACTIVITIES. There are many registries, organizations and 'networks' popping up all over the internet. A good rule of thumb when trying to evaluate the validity and integrity of any organization is to examine their purpose (i.e., mission/goals) and to also investigate their standards and practices, making sure that you VERIFY the information they present. A breeder whose puppies are registered with any of the following "alternative" registries is not a breeder you want to deal with. Most of these registries were begun in response to the AKC’s Frequently Used Sires Requirement and inspections of large kennels producing more than 7 litters in a year for AKC and 10 litters for UKC. This requirement has resulted in the litters of many puppy mills and backyard breeders being turned down by AKC because the breeders refused to positively identify the father of the litter through a DNA test. Many others are boycotting AKC because complying with this requirement costs money. A responsible breeder with a male who is used often enough to fall under this requirement, will not object to having their dog DNA certified and paying the fee. Dogs not registered with AKC cannot compete in AKC dog shows in comformation. They may compete in performance events if spayed or neutered and issued an AKC ILP number. Since DNA became available for identifying the lineage of dogs, AKC has begun to do random DNA testing when inspecting kennels. In Missouri, where 1/3 of the country's puppies are produced, DNA testing and AKC inspections are resulting in an alarming number of suspensions. In July of 2000, AKC began a mandatory DNA requirement on all frequently used sires (male dogs producing more than 3 litters in a year or 7 litters in a lifetime). This sent the commercial breeders into a frenzy and many decided to boycott AKC. Of course, they are still going to sell 'registered puppies', so what are they left with? Here are some of the alternative registries, with whom anyone at all can register a dog regardless of its parentage as long as you pay the fee. Many register mixed breeds and require no proof of parentage and are promoters of the commercial breeder and puppy reseller (broker to pet stores). Please note that some of the registries have similar or the same initials as the older and well established registries. This can cause confusion for consumers. Don't be fooled. ACA - American Canine Association Advertises that over 3000 adult breeding canines are registered each week. Only registry endorsed by Petland. Caters to commercial breeders. Refers puppy seekers to pet stores. APRI - AMERICA'S PET REGISTRY INC. Advertises free registration for commercial breeders. Non Profit 'dedicated to the preservation of the professional pet industry', dogs and cats. Founded by retailers of pets (commercial breeders and resellers). CKC-Continental Kennel Club (do not confuse with Canadian Kennel Club!) CKC will recognize a cross between any two purebred dogs, and will issue a registration certificate on their offspring. These crosses are not registered as purebred dogs but are registered as the offspring of purebred dogs. CKC accepts no responsibility for any inaccurate, false, or fraudulent information submitted on registration applications. They sponsor no shows or championships. They also give big fee breaks to large kennels registering lots of dogs (such as Puppy Mills). Will register dogs not registered with other recognized registries. UKCI - Universal Kennel Club International Caters to the commercial dog industry and promises 'Complete Privacy Protection' for all breeders. Does not have a Code Of Ethics and brags about that. Does not currently impose any fines or penalties upon its members for violations of its policies, rules, regulations, guidelines, programs, restrictions and systems. * Registers* mixed breeds for breeding purposes. Will register unknown pedigree. NAPDR - North American Purebred Dog Registry Dog that does not have registration papers or proof of pedigree may be registered with NAPDR DRA - Dog Registry of America No DNA certification, registers unregistered/unknown/mixed pedigree dogs, brags about added value for sellers and confidentiality. APR - American Purebred Registry Will register unknown pedigree dogs/cats, does not sponsor any shows, no proof of purebred required. UABR - United All Breed Registry Advertises free registration of adults when you register a litter. Caters to the commercial breeders. Started "Gold Label Pets" for commercial operations, and promotes retailers. WWKC - World Wide Kennel Club Will register dogs registered with any other kennel club WKC- World Kennel Club Registers ALL dogs that are pure-bred, which may or may not be registered with any other kennel club or those that have no previous history of their Sire or Dam. FIC - Federation of International Canines Special bulk discount for volume breeders ARU- Animal Registry Unlimited Guarantees they will register your pets of unknown pedigree, encourages cross breeding. Special prices for bulk. CRCS - Canine Registration and Certification Services Caters to commercial breeders. NKC – National Kennel Club Appears to registered unknown pedigree dogs with inspection. Finally, USDA registered puppies come from commercial breeding farms, commonly referred to as puppy mills. Mills sell to stores and brokers, and this is commonly where pet store owners get their puppies. No breeder associated with a breed club and bound by a breeder’s club Code of Ethics will sell or consign a pup (or kitten) to a commercial pet store. References: American Kennel Club AKC Frequently Used Sires Requirement Canadian Kennel Club No Puppy Mills Pet Scoop: article on puppy mills Back to About Boxers

04-14-2005, 12:39 PM	#3
kp&nala Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 972	i was wondering the same thing. how much?

04-14-2005, 01:12 PM	#7
ssguzzy828 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: south suburbs of illinois Posts: 734	why would someone have bred a 3# female? Poor thing and to have had a c-section. Can you send me pics of her I would love to make sure she is not used for breeding again. I am already awaiting a female so maybe this one could be her playmate. thanks sue P.s I am located in illinois so would not have to ship. My email is ssguzzy828@comcast.net

04-14-2005, 07:21 PM	#10
ssguzzy828 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: south suburbs of illinois Posts: 734	Thanks k.p . Stewies mom thanks for saying I would give a good home. wasnt planning on adding yet one more this soon but I just feel so bad for the female. we'll see if they get back to me as of yet no message . sue

04-14-2005, 08:23 PM	#11
PlatinumYorkies Monte, Mone't's Joy! Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MD Posts: 3,009	Well, Sue she isn't even her pup she traded her with some dude, she isn't vet checked or nothing. She is trying to trade both of them now...for an AKC yorkiw....Go to http://yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4190... ARRGGH!! __________________ "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."!! **Mone't Mom 2 Monte** Last edited by PlatinumYorkies; 04-14-2005 at 08:26 PM.

04-14-2005, 09:36 PM	#12
ssguzzy828 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: south suburbs of illinois Posts: 734	I just feel bad cause if she truly cared for that female why does she mention that she is coming into heat. UGH that kills me!!!!!! Did she not say no one cares for those yorkies more than her. Hmmmm then why not get her fixed so no one would breed her again. Just mentioning shes coming into heat and the poor lil thing already having had a c section. Why? . All I know is I truly believe what comes around goes around and I assure you it does. I know she is not vet checked but I guess that it's just the protecter of the underdog coming out in me. I always want to do the right thing even when I know it sometimes comes back and bites me in the butt. sue

04-14-2005, 09:42 PM	#13
PlatinumYorkies Monte, Mone't's Joy! Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MD Posts: 3,009	I think you have a good heart and that you are trying to do the right thing... __________________ "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."!! **Mone't Mom 2 Monte**

04-14-2005, 10:45 PM	#14
ssguzzy828 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: south suburbs of illinois Posts: 734	awww thanks platinum that means a lot. I truly am tring to do the right thing just like when I wanted to buy that lil girl in the pet shop. Just hate to see an animal in need.

04-15-2005, 12:05 AM	#15
rustilee YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 7	Maybe some of you have just pets, but if you breed yorkies don't try to tell me you don't try to make money. I will never believe that crap. I have five beautiful girls who love me and I love them, but I do try to make money on a litter from them. I don't harm the breed, they are perfect. That's all I ever have to say to the likes of this group before I block you from my email.