I'm looking for an AKC male Parti Yorkie in Oceanside CA area

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by Teresamag

I did the same search both on YT and on the internet and came up with the same sites. I'm just researching and NOT defending anyone - but doesn't it look like one person who was very unhappy with this breeder has posted her side of the story in several places?

It's very hard to tell but I have been able to find only one or two people who will post publicly anywhere that they are unhappy with Loryn and why - these links seem to be these same people. I wish people would post what they know personally not what someone else told them or what they heard. It does appear this breeder has replaced or promised to replace any defective dogs. Even the affected person has posted that Loryn has made it right with her. Isn't that what we always ask of breeders?

With that said, I have had a couple of PM's/emails from people who do not want to post publicly. From what I have been told (again hearsay) this is not a breeder I would be comfortable recommending any longer. I do not personally "know" this breeder nor have I been to her home but I will not recommend her any longer. Please do your own research and make your own conclusions.

As with any breeder please check their references, talk with their vet if possible, do a web search, view their written guarantee before purchase, etc. To the OP, good luck in your puppy search.

Teresa

That is quite the reversal and a commend you for speaking up. The reason that members do not speak up is because those with a voice are attacked into submission. Those of us that do not submit are called bullies and thugs. It takes a very strong person to stand up for what they believe and most people would rather chalk it up as a lesson learned that to take a beating. At least that is my life experience.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

That is quite the reversal and a commend you for speaking up. The reason that members do not speak up is because those with a voice are attacked into submission. Those of us that do not submit are called bullies and thugs. It takes a very strong person to stand up for what they believe and most people would rather chalk it up as a lesson learned that to take a beating. At least that is my life experience.

I agree Jodi, but there is another reason people don't speak up in public, threats of suing are all too common anymore. Not only that, but if a breeder has been found to be selling sickly dogs, people who are breeding the offspring do not want to complain, because after all, their dogs are related. This happens way too much. It's a wonder, any truth gets out.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I agree Jodi, but there is another reason people don't speak up in public, threats of suing are all too common anymore. Not only that, but if a breeder has been found to be selling sickly dogs, people who are breeding the offspring do not want to complain, because after all, their dogs are related. This happens way too much. It's a wonder, any truth gets out.

The word lawsuit is tossed around a little too much for my liking regarding some breeders. I've see it so many time recently and by the same members too. When things are put out onto the internet they are for all to see. I guess the lesson learned to represent your breeding practices will, stand behind what you sell, breed out of ethics and not the need to put food on your table. If you follow these simple guidelines there shouldn't be any issues. But when you don't there is always the risk that some even if it is a minority will talk. With the internet and Google at everyone's fingertips more and more bad breeders will begin to be exposed. The only thing that will prevent being exposed as a bad breeder is to elevate your breeding practices to a high level and stand behind what you breed.

[Sweet T]

See my avatar, I got hairy Harry (AKA Sir Erik Weisz) from Loren Bogren who is the owner of Crownridge Gems. Thank you Yorkie Talk, for helping me find her! She is a breeder in Bonsall CA not far from Fallbrook (less than an hour from Oceanside/Camp Pendleton area) and her home is immaculate. The dogs were all hanging out in the house, being treated like family pets, and the home and yard were very well kept.

I recommend her, and if you want to chat I'll be glad to do it openly on this forum or via PM. I've taken some pics of Harry and myself together and will upload to my photo album in a couple minutes.

Regarding Von Ward Kennels, that website is my cousin's site. She lives in Campo, CA near Lake Morena and she is indeed an excellent German Shepherd Breeder. I am the webmaster, I host and maintain that site for her.

[pmwildcherryss]

OK I have not been on here in a long time said 10/10 was my last logon date. Someone has made a claim that I'm bashing Loryn@ Crownridges dogs. This is untrue facts. Long ago I did post some facts about my problems I had. Everyone was Freaked out and said Balls of Steel or what You posted sbout Loryn are you crazzy. Well here is the way it is. I'm a very small hobby breeder in Fl. my Name is Phyllis Rumpza 407-282-0391 Florida. I have 2 Crownridge dogs that I breed thats it other 1 is a pet fixed. I sold all the rest as pets.If I have something to say I do it. Sorry thats just me. I donot stand for lies and all the other crap that comes along.Please if you post use your real name. I have now been told I'm "Monico Mania " Sorry not me. I'm pmwildcherryss or just Phyllis Rumpza. Please note if I posted it I do not lie and I will make sure to leave my name so everyone knows it was me. I do not live on money from dogs and I do what I do because I Love them and want to share the pretty furry kids with other loving family like mine. Are dogs are cage free and Loved on all day and night. lap Kids. Thank you all Bless the Yorkies and your Family. ; )

[pmwildcherryss]

Originally Posted by MonicoMania

OMG shall we bow down to her.
Just take a look at the number of blue and unhealthy pups that have come from her and her line. You have got to be kidding!!!!!!!!!!!

I personaly have had 2 blue born pups from this line. both sire (Flit) and dame my CALI were from there. How ever I do want to add this is not my post taday is he first time i have been on here in almost 6 months or more. if i post it i will make sure my name is on it. Monico Mania I do not know you but please let us know who you are so we do not let everyone think you are me . I guess all Loryn's followers think I'm posting this. and from the e mail I got they all have there panties in a knot over it. And PS all If I post it it's the TRUTH. I hate liers, scammers, players. I just love Dogs here. Thats all. And I care where they sleep what they eat and that they are kept up on all there needs. 24/7. And we also Love are 15 year old Man Pooh Bear. Still living with us and doing Great at 15. Thank you all. May God Richley Bless you and you family and Furry Children To. Phyllis Rumpza pmwildcherryss

[Sweet T]

I don't mean to stir what is clearly old, bad blood, but what does "blue" mean?

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Sweet T

I don't mean to stir what is clearly old, bad blood, but what does "blue" mean?

Blue born is different than the "blue" used to describe an adult Yorkie's coat color. This site has pictures: Goldenray Genetics Chocolate Yorkies Red Golden or Yorkie Blue Borns

Blue borns often look grey when born instead of black, and may have serious health problems. Here's a thread that tells more about blue born. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...e-puppies.html

[Teresamag]

Originally Posted by Sweet T

I don't mean to stir what is clearly old, bad blood, but what does "blue" mean?

Here is a link to a picture showing what a "blue born" Yorkie puppy looks like...
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...puppies-9.html

and here is a link to a pictures of an adult with this condition.
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...uppies-11.html

Teresa

[pmwildcherryss]

Originally Posted by Sweet T

I don't mean to stir what is clearly old, bad blood, but what does "blue" mean?

the blue pups I had we only 2 males both are grown now with full caots and pretty I will post a pic. They just have a diff color coat maybe a tiny bit thinner then most. I have heard of this in many places not just the ones I had. I also seem to think there is someone that breed them because of the color. And this happened from breeding the same line together to close I think. Outcross and I bet it will not happen again. Like I said before I'm a small time breeder here and no comp. for the rest of you. but I do like to learn more info on it and the rest. maybe to help another down the road. i bread the same sire to my other 2 fm's from the same breeder and had the most Awsome pups ever : )

[pmwildcherryss]

Originally Posted by MonicoMania

I have my info from a person that has been to her house over and over again.

Just watch puppy find and see those who are advertising Blue puppies for sale.
CR also breeds a female that has 3 legs over and over again. SAD
CR had a female that had legg Perthes, she had her operated on then bred her.
CR had the Humane society called on her and they spent 2 days there and all but a few of her dogs have been moved to Vals house. L only has a few mothers and pups at her house now. Wonder why????????
These are facts, not lies .
BTW heres a thread which later this person was bought off by L
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...i-allison.html

so when i go to this post link it go's right to me. LETS GET THIS RIGHT. I WAS NEVER PAID OR GIVEN ANY KIND OF BUY OFF. LOL THIS IS TO FUNNY. NOW I KNOW WHO YOU ARE THAT POSTED THIS JUST BY THE WORDS ON HERE. IT WAS LIKE I HEARD IT FROM THE POSTING MONICA'S VOICE MY SELF. I LOVE MY DOGS FROM LORYN SO GET OVER IT. PLEASE NOTE ALSO I HAVE PUPR FROM MY FM'S FROM CROWNRIDGE 3 ARE BEING SHOWN AND ARE TOP OF THE LINE A +++ DOGS. I WAS PISTED OFF WHEN I SAID SOME CRAP LONG AGO. WISH I COULD DELETE IT ALL OFF THIS SITE. AND OTHER SITE I POSTED ON. I HAVE WAY MOVED ON FROM IT ALL. AND YOU SHOULD TO. THANK YOU , PHYLLIS RUMPZA OWNER OF SOME REALLY GREAT CROWNRIDGE DOGS.